From Apple iPhone to Nokia N97 mini?

Published by Steve Litchfield at 14:34 UTC, January 20th 2010

Summary:

Guest author Matt Radford (of All About iPhone) borrowed my Nokia N97 mini for a few weeks recently. His aim? To see if he could switch to it from his beloved Apple iPhone. Matt was a hardened Symbian user in times past with a love of the S60 2nd Edition-powered Nokia N70, so this was an especially interesting experiment.

Matt Radford

Matt Radford

A long time ago (in mobile) I used a Symbian phone, and I loved it. My Nokia N70 was an incredibly capable device - compact, durable and feature-laden. But I moved from S60 - describing why in an article here for All About Symbian - as I found the iPhone experience to be far more enjoyable. And this was even before the App Store launched.

But recently Nokia has released quite a few nice-looking touchscreens. So Steve Litchfield offered to lend me his N97 mini, because I wanted to answer this question:

If I had to ditch my iPhone today, would the N97 mini cut it as a replacement?

I was specifically interested in moving to back to Symbian with touch, and seeing if I could replicate the great user experience of my iPhone. This isn't a me-too review - AAS has already reviewed the N97 and N97 Mini at length - but more a comparison of platforms. I wasn't looking to customise the UI to match an iPhone, or trying to make it what it isn't. I looked at things I now consider to be the "core" usage of my phone, and asked, "Could I do the same things I do everyday on my iPhone?". That's all.

These are things I consider "core" to my phone, just every day stuff:

  •       Texts
  •       Calls
  •       Email
  •       Camera
  •       Calendar
  •       To-Dos
  •       Web
  •       Music
  •       RSS feeds
  •       Twitter

I'm not much of a gamer, so that didn't get a look-in. To the above, I also added synchronisation. My phone hasn't been a standalone device since I owned a Nokia 7650.

 

SO HOW DID THE N97 MINI FARE?

First off, the physical differences.

In general, the phone felt solid. So solid that I had to use pliers to get Steve's SIM out! But other than that, really nicely put together and good in the hands. The screen's more than adequate, but as it's winter, I didn't get a chance to test it in decent sunlight. The large screen felt on a par with the amount of screen real estate I've come to expect in a touch device.

However, the phone itself was quite slippery (especially when opening up the slide), causing me to drop it a couple of times (don't tell Steve! You what????!! Arghh!! - Ed). But this is just like my iPhone - both phones need a case to provide better grip.

And a novelty - a physical keyboard! Yet I found that my typing was no quicker on the N97 mini than on my iPhone. Maybe it's a matter of familiarity, but I think the fact that it was a QWERTY keyboard was more important than having actual buttons to press.

The N97 mini's keyboard

 

OK, HARDWARE OUT OF THE WAY. HOW DID THE SOFTWARE COMPARE?

The phone was running firmware 10.0.020 14-10-09. Setup was all very nice (no need to connect to iTunes of course!) Once my SIM was in, the Pay Monthly APN settings came through by text for O2, and I was quickly on the 3G network. Adding Wifi access meant delving somewhere into settings, but the phone got onto my WPA2 network without any problems. I'm not sure I understand the whole "Access Point" thing though, it seemed unnecessarily confusing.

Anyway, I had connectivity, and could explore the phone's functions.

SMS

Basic texting is good (hello character count!), but I've grown used to threaded SMS on the iPhone, and especially grown to like a conversation view.  I found an app called Free-iSMS for S60, but I have to get it signed(!) to install it, and I couldn't see how to do that. Shame.

Camera

I've taken some surprisingly good photos on my iPhone, but this is in a different league. Just look at those options! Some of these things I can correct for (using the Photoshop Mobile app) on my iPhone, but I'd rather do it at front end. And another novelty - a flash! I've always rated Nokia's camera functions, and the excellence of the N97 mini's camera has had me pining for a decent camera again.

N97 mini camera

RSS

I reckon I do most of my reading on my iPhone these days, mainly through an app called Byline that syncs with my Google Reader account. So my one and only paid purchase from the Ovi Store (more on that later) was gReader. After only a few minutes of usage, I'd decided it's even better than Byline on my iPhone. All the options you could want, and as pleasing as the Google website on a desktop. Just excellent. Can I have an iPhone version please?

Twitter

Gravity does the job. A clean interface, multiple account support, etc. Superb. I'm not sure if Twitter-native retweet is supported yet, but even so, another great S60 app. Looking good!

Gravity  Gravity

(images from AAS's Gravity review)

Ah but then:

To-dos

Native to-do functionality is fine for shopping lists, but is no good for Getting Things Done-style task management. On my iPhone, I use 'Things', which syncs over Wifi to the Things app on my Mac. I absolutely depend it every day. But could I find any decent GTD clients for S60? Nope, not a peep of one. And it's not just me. Surely someone in the S60 smartphone community could write one? Don't S60 users like being productive? This is a real problem for me in switching back to S60.

Calendar / Email / Contacts

I use Google Apps on my iPhone for all of this, using over-the-air sync. But could I get set up on the N97 Mini? No chance. Email setup went into an endless loop of failure messages (Nokia Messaging - ah, so it's not just me then - Ed]. Contacts and Calendar at least transferred from my Mac via iSync using the official Nokia plugin; it nicely synced across the photos for contacts and displayed them on the contacts list. Amazingly, I have to (ahem) jailbreak my iPhone and buy a dedicated app (Cyntact) to get this functionality.

Several Litchfield-ian "Gah!"s later, I gave up. This was very disappointing, as I really wanted to test this stuff. But even so, I'm sure the N97 mini is more than capable. I found that Profimail is still going, and even has a homescreen widget for the N97, so there is an alternative to S60's terrible built-in client. But had Steve not told me about Mail for Exchange (to get Google sync working), I would have been incredibly frustrated.

Phone

It's the little things that make the difference. The iPhone has a lovely intuitive phone function, but it was great to use a phone that could:

  •       set a contact's default number for calls and texts;
  •       integrate VoIP dialling into the Address Book;
  •       automatically re-dial a number if it's engaged.

On this front, the N97 mini was a welcome reminder of how a phone - the basic function of this device - should operate. Plus the speakerphone is excellent.

Web

This is where I really missed multi-touch. It's so intuitive. Having to zoom in and out with explicit icons seems like a retrograde step, and detracts from the ease of reading. Also, when you're filling in a form, there's no "Next" button to skip to the next field - you have to touch on it instead. Overall, it's ok but certainly not as pleasant as Safari on the iPhone.

Web 

Music

Playing music was fine; not as fluid as on the iPhone, but passable. A case of good enough, although I had to embed my album artwork into the AAC files themselves in order to get it on the N97 mini (because of the way iTunes now stores album art).

Media Sync

Getting media synced onto the N97 mini from my Mac had also hugely improved since my last outing with Nokia Multimedia Transfer on the Mac. Counter-intuitively, you don't connect your N97 mini in 'Media Transfer' mode, but PC Suite. It was also unclear that I had to unplug the USB cable for the "Refresh music library" option to show, which meant I synced a few times before I figured out what was going on.

NMT's a bit more convoluted than just plugging an iPhone into iTunes, but once set up, it's excellent. It does a lovely job of iPhoto import and sync, and syncing Safari bookmarks - although it didn't preserve the bookmarks folder structure, merging them all into one big folder.

 

OVI. OY VEY.

Ah, and then there's the Ovi Store. One of the things I love about my iPhone is the ease of getting apps. The iTunes account on my Mac simply synced to the App Store. On my iPhone, I just started using it, with the occasional password entry required. Easy. With the Ovi Store, however, I first had to update the store (huh?), then try and sign up. Which was a chore. Have you seen The Really Mobile Project’s video? Thankfully I avoided the Hannah Montana deluge, but here's a summary of my sign-up:

"Enter all your details, then enter a CAPTCHA. But bringing up the keyboard takes the view of the CAPTCHA away. I got the CAPTCHA wrong, then the reloaded page didn't show it, then it did show and I entered it correctly, only to find out that my username was already taken. Then another "Invalid CAPTCHA". Then another "Username already exists". Eventually... my account was created. Then I had to accept the Ts and Cs that I'd already accepted. Finally - account created! Thank $deity for that."

[Editor's note: I wonder how many people try signing up to Ovi using just the phone itself? I originally created my account in a desktop web browser, for example. Your comments welcome, here!]

I made it through, but had (say) my Dad encountered it, then there would have been no sign up completed. Please Nokia, make this easier. Yet once I'd passed the Ovi stress test, I found it fine to use. It's a bit user-unfriendly, and it took a while to navigate through, but it got the job done.

 

OVERALL

I was not entirely convinced that touch-enabling S60 has worked for Nokia. It feels ok but not great. Certainly there are small things that need improving, e.g. on the iPhone you can tap the  status bar to jump back to the top of a long page in any app, which sounds a tiny thing to highlight, but it saves an awful lot of time scrolling.

And this is not to say that touch can't work on Symbian - I had a Samsung i8910HD for a few months, and the feel of that device was very different. Perhaps it was the very large screen, but it felt like touch was not a bolt-on. It felt natural.

In contrast, I also borrowed a Nokia N86 from Steve recently, and absolutely loved it. I'd noted the praise from the likes of James Whatley and James Burland, and have to concur. The N86 is an example of an end-of-the-line, all-the-little-bits-tweaked phone that showcases how powerful and polished S60 can be - when buttons are the input mechanism.

The N97 mini left me with the impression that S60 still needs to abstract all the technical cruft away, in favour of simplifying things for the user - email setup for Gmail and Ovi Store account creation being prime examples. And some of my niggles can probably be fixed with a bit of Googling. But for me, the saving grace is the number of apps now available, even if it doesn't have the breadth of Apple's App Store, or include personal favourites such as Dropbox and Touchnote. Downloadable apps means that if I wanted to, I could switch back to S60 fairly easily, and go about my day.

Trying out the N97 mini has forced me to consider what I use really use my phone for, and has made plain that me definition of "core usage" has changed immensely since I switched from my N70. I'd be happy to use an N97 mini as my main phone, but Symbian needs to feel like it's designed for touch with a simple, fluid user interface. Roll on Symbian^4...

Matt Radford, guest writer, All About Symbian 21 Jan 2010


 

 

PS. For a video chat about the N97 mini loan and the iPhone world, see the embedded video below:


 

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Discussion

brrip
I'm surprised that the home screen was left out, because that's a big thing the N97 (mini) has going for itself.
Unregistered
Excellent. Spot on.
Insane Reindeer
RE: Touchnote.

I have just checked and I am amazed to see that Touchnote is available for my N85, but not for the N97mini...

Wow! I was sure you must of made a mistake with that one, for I have been using ot for a while now!

...Anyway, that was a great read, and I will be pointing out your comments on the "phone" aspect to a few iPhone users that I know!

Thanks. :)
JayTay
re: Google Calendar syncing. I found the best way to do this with iCal was to subscribe to each Calendar I wanted to sync as a separate Google account in iCal. Not pretty but it then let me sync everything to the phone.
CanadianEh
I recently got myself an iTouch and I basically stopped using my s60v3 for most of my daily phone activities ( browsing, Twitter, Skype, email, rss). I still use it as a phone (calling) and a wifi hotspot ( joikuspot). I'm losing my faith in Symbian. I typed this message on my iTouch.
davidmaxwaterma
I signed up from a phone - I always do and get annoyed when I'm forced onto a computer. I bought a smart phone so I don't have to use a computer.
Unregistered
Hasn't this already been published here before?
slitchfield
@unregistered: The video chat was published before - the 2000 word article is new.

8-)
mattrad
@brrip
Today screen is a big thing missing from the iPhone, but mine's jailbroken and has LockInfo installed, which does everything I need. This doesn't help regular users I know, but I can cope with a little hacking :)

@Insane Reindeer
I contacted the Touchnote peeps about the lack of a 5th Ed. touchscreen-lovin' app, and you'll be pleased to hear there's a version on the way.

@JayTay
Funny, because my iCal is set up just like that. Despite quite a few tries, the calendar would not sync. So I've no idea if they've fixed the "All Day Event in iCal" becomes "00:00-23:59 event in S60 Calendar" bug yet.

@davidmaxwaterma
I didn't even think of signing up via a computer to be honest! I can sign up for a new iTunes account on my iPhone now, so I expected it to be that straightforward. Unfortunately, Ovi had a few more hurdles. After sign-up, it worked very well I thought.
Unregistered
So Nokia still doesn't include Conversation (threaded SMS reader) as part of the firmware? I use it on my N85. It's been around a while.
Unregistered
For To Doīs you have now Evernote for 5th. Roadsync also works great for Google Sync, the problem is the $50 it costs is a robbery for a phone application (hey, also for a pc application).

I really donīt understand gReader, I tried it on N95, E71, E72 and my N97 mini and found it so horrible, I never reach the point where the app sync with my Google Reader account, I donīt know if I am doing something wrong or or what.
Unregistered
@CanadiaEh,

There is not such thing as an iTouch. It is an iPod Touch. Look at the box. It says the name.

@Brrip,

The problem is that Apple is not allowing access to the required API's or the SDK does not allow it. I too am using LockInfo which seems to work for the most part. It can be a bit twitchy but for the most part it works.
Dynite
Just to say, zooming is easily done by a double tap, but that said, if you didn't find it, then usability could perhaps be improved (although stretch to zoom is about the same level of obviousness imo)
JayTay
Quote:
Originally Posted by mattrad View Post
@brrip
Funny, because my iCal is set up just like that. Despite quite a few tries, the calendar would not sync. So I've no idea if they've fixed the "All Day Event in iCal" becomes "00:00-23:59 event in S60 Calendar" bug yet.
Hmm, all the all day events from Google Calendar are showing as all day events in Calendar on my N97 Mini.
brrip
@unregistered/mattrad

i get where you guys are coming from, i did that when i had an iphone too, but still the n97 homescreen is a plus not just for all the notifications, but plugins from a lot of apps. it's a great feature to have, out of the box.
TheProdigalFool
Thanks for an interesting article.

I must admit, I came to similar conclusions when trying out an N97 mini to replace my iPhone. Bottomline? It just doesn't match up overall. For those who are interested my full post is here:

http://theprodigalguide.com/2010/01/...st-the-iphone/
Unregistered
Quote:
Don't S60 users like being productive?
Yes, I do. That's why I use a pen and paper (a small pocket notebook or sticky notes) for writing and reviewing my daily tasks.

I haven't bothered with a digital device for Tasks since I stopped using my Psion. Even on a Palm pen and paper was more efficient.

Less time entering notes means more time for real productivity.
Unregistered
I stopped using Nokia devices as soon as I could get out of my N95 contract, but I just love coming back to this website, its sooooo geeky.

Symbian is absolute rubbish in the post iPhone era, but you guys havent woken up to the fact that its doomed yet. I even prefer WM 6.1, even before someone like HTC makes it fun.

Lets face is, Symbian is destined for low end devices in the future, and if Nokia dont sort things out they are heading south.

I would say Nokia are dooooooooooomed, but maybe not. Everyone had written off Motorola yet they are suddenly producing some very tasty Android handsets.....


.....I just hope Nokia learns quickly before 'emerging markets' become the only place where they're influential.

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