Nokia Q2 2009 results, generally positive in economic context
Published by Rafe Blandford, Steve Litchfield at 11:58 BST, July 16th 2009
Nokia has released their Q2 2009 results. Profits were down 66% year on year, but this was ahead of market expectations. Nokia cut its prediction for H2 2009 profitability and market share for 2009, which has driven down its share price. However the underlying results are encouraging, given the economic climate, although some concerns remain in the high end of the market. Converged devices sales (smartphone) were up at 16.9 million, compared with 15.3 million units in Q2 2008 and 13.7 million units in Q1 2009. The 5800 shipped 3.7 million units, while Eseries and Nseries shipments were 4.7 and 4.6 million respectively.
Olli-Pekka Kallasuvo, Nokia CEO, said:
"Nokia put in a solid performance in what was another tough quarter. We increased our share of the global mobile device market sequentially to an estimated 38% and grew our smartphone market share to an estimated 41%. As a result of strong operational execution, underlying operating margins improved sequentially in all segments. Competition remains intense, but demand in the overall mobile device market appears to be bottoming out. As before, we are continuing to tightly manage our operating expenses.
We are balancing short-term priorities with our longer-term growth ambitions as elements of the mobile handset, PC, internet and media industries converge to form a new industry. Consumers will increasingly expect devices and services designed as integrated solutions. To capture this opportunity we are accelerating our strategic transformation into a solutions company."
Ponts of interest
Conference call notes
These notes are from Nokia's Q2 results conference call:
- OPK talked about how the mobile industry is under going the biggest change in its twenty year history and as a result Nokia is accelerating the pace of change towards a solutions mode of operation. This is the change that sees the convergence of mobile, Internet and media industries.
Nokia regards a vibrant partner ecosystem (open approach) as very important to this future. OPK believes that Nokia open approach, working with partners, will help create a large sustainable ecosystem, which will drive mutual success for those involved. OPK used the Symbian Foundation, which was described as a cornerstone of Nokia's strategy, as an example of this, describing how Symbian and Qt would allow developers to build innovative application that leverage Nokia's Ovi service platform and allow Nokia to differentiate its products from its competitors. Further sharing these opportunities with developers and innovators will allow Nokia to move more quickly.
- Part of this move to a 'solutions mode of operation' (software and services) is an inherent commitment to build direct and continuous consumer relationships. As a result Nokia will measure the gaining and retaining of consumers as a key metric; this will be measured as 'active users'. Nokia aims to have 300 million active users by 2011. At the beginning of Q3 it has 46 million active users and is aiming / estimating 80 million active users by the end of the year.
- Nokia shipped 500,000 Nokia N97s in June 2009. The Nokia 5800 has now generated just under EUR 1.5 billion revenue for Nokia. It was, as with Q1, Nokia's best revenue generating product.
- Nokia Messaging now has 10 operator agreements (most recently America Movil), and there are ongoing discussion with many more. OPK said, 'we are just beginning to show our potential; the economics to operators are very compelling'.
- Nokia will continue to address all price points and segments. It aims to become a leading provider of integrated mobile solutions, which allows the user 'to make the most of every moment'. OPK noted that it will be a competitive space and the 'winners are yet to be determined'.
See also
Nokia Results
Earlier results: Q1 2009, Q4 2008, Q3 2008, and Q2 2008
Categories: Links of Interest, Industry
Platforms: General, N-Gage, S60 3rd Edition, S60 5th Edition
News Discussion
Tzer2
Swings and roundabouts really, sales went down year on year but up quarter on quarter. Operating profits went down, but market share (both for phones and smartphones) went up. A mixed bag.
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the Nokia 5800 XpressMusic sold 3.7 million units in Q2 and is now up to 6.8 million this year
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Wow, 5800 sales are now over 1 million per month... it must surely be the best-selling Symbian device right now. I wonder how long before it overtakes sales records for a Symbian model. What would the record be, 10 million? 20 million?
Unregistered
5800XM biggest selling mp3 player of the year? Could be, at least in europe.
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@Tzer2
The Nokia N73 currently holds the record for the best selling smartphone of all time. The last time it's sales figures were reported, it had sold over 22 million units.
The 5800XM still has a way to go. :)
Unregistered
Has anyone read engadget's take on this? Not surprising, but how do they have the balls to do it!
adi_pie
The most interesting things for me would be the fact that the Eseries has surpassed the Nseries in terms of sales, even if not by much, as well as the fact that the 5800 has sold almost as well the iPhone.
The way Engadget covers the story isn't surprising but I don't take them seriously when it comes to economic subjects anyway.:rolleyes:
Jejoma
Using highly detailed statistical analysis these figure show that by the year 2027.69
Nokia will be the only mobile phone maker left on the planet.
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yade
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Has anyone read engadget's take on this? Not surprising, but how do they have the balls to do it!
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I saw this but what do you expect from iPhone loving Americans.
Unregistered
You can't polish a turd.
Unregistered
nokia is the next motorola.. dying a slow death because innovation at Nokia is non-existent.
Unregistered
"You can't polish a turd."
That doesn't stop AAS from trying.
iPhone - one carrier for one country sold by (mostly) one vendor outselling a seriously cheaper phone available on multpile carriers from multiple vendors in multiple countries.
Nokia should be seriously working on something to combat that certain smartphone IMO.
Oh and whoever said the 5800xm being the best selling MP3 player lmao don't make me laugh
Unregistered
How did aas access the conference of Nokia? Has steve et al. got shares in Nokia?
Unregistered
If they did have shares they wouldn't be so dismissive of those plummeting profits.
The Alliterator
LOL! Love it. Great results in a recession blowing away everything outside the US.
Nokia continues to confound the Nokia knockers and the Nokia knockers still find a way to twist it down. I think they doth protest too much.
If you don't like it don't buy it, and don't worry about it.
slitchfield
Profits are irrelevant. Well, not really, but they are in my eyes. Nokia have spent eye watering amounts of money on various things in the last few years, e.g. Navteq, so I won't shed a tear if Nokia say they're short of money. 8-) What matters to ME is how many devices they've shipped and of what types - in the long term, success is, as OPK said, about active users - and Nokia have far more than all its competitors here. I'm just heartened that S60 smartphone sales continue to rise, that Nokia's smartphone market share is rising, and so on.
Ammar_Dento
My humble notes
1. I guess Nseries sales are not effected by HTC,Palm,WM because they are Eseries competetors and this give Eseries kedos for there high sales (especially E71 and its brothers).
2. Low sales of Nseries isnt only because Apple (i can exclude NAM here),but why you forget Samsung?..and the upcomming Satio may change many things too...and i think Nokia themselves are trying to kill there own Nseries brand by pushing devices into public with beta firmwares,no video accelerator for Ngage & video,no Xenon flash and so on.
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no Xenon flash and so on.
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Yes because all N-series competitors have xenon flashes.
Oh, wait.....
quagmire
I find it interesting that the e-series outsold the n-series. Perhaps people are going to the e-series for the build quality?
@Rafe
Next time you speak with nokia people, could you ask them the future of e and n series? it seems as though the two are converging on many parts, like n-gage, messaging, and with the upcomming e72, the cameras as well. How do they plan on keeping both lines distinct from one another?
I would imagine that given the cost to develop a handset and maintain it with version upgrades, etc...that nokia would look to trim the product portfolio a bit? at least that would make sense, especially with the rehashes like n95/96/85/86. instead of an n79 and n82, just have one T9 candybar n-series, etc.....
thoughts?
JohnnyN
Where else can you read comments where one person is predicting the end of Nokia and another is saying that this is great news?
"nokia is the next motorola.. dying a slow death because innovation at Nokia is non-existent"
Seriously? I think people use this (very poor) argument only because the N95 was so innovative at the time and Nokia have not managed to "wow" people since it's release in the same way. Expectation and it's own hype have sullied it's name.
Samsung will have to do a lot more to eclipse Nokia than just release a rash of touchscreen devices with good cameras.
JohnnyN
Quagmire, I think Nokia have managed to chip away a large chunk of Blackberry sales with devices like the E71. Businesses have been embracing the E series, a lot like they did the 6 series.
Unregistered
Navteq was expensive, but if in 3-5 years time there are a billion Nokia devices running Ovi Maps 5 with a whole host of other location based services no-one has even thought of it will look like a very good buy.
Nokia knows they are playing catchup but don't underestimate their ability to innovate and re-shape the market.
tym79m
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Nokia are losing ground in the top class mobile,as they have not shown an improvement since the n95 but declining,n85 ,n96 an now n86 an n97 have all been mobiles that do meet the true value,why have nokia decide not to join the best camera mobiles nowdays seems really odd ,samsung an the others are showing nokia up an nokia do not seem to be bothered about losing customers,hope we see something more promising from nokia in the 4th quarter of this year or there sales will get worse as people will start buying other makes of mobiles
garbleart
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I don't think this is quite as rosy as it's painted here (nor is it the end of Nokia). The economic downturn is not exactly new news. For Nokia to be "cut[ting] its prediction for H2 2009 profitability and market share for 2009" hints at something going not well, especially when several other surveys of market confidence suggest that some elements of the economy are beginning a slow recovery.
I say this with the utmost respect for AAS and all the effort put in, but I do sometimes wonder if the site can stray into being more about what you hope Nokia will do, rather than what they actually do. I remember getting my Nokia 6630 a long time ago (2005) - quite a step up from the 3210 I had at that point. Some aspects of the interface were clunky, but hey - it was quite impressive, so I stuck with it. An N70 and an N95 later and I'm not seeing the improvement, and I'm frankly a bit shocked that N97 reviews are finding much of the same general things (slow interface, week processor, delays when switching between functions) to criticise about the phone as I did four years ago on the 6630. I don't think we'd tolerate that from any other company.
As my N95 gets increasingly sorry looking, and it's battery life seems to become more laughable despite a change in battery I look at what to get next. Assuming the closed nature of the iPhone doesn't appeal, I can pick the N97 or the HTC Hero. One looks incredibly more tempting than the other to me. I wonder how many others across the world are thinking this?
Of course Nokia make their money not just on smartphones, but on the whole market. But if Nokia's name doesn't have the cachet that comes from the leading devices, why will consumers seek out the mid-range phones?
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