AAS to Nokia: 23 suggestions for fixing and improving Ovi Store

Published by Ewan Spence, Tzer2 at 2:29 UTC, August 20th 2009

Summary:

We here at All About Symbian have been using Ovi Store for quite a while now, and have noticed a number of things that need to be fixed or could be improved.

We don't doubt the effort and resources that Nokia has put into this so far. However, we think it's fair to demand that Ovi Store lives up to the same general standards as other online content shops.

The Urgent Stuff First:

If Nokia is interested in Ovi Store's future then they need to get these two things dealt with straight away as they're causing damage to Ovi Store's reputation:

 

1. Why can't we redownload content we've already bought (on the same device)?

This is perhaps the most urgent and most baffling of all the things that need fixing with Ovi Store. For some inexplicable reason, there's no obvious way to re-download items which you've already purchased. This is baffling because all other content shops do allow re-downloads of purchased items, even Nokia's own N-Gage and Music Store services offer unlimited re-downloads, and their old Nokia Software Market site did too, so why doesn't Ovi Store?

Apart from anything else, the lack of re-downloads may well encourage people to seek out pirated content instead. The moral argument against piracy is that it fails to pay the people who have made the content. But what is immoral about downloading content that you've already bought legally on your device?

 

2. Stop redirecting to the "Item Unavailable" page. Instead, ask me what phone model I have before you choose one for me.

If you access Ovi Store through the mobile site or on-phone application it automatically detects the phone model you're using and only displays content which is compatible with that model. That makes sense.

If you access Ovi Store on your computer and you've logged in with your Nokia/Ovi account, it will only display content which is compatible with your selected phone. That also makes sense.

But if you visit Ovi Store on your computer without logging in, the site automatically chooses a phone on your behalf without asking or telling you about it. That means you can only see content compatible with that phone, and anything else you try to access just says "Item Unavailable", even if it is available. That doesn't make any sense at all.

Either new users should be prompted to choose a phone, or the site should display contents for all phones by default. But automatically selecting a model without the user's knowledge doesn't benefit anyone. As for the error message, it ought to say: "This item is in Ovi Store but is not currently available for the Nokia XXXX. Would you like to select a different phone model?".

We've heard some people say that Ovi Store's PC site isn't important because most users access Ovi Store through their phone, but that's ignoring the PC site's massive PR significance. It's the PC version of the Ovi Store site that will give a lot of people their first taste of what Ovi Store has to offer. Anything which makes the PC site awkward to use will put users and publishers off even trying Ovi Store.

 

...And now for some other gripes which aren't quite as urgent but are nonetheless annoying:

 

3. Why can't users install content via their PC?

Nokia's other content services including Nokia Music, Ovi Maps and N-Gage all allow content to be downloaded and installed via the user's computer. Why doesn't Ovi Store?

 

4. Why aren't there services to inform users of new content for their phone? What about some RSS feeds and Twitter channels?

Nokia has got content they want users to know about, so why don't they tell the users about the content? You could set up RSS feeds for each phone model, and this feed could be used to power an application/widget so that people have direct access to the latest content.

 

5. Why does the Ovi Store search system give such poor quality results?

Site search is absolutely vital on Ovi Store because the shop currently contains several thousand items and may soon contain tens of thousands of items. That's far too many to browse manually.

One of the search system's big failures is its inability to give results that are near misses, so for example "pac-man" produces results but "pacman" doesn't. How many people spell all their search terms exactly, letter-for-letter?

And even when you do correctly enter a search term letter-for-letter, it still goes wrong. At the time of writing a search for "Katamari" on Ovi Store's search engine returns no results. At first the problem seemed to be the model autoselection system mentioned above, but even when the model is set to Nokia 5800 we are still getting no results found:

Ovi Store



Despite the search results telling us it wasn't there, we were able to find Katamari Mobile by browsing through the Games section manually with the phone model set to Nokia 5800:

Ovi Store

It's there, but search doesn't think so.



...so the Ovi Store search engine is hiding content from users. How many potential Ovi Store customers have failed to use the service because they couldn't find their desired content?


And there's another problem with Ovi Store's search system: you might want to try browsing manually for something else by clicking on one of the main content buttons at the top of the screen. Let's say we've searched for "katamari" and now want to browse the applications section of Ovi Store, so you click on the "Applications" button at the top of the screen.

Clicking on the "Applications" button on the front page brings up a general index of apps, but here's what happens next if you click on the "Applications" button from a results page:

 

Nokia has used exactly the same button to do two totally different things: when browsing the top row of buttons, all lead to indexes of particular content types, but on search result pages the same buttons unexpectedly act as search result filters. These aren't the same things, so why are they using the same buttons? And why would a user want to look for the name of a game in a non-game section?

 

6. Why are the categories so well hidden?

After search, the other main way of finding content is by browsing categories. For example if you want to find card games you would go to the games section and then select the card games category.

This kind of category system does exist on Ovi Store, but it's so well hidden that many users seem to be unaware of its existence. This is true of the PC site, the mobile site and the application too, all of which require the user to take some action to reveal the categories instead of seeing them by default.

For example, on the PC site how do you think you find the games section's categories?



Give up? You actually have to click on the small grey arrow next to "Recommended":

Categories in Ovi Store


...which isn't very intuitive. Why would someone click on a small icon next to "Recommended" when they want to browse categories in "Games"?

The mobile site is almost as bad, with the categories hidden away at the bottom of the page, and the Ovi Store phone client hides them away in the Options menu. Why are they being hidden? Surely they should be very prominently visible on the front page? How else are people meant to explore the thousands of items on Ovi Store?

 

7. Where is the alphabetical index?

If the search engine and category system fail to do the job, you could always browse through an entire section manually to find for what you want... except you can't do that easily on Ovi Store because there's no alphabetical sorting option. This means that the only way to find something is to plough through the entire contents of a category from start to finish.

Surely a "sort by name" alphabetical option wouldn't be difficult to implement?

 

8. Why are demos listed separately from full versions?

A lot of publishers have chosen to publish free demo versions of their content on Ovi Store, but they're being forced to publish these demos on totally separate pages with no link to the full version anywhere. Wouldn't it make more sense to put a demo and its full version on the same page?

 

9. Where are the proper screenshots? Where are the videos?

Everyone likes to look at content screenshots before buying something for their phone, so why are the screenshots on Ovi Store so poor? Obviously, there might be problems with screenshots not matching every model, but the current screenshots don't match ANY models as they're just tiny excerpts of much larger images. At the very least, we ought to see a proper screenshot with the model number next to it, and ideally some system could be put in place that only displays screenshots for the currently-selected phone model.

Another increasingly popular way of reviewing content before purchase is to watch a video, so why aren't publishers allowed to post videos of their content? Nokia already owns a video hosting service they could use (Ovi Share) so there wouldn't be much extra infrastructure cost either.

 

10. Are the user reviews unmoderated?

At the moment Ovi Store's reviews sections contain a mixture of genuinely useful reviews and comments which aren't really reviews at all. For example here's a supposed review of Color Mixer by Gwen321:

"10adjt"

And here's a review of Tower Bloxx by Bongxjnh:

"Vananh"

The site also seems to be overrun with posts that don't actually review anything but just consist of rants about technology in general. For example an apparent Widsets fan posted this:

"F**k you ovi store you totally f**ked widset it f**king redirect me to this s**t wich is serious major pain in a**." (We've censored the swearing but Ovi Store hasn't.)

To make matters more confusing, there's a language filter for the reviews but it's switched off by default and reviews in many different languages are all displayed together.

 

11. Is a score out of 3 useful?

Users are able to rate items in Ovi Store with a score out of three, but is that really useful for anything? Surely that would almost always average out to two stars in the long term?

 

12. Why is the Ovi Store client's availability so restricted?

There is an Ovi Store client for the Nokia 5300, a non-smart phone from 2006, yet there doesn't seem to be a client available for the Nokia 6120 Classic, a smartphone from 2007. Why?

Apparently the Symbian version of the Ovi Store client is based on Web Runtime technology, which isn't present on slightly older smartphones. But if that's the case, why not offer non-runtime smartphones the Java-based client that the non-smart phones are using? The Java version of the Ovi Store client runs just as smoothly as the smartphone version, and in some respects actually looks a bit nicer.

Also, the availability of the Ovi Store client through Download! seems to be very inconsistent. This writer was able to get the Ovi Store client for the N95 through Download! in Finland, but Download! in the UK does not have the client at time of writing. What's going on?

 

...And some additional suggestions, for implementing in the Ovi Store team's tea-break:

 

13. Change the "Glad you enjoyed this" message to "Did you enjoy this?" or "Thank you for purchasing it"

The Ovi Store PC site currently displays the message "Glad you enjoyed this" next to every purchased item when you're logged in. Surely it would make more sense to ask whether customers enjoyed it, or just generally thank them for buying it?

 

14. Run an affiliate scheme so that media sites and bloggers can get a direct reward for promoting Ovi Store

Many existing application shops run affiliate schemes where websites can link to the shop's items and receive a cut of any purchases made as a result of those links. Running an affiliate scheme would be a cheap and easy way to get Ovi Store known and promoted on the internet.

 

15. Allow publishers to run their own mini-forum within Ovi Store

The heart of the whole Ovi brand is Nokia's attempt to become an online services company. Ovi Store is in competition with many rivals, not least the existing third party content shops that serve Nokia phones and smartphones.

One possible way to stand out from the crowd and build up a long-term relationship between Ovi Store publishers, Ovi Store users and Nokia would be to allow publishers to answer users' questions within Ovi Store through some form of simple mini-forum, perhaps using a modified version of the existing Ovi Store review system.

 

16. Set up some form of loyalty and/or discount system

Many phone content shops offer a loyalty scheme where regular customers can build up points, which eventually give them discounts or even free content. If other content shops can do this, then it seems plausible that it would be possible to offer a loyalty scheme on Ovi Store too.

This could either be run by Nokia directly, or perhaps the third party publishers could be given tools to run such schemes themselves (for example a publisher might want to run a "3 for the price of 2" sale).

 

17. Add a Nokia hardware section to Ovi Store

Nokia's already got a worldwide network of mail-order shops selling phones and accessories over the internet, which operates through their various local PC websites. As this sales infrastructure is already in place, why not make it a part of Ovi Store too? If you wanted a new pair of headphones for your mobile, you could just click on the Ovi Store icon and order some on the very phone they're intended for.

This would be another way of making Ovi Store stand out from the crowd.

 

18. Add an e-books section to Ovi Store

The latest Nokia devices have very large, very high resolution touchscreens which are well suited to electronic books. There are already e-books available through Ovi Store (the publisher Offscreen offers some for example) so why not give them their own section?

At present e-books are in the Utilities section of Applications, which doesn't really make any sense as books aren't applications or utilities.

 

One of Offscreen's e-books available in Ovi Store

 

19. Merge N-Gage into Ovi Store

Despite its critics, the N-Gage service has some very good stuff in it: exclusive well-reviewed and popular games, a loyal following on the N-Gage forums, and an online multiplayer infrastructure through Arena. However, it doesn't have the wide range of cheap games that most people seem to want from a download service. Ovi Store on the other hand has a wide range of cheap games but lacks quality exclusive titles, and doesn't have many online multiplayer games.

Given this situation, it would make sense to merge N-Gage into Ovi Store to get the best of both worlds in one place.

 

20. Why are the Themes and Podcasts sections only open to Nokia's "partners"?

Almost all of Ovi Store is open to all publishers, but certain sections (Themes, Podcasts, Ringtones and a few others) are reserved for a small number of large companies that presumably have some kind of exclusivity deal with Nokia. But why?

One of the most popular types of download is themes, all kinds of people love to use them, and geniuses like Babi love to make them, so why are people like Babi excluded from offering themes for download on Ovi Store?

Another popular download type is podcasting, and there are a large number of publishers (including several major public broadcasters) willing and able to provide free high quality podcasts on Ovi Store at a moment's notice.

From a publicity point of view, if Nokia wants very large raw download numbers to show off the success of Ovi Store, opening up themes and podcasts to all publishers would go a long way towards getting those numbers.

 

21. Why is the Ovi Store client so jerky?

The Nokia N95 can render the game Quake in real time, so why is the Ovi Store client so slow and jerky? All it has to do is move some lists of links around the screen, it's not the most difficult thing in the world. The client is clearly using hardware resources very inefficiently.

As noted earlier in this article, the Java version of the Ovi Store client runs at a similar speed to the S60 WRT version. Surely such a high profile service from Nokia should use a proper native S60 application as its client?

 

22. Change the startup page graphic from "Ovi" to "Ovi Store"

Nokia's got some people confused about what Ovi actually is, and some people seem to think it's just a content shop. It might help matters if the startup page of the phone client said "Ovi Store" instead of just "Ovi".

 

23. Have sales charts for each section

A lot of media coverage about services such as iTunes or Amazon are to do with trends in their sales charts, and it would be nice to see such charts on Ovi Store too. At the moment there's an option in Ovi Store to sort content by popularity, but it would be a lot more fun if there was a clear Top 10 for each section (for example the Top 10 Games etc).

Nokia already does this for N-Gage, why not do it for Ovi Store too? If third party publishers are concerned about revealing their sales numbers, these could be hidden. All that's required for charts are relative sales, not absolute numbers.

 

Tzer2 and Ewan Spence, All About Symbian, 25 August 2009


Please do let us know your own thoughts and suggestions in the comments.

 


 

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Platforms: Series 60, S60 3rd Edition, S60 5th Edition

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Discussion

Unregistered
I assume guys that you have sent feedpack directly to Nokia of these things?
But great article as always.
Will send this articles link to Nokia :)

Paul
Rafe
First I want to give Nokia some credit. They moved the categories entry on the Options menu to the top (from the bottom) in the mobile client. This happened, I think, when the client was updated around 6 weeks ago.

So let's have some more improvements.

It goes without saying that some of these issues will be addressed in version 2 of Ovi Store, but that doesn't stop customer ire now.

Furthermore there are some good reasons for these problems, but again a technical stop block will not wash with your average user. e.g. to allow redownloads to the same device you need to store the IMEI - this is only accessible in WRT 1.1 (i.e. with Platform services - 5800, N97, 5530, 5230)...

I can understand not allowing re-downloads on a different device to that which it was purchased on, but I do think developers should be given the choice of whether they license per device or per user... of course it is worth noting that other app stores allow re-downloads regardless of the device you are using.

Oh and this article applies to the consumer side, we'll cover the developer side of the Ovi Store in due course.
Unregistered
I second the message above - AAS is one of the strongest Symbian voices on the consumer side of things. You almost have a duty I'd say to push these points to the right ears in Nokia through whatever contacts or dare I even say backchannels you have. We as individual consumers don't have a fraction of the collective voice that AAS has with Nokia. Please make them fully aware!
ashu
Ovi Store has failed to excite me.

I would want them to read my phone and show contents based on categories. You don't need hell lot of categories.

Business
Utilities
Communications
Games
Fun Apps

Bundle all related softwares in simple categories so it becomes much easier for me to chose and go to the category I want.

The current lay out, lag all frustrate me.

I have been playing with a Blackberry Curve 8900 of a friend as I intended to trial it before buy and on that, the camera just sucks, but their app world is much better than Ovi.

the over all usage experience is just so much better. I am not a techie and I couldn;t find any difference in the music playing through it or my existing Nokia N79.

Nokia needs to realise the future does not lie in hardware excellence but in software revolution.

May switch ship to BB soon.

Am sorry, my comment may have got drifted from the original article.
Unregistered
Why it is so long to fix a problem? We cannot redowload app for several month now, it's a major drawback. A lot of potential buyers stay away from Ovi because of that. We can read people complaining in all the PDA's forum. This is an urgency for Nokia, but they do nothing for month. It's incomprehensible. Because there are so many people upset with this store, I think Nokia should communicate and tell to there customer base what's happen. Some explanation will help us to understand their lacke of reaction.
Omroth
The ovi store is a complete, unmitigated, joke.
rcadden
Awesome post. Here's my thoughts:

1. Duh
2. YES
3. I can see why they don't do this, honestly, but it is still annoying
4. Definitely should be available somewhere. At least something to tell what new apps have been added/updated
5. Yeah, the search blows.
6. Again, agreed.
7. Not sure I'd use an Alphabetical index, but it couldn't be hard to add, anyways.
8. For sure - the intent should be to convince users to switch from the demo to the full version - not choose one or the other.
9. Again, agreed. As of now, it's rather a guessing game when you download something, unless you've known about it previously. It's hard to 'discover' in the Ovi Store.
10. YES. Eliminate the useless reviews (and don't rely on users to report poor reviews - we have better things to do)
11. Agreed.
12. my Nokia N86 8MP Euro doesn't have a client, either - only a visual bookmark to the online store, with no option to download the client. WTF?
13. Agreed. Perhaps channel this info into the star rating?
14. This is why I don't link to the Ovi Store on S-G much - users get a better experience in our Symbian-Guru Store, and I make a commission. It's win-win for me to ignore the Ovi Store.
15. Not sure I'm on board with this one. Seems a bit much, and would only make the app more bulky.
16. This has been needed in N-Gage for a while, as well, but there's been no action/response from Nokia.
17. Again, not sure if this is necessary - seems it oversteps the bounds a bit, IMO, and would again add unnecessary bulk.
18. I've no doubt this is coming - I think, for now, the problem is the lack of eBook readers and fragmentation in Symbian ecosystem.
19. Agreed, though I've quit N-Gage till they fix several things.
20. YES YES YES YES YES. Nokia should be approaching all the big (and small) themers. It's such an active community - more active than the Symbian development community, IMO, and it's basically underground because Nokia's too blind to capitalize on it. They need to build relationships with these themers like Babi, Nahid, Larsson, Tehk7, and others.
21. Lol, again, agreed (love the Quake reference)
22. Sure.
23. Eh.
jcompagner
A simple thing like people who bought this also bought that....
Will also give users a bit more overview what things are all there.
mouserider
Very good and well laid out list. I'd like to post the experience I've had with Ovi Store support and developers...

Like many before me and I'm sure many after, I purchased several programs and then had a problem on my phone serious enough to have required a hard reset.

Having lost my purchases, I read a couple of posts on Nokia Discussions and decided to PM a Nokia staff contributor whom have offered assistance to many on the forum before. I provided him with proof-of-purchase and information such as my phone's IMEI and number.

Within a day, he had SMSed me a link which allowed me to re-download my apps.

Not perfect by any means but the response was appreciated and for a manual process, fast enough considering possible time differences.

Subsequently, I had an installation issue with Best Taskman. As the replacement link allowed my choice of drive location to install, I had unfortunately made the wrong choice of installing it on E: rather than C: on my N97.

This resulted in the app not properly auto-starting.

Sending a support request to SmartPhoneware, the developer, also resulted in a quick response.

They explained to me that Ovi purchases provided a "pre-licensed" version which doesn't contain or require their usual registration code and while I could download the binary again directly from them, there was no way for me to activate it.

They were kind enough to issue me a registration code which allowed me to re-download the package directly from them and be able to activate it. This of course, liberates me from the current re-download issues with Ovi Store as I now have a valid activation code for Best Taskman and the install package on my Mac which I can re-install on the same device anytime.

With DataViz's RoadSync, upgrading directly from DataViz's site didn't present any problems and because of the way the application works, they did have a record of my registration. The only problem is that every time the app needs to be reconfigured, it does not check for existing user records but just asks you to re-register, but in fairness, that's not Ovi's issue.


So Ovi is pretty far from perfect but there are temporary solutions to resolve the shortcomings for now.

For me, the savings did help ease the pain and make me a little more patient. I paid US$ 1.95 for Best Taskman (normally $7.95) and $9.99 for RoadSync (normally $49.95).

I would definitely go back to Ovi Store once they start improving their customer experience and support infrastructure.

Right now, I just try to stay with fee apps :)
JimH
The Ovi Store app on the 5800 seems to die after a few uses and starts up with "Script alert: Application initialisation failed.", you click ok and the app then closes.

Kudos for the UK-En spelling of initialisation, but needing to hard-reset the phone to get the Ovi Store app working again really sucks.

Just doing an uninstall/re-install of the Ovi Store app doesn't work.
Huschke
The biggest problem that Nokia has, is that they used to be a company that focused nearly entirely on hardware rather than software. And back in the old days it was ok to do that. Because back then, every phone iteration had even more technically stunning things packed into the device with an even smaller form factor.

Today we have reached a state where our phone does everything we want it to do and more. It guides us to where we want to go, it reminds us of important upcoming meetings or birthdays, it acts as our main music player, it lets us watch TV, hell it does everything the people in the 60s and 70s watching Kirk and his crew ever dreamed of doing.

So what do we want from a phone that does everything we ever wanted it to do and more? We want it to do it with style and ease!

And that’s exactly the part Nokia has trouble dealing with. Just look at the current S60 5th Edition UI. Its clunky, slow, unintuitive and sometimes even confusing, in short everything a UI should not be and although Nokia is taking baby steps in the right direction, I’m afraid baby steps just won’t cut it anymore.

If you ask me, Nokia should take the leap, make a clean slate and ditch the S60 UI altogether. If the Symbian kernel is any good and according to the some people it is, they could even keep it. Then they should strongly think about renaming Symbian into something else, because I think that too many people already have negative feelings associated with the Symbian brand.

I really hope someone at Nokia is doing that or even better hiring me to do this :)
I’m open to suggestions regarding new names btw :)
Zyyb
Great list and not at all unfixable, it seems that most of them could be done in a few days and would make the usability much better. Perhaps a category for newest apps too? Whenever I look at the Ovi store i go all the way through it as it seems so random!
Unregistered
The media selections need to allow for sample clips - scenes b4 purchase like itunes amazon and many other stores. Why would I buy a song or video without having a taste of what it is like? This is definitely holding this type of sales back.
shoobe01
#2 needs to be even better than you suggested. Lots of stores do this (filter by device type). Stupid. What about enticing to upgrade. Show results regardless, and just indicate that it doesn't work on your device. Tell WHY it doesn't work (it's for QWERTY phones, it requires a GPS, etc.) so they know that maybe they don't want it, or what they are missing out on.

Otherwise, my gripes are much more structural:
24) Everything Nokia offers has to be here. PC software, Maemo software, plugins, drivers, etc. Or, Ovi content moves somewhere else. Don't care. But Nokia needs to build that brand by consolidating. Nothing ruins your brand like pointless fragmentation and exposing internal process.

25) Everything gets a demo. EVERYTHING GETS A DEMO. Sure, everything also is required to have several screenshots (of it working, not splash screens!) and a video, but everything gets a full, downloadable demo. I don't care if, due to a short value proposition, it expires after 5 minutes, but you get to try and see how it really works.

26) Every single device gets launched with access to it. I don't care if it's some S30 device that cannot install anything. If it can run a ringtone, it gets ovi store access. Should be like putting a battery in the box. Do not launch without.

27) Clarify and expand pricing models. Buy function needs to have options for what to do. Bill me, pay with CC, pay via carrier, buy a package, buy a subscription, etc. Dropout is caused by friction and confusion, much more than price or anything. Do not confuse, and offer options the users want.
Bill Perry
Good feedback from everyone, keep it coming. I've forwarded this page to some members of the Ovi Store team.

Best - Bill
Jason Black
The points raised in this latest post about things to fix/work on in Ovi Store are all useful and valid. Like others have said, I will be sharing this with my Nokia peeps, too. It should be required reading. Thanks for the loads of good advice.
Unregistered
Only 10 apps / page is really annoying. It takes a long time to scroll through.
machone
Thanks for the great feedback; all your comments have been taken onboard, and you have everyone's attention!
Unregistered
The MOST POPULAR sort is crap. It doesn't work. It adds the most recently launched/updated apps to the top of the list.
Andélson
Please Rafe ask to Nokia that we need to know wich version the application is, exemple, I have Nimbuzz installed in my device, there is a link do download Nimbuzz on OVI Store, but is it newer than mine? How do I know?
deadkenny
Major points to add from me are:

1. Stop listing trial apps under free apps and add a trial category (with price for full version clearly stated).

2. Split the app store into two. One for teens after wallpapers and Hannah Montana Themes. One for the rest of us (though the latter will result in very few apps).

3. Make S60 app development easy. The reason why there's a vast amount of iPhone apps and a lot of good quality, is because they're simple to make. Very few people seem to be developing S60 apps, and those that do are the usual tacky mobile software houses that churn out endless tacky junk. What's missing is a good developer community focused on useful and productive apps rather than just chucking any old rubbish out to make a quick buck.

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