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Ten Things that Nokia Did Right in making the 5800 XpressMusic

Published by Steve Litchfield at 8:58 UTC, March 8th 2009

Having spent an entire feature slamming Touch in general and perhaps the Nokia 5800 XpressMusic in particular, I think it's only fair to give Nokia some credit and balance the equation with a breakdown of Ten Things that Nokia Did Right in the 5800, things which they didn't have to do but which impressed me nevertheless. Are these ten plus points below enough to make the 5800 XpressMusic a must-buy? Maybe, maybe not, but their very existence speaks well of Nokia, of the 5800 and of sister devices to follow. Let's get started.

 

1. Elegant full-screen use

Harking back yet again to Steve Jobs' claim at the iPhone's launch that existing designs used 'too much plastic', referring to the waste of frontal area by using a d-pad or qwerty thumb keyboard, it's clear that, real world misgivings aside, there is a lot to be said for a screen that occupies the maximum possible area, with control elements displayed as needed, according to whether you're entering text, playing a game, browsing the web or watching a video, etc. The Nokia 5800 is firmly in this camp and pulls off the trick remarkably well, considering that its firmware isn't very mature yet - it can only improve further in this regard.

Nokia 5800 XpressMusic detail

2. Decent battery

With many recent Nokia smartphone designs blighted by an underspecified battery (cough, N82, N95, N96, E75), it's great to have 1320 mAh under the hood. Admittedly with the display set on maximum brightness and with a lot of video podcast/iPlayer watching [maybe that's just me!], the battery still isn't going to last for days, but for average phone/music/text use the 5800 should comfortably last the distance.

Nokia 5800 XpressMusic detail

3. Carl Zeiss lens

Again, a welcome design choice here. For such a 'budget' smartphone (it's not even in the Nseries range), to have decent optics makes a significant difference.  Reviews which slam the 5800 XpressMusic as having a 'weak' camera haven't taken the time to understand why shots sometimes go wrong. The problem is that the aperture and sensor sizes are small (probably dictated by the build cost and by the amount of depth allowed in the casing), so photos and videos taken indoors and in the evening are very disappointing, with huge amounts of digital noise. BUT. Take photos and videos outdoors and especially in sunlight, and the 5800's camera with those Carl Zeiss optics can produce results that rival those from the all conquering N95. See here for proof.

Nokia 5800 XpressMusic detail

4. Media key

This feature took a while to grow on me. It's no secret that I wasn't fond of the 'multimedia' key on the N95, N82 and just about every Nseries phone since - the carousel menu took just too many keypresses to do anything useful and it was always easier to use the standard S60 menu (I see Nokia has started to drop this key from newer models like the N86 8MP, so maybe they've finally heeded my words). The 5800 XpressMusic doesn't have any hardware music controls, so something's obviously needed though - the touch 'media' key fills the function neatly by helping you get quickly to Music player in two taps from anywhere in the 5800's interface. A long press on the 'key' to go straight to Music Player would have been even nicer - maybe in the next firmware, Nokia?

Nokia 5800 XpressMusic detail

5. Keyguard

Most PDAs since the dawn of time have had an on/off button (though of course off isn't actually 'off'), the idea obviously being that you don't want the screen and keys getting pressed in your pocket. Phones have an equivalent that normally involves a two keypress system (e.g. left function and then *), but the modern trend in Nokia's most recent devices of having a keyguard 'toggle' is much, much easier to use and much easier to remember. Another good design choice on the 5800, Nokia.

Nokia 5800 XpressMusic detail

6. Haptic feedback

With phones usually sporting a vibrator for alerting you when in 'silent' mode, it was natural that this system would be used when touch finally hit phones and Nokia has implemented a generic 'wobble the phone when a screen tap is registered' system. It's not unique to the 5800 XpressMusic but it's good to see here - on the AAS team, Rafe and I are big fans of it [Ewan's not so sure and has turned it off!] When typing on the full-screen qwerty keyboard, having mechanical ('haptic') feedback is an essential step in making sure that 'key' presses are all registered properly. Yes, the 5800 could still do with a truck load of iPhone-style spelling and writing aids, but we'll again have to leave this one for future firmware...

Nokia 5800 XpressMusic detail

7. Mature OS and subsystems

Now, don't confuse this with me saying that "the 5800's firmware is immature" - it is, very much so, and there are many firmware tweaks and bug-fixes needed before the 5800 can be pronounced to be 'finished'. However, the fact that it runs S60 5th Edition means that it's building on every previous version, every previous Feature Pack, every previous codec and library addition. This isn't immediately apparent until you start comparing a S60 5th Edition phone with something like the Apple iPhone or Palm Pre or the Android-powered G1. In each case, these much newer 'built recently' platforms appear to be 'all there' (they certainly have lots of eye candy) but when you need something detailed, such as adding a phone number from your call log to a specific field in an existing contact or sending a Note to someone else's phone using Bluetooth (to pick just two everyday examples that can't be done on some newer competitors) you'll find that S60 5th Edition is now very complete indeed. Add in the most up to date audio and video codecs so that almost any file type can be handled and the real time maturity of Symbian OS in handling multiple data connections, applications and interruptions seamlessly, and you end up with a phone with a rock solid base - even if the top soil is still in motion a little(!)

PS. As a postscript to this point, the 5800 has been widely criticised as Nokia simply slapping a touch layer on the existing 'outdated' S60 interface. This is, to some extent what Nokia has done (plus a lot more under the hood), but my argument (and theirs) would be that it's better to leverage and improve a phone interface that's already in use by well over 200 million users across the world than to throw it all out and start again. In this way, the 5800 XpressMusic feels instantly familiar when in use - it's no direct iPhone or Palm Pre competitor in the UI stakes, but there's more to a great PDA or phone than a pretty interface.

8. Wi-Fi, TV-out and GPS

At this price level you really wouldn't expect Wi-Fi and TV out and GPS, even in 2009 - that's a lot of power user functions to shoehorn in. All very welcome indeed though - I know I for one couldn't live without Wi-Fi (video podcast downloading, mainly!) and I'd be extremely loathe to return to the days of the separate Bluetooth GPS. TV out isn't used that often, but is handy to keep for tech demos and immediate display of your snaps. With the likes of Nokia's E63 omitting a GPS, ostensibly for cost reasons, it's good to see that the 5800 XpressMusic's product manager had his head screwed on straight when working out the spec level that Nokia could afford in their 'Tube'.

9. Inclusion of an 8GB microSD in the box

With the already generous box bundle (stand, TV out cable, case, etc.) it was another pleasant surprise to see a fullish complement of 8GB of expansion disk space available from the very beginning. Even with my power user needs, I've still not filled my 8GB card yet, so many 5800 owners won't even need to go shopping - ever. Again, kudos to Nokia for going the extra mile.

Nokia 5800 XpressMusic detail

10. Loud loudspeakers

I've already mentioned this in the main review, but the 5800 boasts some very impressive stereo speakers. When listening to podcasts, the 5800's sound output easily fills the kitchen or wherever I'm toiling, helping to make the chores enjoyable.

Nokia 5800 XpressMusic detail

Steve Litchfield, All About Symbian, 8 March 2009

Categories: Comment, Hardware
Platforms: S60 5th Edition

Feature Discussion

Unregistered
Spot on Steve. Great article. Not to mention that the 5800XM syncs well with the Mac, and is a great addition. With the inclusion of JoikuSpot, the 5800XM as well as other Nokia devices simply run cirlce around the iPhone. After spending a month with the 5800XM, I did realize that it is a tad bit underpowered but I am sure Nokia can maybe optimize the code a bit more to squeeze every ounce of power out of the CPU. I am waiting for the N97 or the Nokia netbook that will be coming.
Unregistered
How do you get it to sync with the Mac? Is there a feature on this topic?


Great article, I got rid of my iPhone for a 5800 and haven't looked back. Just need to put some podcasts and my music on there now. Will iTunes podcasts play on the 5800 or are they DRM'ed?



Thanks.
fiish
I don't have a Mac however I am sure the 5800 works quite well in Mass Storage mode, not sure about the PC Suite mode for syncing contacts and the like.

I replaced an iPhone with the 5800 as well, and I have had no problem loading podcasts on it. I think it probably also depends on the podcast itself - I listen mainly to BBC podcasts which are all in DRM-free MP3 format - it was a matter of finding the files and dumping them in the memory card's Podcasts folder.
Unregistered
Two much more fundamental things that are at the top of my list that make the 5800 a bit more special are: 1. Price. Most were surprised at the low sim-free cost and free with any contract from the launch. 2. Size. Touch would seem to require something larger to accommodate finger sizes, but Nokia seem to have succeeded in keeping the size down.

Very much agree on the keyguard operation, about time it was that slick.
Unregistered
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
How do you get it to sync with the Mac? Is there a feature on this topic?


Great article, I got rid of my iPhone for a 5800 and haven't looked back. Just need to put some podcasts and my music on there now. Will iTunes podcasts play on the 5800 or are they DRM'ed?



Thanks.
Easy peasy. There is an iSync plug-in you can get on the Nokia site. In stall this, and your Mac will see your 5800XM. Then download the Nokia Media Transfer app. It will create a plyalist folder in iTunes that you can fill with your songs, and they are transfered to your 5800XM. DRM'd content will not play on the 5800XM of course. Podcasts aren't usually DRM'd that I know of. I played podcasts all the time on mine.
Unregistered
Talking of DRM, has anyone else lost the ability to download on BBC iPlayer V1.6.0. on V20 firmware? I had the download links working after upgrading to V20, but they've stopped appearing since Friday.
6th March.
Unregistered
No complaints about the phone. But the protective cover is bad. You can scratch the phone while putting inside. could have given a leather cover like e71. Now I am searching for a decent cover.
Unregistered
Hey Steve, what theme is that you got on your 5800? THANX
sapporobaby
@unregistered,

What are you talking about? The protective cover is great. I have taken my phone in and out countless times without scratching the phone or the screen. I will admit however, if you run the cover through sand and mud then put the phone in the case there is a chance that it can become scratched or damaged.
bustafone
I thought we weren't supposed to compare this to the iPHONE.
timsalmon
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
Talking of DRM, has anyone else lost the ability to download on BBC iPlayer V1.6.0. on V20 firmware? I had the download links working after upgrading to V20, but they've stopped appearing since Friday.
6th March.
Yes - I have too. I don't think it's anything to do with the FW upgrade, as you say, though but rather the BBC have decided to pull the plug on it. I read somewhere on the iPlayer download page that 'only n96 and N85 can download' content. Very strange. See grid here...

http://iplayerhelp.external.bbc.co.u...r/mobile_phone

Is anyone else's still working? Steve?

Tim
Unregistered
Steve, you forgot to include the goodies included with the phone's packaging. Guitar pluck/strap, phone case and video viewer stand are items most phone don't get and adds performace.
Unregistered
I think BBC allowing downloads on the 5800 was a mistake on their part. When V20 firmware came out it caught them out, they or Nokia never meant to allow it except for premium phones, and now they have caught up and switched it off.

Shame really, because for me downloads are the difference between the iPlayer being useful or useless. Since downloads were switched off on the 5800 I have uninstalled iPlayer, as a jerky streamer it's a waste of memory card space.
timsalmon
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
jerky streamer
If that's true, it's a shame. And although I agree that it's a jerky streamer, some careful handling can smooth out a lot of the jerking - I find that starting the stream then pressing 'pause' for a couple of minutes lets the stream get ahead enough to not effect playback. But you're right, it's a naff compromise when we had download before. I also had it downloading since the FW upgrade, so it can't be as a *direct* result of that.

Oh well, back to the N96 in the back pocket!

Tim
slitchfield
Of course, it's possible that the iPlayer thing is just a temporary glitch? We'll see, I guess, if it's still not working in a week's time 8-)

BTW, the theme on my 5800 is PiZero's "Ice". Many PiZero themes don't work properly on the 5800 (tabs problem) but this one does. Weird!

Steve
Unregistered
According to the BBC's own support grid (linked elsewhere in this thread) 5800xm is not supported for downloads. So, not a glitch.
udewal
Hi Steve,

Nice Article. Just wanted to check on loudspeakers. Are they louder ( and better) than age old 6233 ? Asking because two of my friends (and my wife too) use 6233 just because of its loudspeaker quality and volume levels are so high.

Haven't had a chance to see 5800 myself even though it's launched in India quite some time ago hence asking. Maybe I should try and check for myself.

Regards

Umesh
Unregistered
Well, i have both 6233 n 5800, from india. 6233 is louder compared to 5800. Quality about the same, 5800 little better.

Ketan
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Unregistered
I'm composing a list of things that have annoyed me or that I think could be improved on in the Nokia 5800's current firmware. I welcome everyone to add commentaries and features they've thought of themselves. Perhaps, some day, someone at Nokia will read it and pass on a few ideas. Read my frequently updated list at:

sanderstruck. blogspot. com /2009/02/ nokia-5800-annoyances.html


(Whenever something annoys me, I take it down in the built-in Notes app and later on I put it on my blog, might be a good idea to do so too - perhaps one day, we'll have the perfect phone, for just €300-odd).
abruenin
Here in Germany, the 5800 comes at € 329,- without contract, which is about half of the price of an iPhone without contract.

IMHO, it has been a very good idea, not directly competing with the iPhone in it's premium price segment, but offering it in the usual smart phone price range.

Considering the better camera, battery, video recording option, micro SD slot and the maturity of the base OS and all the radio technic, the 5800 is a great value for money.

So I guess, for many people the 5800 will be an alternative to the iPhone, if the prices matters...
Unregistered
Yes, People seeing Nokia 5800 as an iPhone killer. You get same features in less price.

You can see feature comparioson between both the devices here-

http://nokia5800downloads.blogspot.c...is-iphone.html
Vijayakumar
**Please think twice before buying newly shipped 5800 (September). TV out feature has been removed.**

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