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N8 Nokia Messaging demo, N8 pre-orders in USA
Published by Rafe Blandford at 19:30 UTC, August 17th 2010
One of the most under-rated features of the Nokia N8 is its new email client, in the form of an upgraded version of Nokia Messaging. The Nokia Messaging team, in a blog post and video, talk about some of the key improvements, which include full HTML email support, improved device integration, easier set up and settings configuration, portal address lookup for GMail and Hotmail and improved performance characteristics. Also in N8 related news is the availability of N8 pre-orders through the Nokia USA web store.
Nokia Messaging on the Nokia N8
The Nokia N8 will ship with a new version of Nokia Messaging. Along with performance and architecture improvements there's a whole range of new and updated features. The new version is also, as we mentioned in our recent review, available on the Nokia C6.
We'll be bringing you a more detailed look at the new version of this key Nokia service in due course.
In the meantime the Nokia Messaging blog provides a comprehensive list of the new features:
- Full HTML support – Including pinch-and-zoom support and kinetic scrolling throughout the client
- Full device integration with multiple home screen email accounts – So you can see up to ten accounts on the homescreen
- Email client syncs read-notifications – So when you read a message on the desktop, your phone syncs that info (and vice versa)
- UI and Settings simplification – Easier setup, faster client and quicker navigation
- Improved reliability server-side – Service uptime is an incredibly important barometer for us and this new client takes advantage of server-side improvements that will further increase reliability
- Portal address lookup for Gmail and Hotmail – Ability to look up your contacts email addresses from your portal address book
- Messaging Service benefits – Battery life efficiency, on-demand attachment download and forwarding.
- Supports 250 messages in the inbox – Up from 100 in the current clients
- Supports 10 IMAP subfolders – No need to select on website, client automatically selects first ten subfolders
- Memory storage on the largest non-removable memory drive available – Never worry about memory usage from message store
Here is a video demonstrating Nokia Messaging in action on the Nokia N8:
Nokia N8 pre-orders
N8 pre-order in the USA are available through Nokia's web store. The N8 is priced at $549 (£352), although there will be additional tax charges in some states (e.g. Matt from Nokia Experts was charged $611 / £392), with availability is scheduled for the the end of September.
The N8 is already available for pre-order in Italy, France, Germany, Poland and Spain with an average cost of at a cost of €469 (£390).
More on the Nokia N8
Nokia N8 - hardware hands-on first look
Nokia N8 video overview examined in detail: part 1, part 2 and part 3
Nokia N8 - content creation and consumption on Symbian^3
The Nokia N8: Imaging champion with a five year legacy
The making of the Nokia N8's camera
The Nokia N8 seen through YouTube videos
What does the internet think of the Nokia N8?
Nokia N8 image and video samples
More on the N8's stills and video camera
News Discussion
Unregistered
Is mail for exchange integrated into nokia messaging ? or is this a seperate client. i have not seen a demo for this.
Dazzy
Retail price of N8 brings it very close to some of the top end Android devices, wonder will this effect it's sales.
Jimmy1
Wow, with tax included that's approaching unlocked Droid/iPhone territory, or a cheap laptop.
Meh. Outside of Nokia enthusiasts here, I don't think it'll do much. Most people won't buy a pricey phone sight unseen, without being able to get their hands on it.
At the end of the day, without a retail presence, it'll mostly get ignored over here.
Meh. Outside of Nokia enthusiasts here, I don't think it'll do much. Most people won't buy a pricey phone sight unseen, without being able to get their hands on it.
At the end of the day, without a retail presence, it'll mostly get ignored over here.
smcmanus
I haven't heard anything out SIP integration. I have a VoIP phone system at home (a Snom M3), and have it integrated with PBXes, and a Calling provider, and have 2 of our 3 Cell Phones on a WAN HOME SIP network.
And it would be a big downer if the SIP client sort of slipped through the cracks.
Steve M (Not L)
And it would be a big downer if the SIP client sort of slipped through the cracks.
Steve M (Not L)
RollerSMB
Looks to me like the delay was due to retrieving the email, which would make sense. When clicking on an email that already had the open envelope (eg, the html one later on), it opened quite speedily.
And seriously, why do you troll these forums? Is this in response to some anti Apple sentiment you've experienced elsewhere? I personally am looking forward to the n8, but the iPhone 4 is a great piece of kit too. Maybe instead of writing negative sentiment on non-apple device forums, you could start a blog about the positive experiences you've had with the iPhone 4, am sure there would be heaps to write about, eg, the stellar app store, awsome screen etc. Just saying.
And seriously, why do you troll these forums? Is this in response to some anti Apple sentiment you've experienced elsewhere? I personally am looking forward to the n8, but the iPhone 4 is a great piece of kit too. Maybe instead of writing negative sentiment on non-apple device forums, you could start a blog about the positive experiences you've had with the iPhone 4, am sure there would be heaps to write about, eg, the stellar app store, awsome screen etc. Just saying.
jb8967
Another reason for me to get PNHT's port of the C6 firmware to my Nokia 5800XM. Along with homescreen widgets, this will once again improve on an already reliable and capable device. The 5800XM will have plenty of longevity left, though it will become my backup phone when the N8 arrives! As a satisfied customer of the current e-mail client, very much look forward to these improvements. THX's Nokia!
Hassan
I wish they could had rid of that stupid keyboard (Pad) where it covers the whole UI plus a little green tick. :mad:
Unregistered
"Supports 250 messages in the inbox – Up from 100 in the current clients"
Why is the limit even there?
Blackberries having issues with more in the inbox.
Why is the limit even there?
Blackberries having issues with more in the inbox.
Unregistered
Where is Exchange support?
But then the demo of server-side addressbook look-up with gmail the title changes to Mail for Exchange suddenly..
Support for MfE or not? Support for Gmail-contactlist look-up or not??
But then the demo of server-side addressbook look-up with gmail the title changes to Mail for Exchange suddenly..
Support for MfE or not? Support for Gmail-contactlist look-up or not??
Unregistered
"Retail price of N8 brings it very close to some of the top end Android devices, wonder will this effect it's sales."
No, it doesn't. The Samsung Galaxy S (the only Android device that matches the N8 in performance), costs around 750$ UNLOCKED. The N8 is around 590$ UNLOCKED.
No, it doesn't. The Samsung Galaxy S (the only Android device that matches the N8 in performance), costs around 750$ UNLOCKED. The N8 is around 590$ UNLOCKED.
Unregistered
I sure hope it's not the man-in-the-middle service by Nokia Email. It's 2010 already! It would be good for Nokia to finally build a real IMAP client that supports the open and very mature IMAP protocol like Profimail, and support all these UI features still. The email support has been so backwards in that the backend architecture is horrible, but the UI is kind of nice, compared to the rest of Symbian where the underlying is actually solid, but the S60 is a wreck. I hated how sending email was tied to the sync setting of the app - I turned off Send/Receive soonest on the current Nokia Email client because it was a real battery drain, but what I really wanted was to only receive every 30 min, but send immediately. Is it so hard to tie the client to the connection availability of the phone - basically don't try to connect/send/etc when no connectivity is available, and then send/receive as soon as connectivity returns. You know, like how the phone/SMS works, SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A PHONE!! I still use my old Nokia's, but if this really is the case, this is another example of how out of touch Nokia software engineering is.
-Gene
-Gene
KPOM
Nokia needs to get this onto a carrier pretty quickly if they want it to sell in the US. Americans have shown time and time again that they are willing to buy smartphones, but don't want to pay $500 or more upfront to get one. At $549 unlocked, it could go for $199 on contract, which would make it potentially attractive against the iPhone and popular high-end Android devices, though the relative lack of app support for Symbian will hurt it.
UKJeeper
I've left the baiting until now. However it's getting out of hand. I have removed the off topic, flaming posts. Any further ones will also be removed.
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Nokia needs to get this onto a carrier pretty quickly if they want it to sell in the US. Americans have shown time and time again that they are willing to buy smartphones, but don't want to pay $500 or more upfront to get one. At $549 unlocked, it could go for $199 on contract, which would make it potentially attractive against the iPhone and popular high-end Android devices, though the relative lack of app support for Symbian will hurt it.
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The N8 with fewer apps and much less U.S. based content and the more Euro-centric Ovi Store, isn't going to move many units. I haven't heard that the Nuron or E73 Mode sold much on T-Mobile USA.
Most people here likely look through Ovi and see BBC iplayer and ESPN Soccernet, and pretty much give up on it.
James Howell
I don't understand where this blackberry style need for a server to collect and forward your emails comes from. Until recently phones would have a fully featured exchange and imap client (like my E71) and would work perfectly with no limits on what you could sync with, how you could sync with it or how many messages you could have in your email.
We seem to be taking steps backwards, and this is the reason my E71 is my device of choice, and I have not upgraded to the E72 or newer.
We seem to be taking steps backwards, and this is the reason my E71 is my device of choice, and I have not upgraded to the E72 or newer.
viipottaja
Jimmy K, have you heard anything about the sales of Nuron? I.e. how would you have heard it if it has sold or not?
Purely anecdotal of course and I am not assuming it has sold by the bucket load, but I've seen several around my neck of the woods, and that's rare (besides PayG phones).
Secondly, you know quite well that the Nokia online store price is the highest one you will ever find anywhere. Amazon etc. are guaranteed to sell it cheaper from day 1.
Purely anecdotal of course and I am not assuming it has sold by the bucket load, but I've seen several around my neck of the woods, and that's rare (besides PayG phones).
Secondly, you know quite well that the Nokia online store price is the highest one you will ever find anywhere. Amazon etc. are guaranteed to sell it cheaper from day 1.
Jimmy1
No, I don't have hard sales figures, but I do know the regional manager of some Suffolk County (Long Island) Radio Shacks, which sell mobile phones on contract for T-Mo.
He's told me that, aside from if they keep the iphone in stock, the most questions they get from shoppers is, 'What kind of Droids do you have?' Regarding the Nuron, specifically, they give it away as 'the free bonus phone', when somebody opens a multi line family plan.
Another interesting tidbit: young girls prefer hardware qwertys, while teen boys go after the big screen android phones (if their parents get it for them).
He's told me that, aside from if they keep the iphone in stock, the most questions they get from shoppers is, 'What kind of Droids do you have?' Regarding the Nuron, specifically, they give it away as 'the free bonus phone', when somebody opens a multi line family plan.
Another interesting tidbit: young girls prefer hardware qwertys, while teen boys go after the big screen android phones (if their parents get it for them).
cylon6
Is it possible to change font, font size and colour of text when writing emails?
jerm
doesn't seem like we'll be getting any answers till the device launch and someone gets their grubby hands on it
what i'd like to know:
- can the mailboxes be renamed?
- specific tones for specific accounts? i know blackberry has an app for this, it would be a lot better if i can differentiate what email comes in through the alert tone. emoze has this feature built in, but limited to ROM sounds only. ugh.
what i'd like to know:
- can the mailboxes be renamed?
- specific tones for specific accounts? i know blackberry has an app for this, it would be a lot better if i can differentiate what email comes in through the alert tone. emoze has this feature built in, but limited to ROM sounds only. ugh.
keys
At 1 min 19 of that video, the zoom function, I noticed it doesn't also wrap the text.. so you'd have to drag left and right to read the email. Isn't that a bit of a nuisance?
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Adobe Reader LE 2.5 is a Symbian app. Very interesting, this must be an E something.
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Jimmy1
Yeah, the N9 just killed off any potential interest I had in the N8. Meego is clearly the future for Nokia, even though Symbian will still be around, so I'm going to hold out for that.
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Yeah, the N9 just killed off any potential interest I had in the N8. Meego is clearly the future for Nokia, even though Symbian will still be around, so I'm going to hold out for that.
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