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How to free up space on disk C on the Nokia 5800 XpressMusic

Published by Steve Litchfield at 18:27 UTC, May 10th 2009

 

 

 


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Starting out with 88MB of flash memory on its internal disk ('C'), you'd think this would be enough for the Nokia 5800 XpressMusic. And it would be, in a perfect world. But intensive use (e.g. installing, trying and removing third party applications, web browsing of Flash-based web sites, map-using, using the built-in 'Device updates' system to upgrade the firmware over the air)  means that it's easy for these 88MB to disappear. From my own experiences, as much as 40MB (i.e. almost half the entire disk space) can be, apparently, 'lost'.

[text updated 10am Fri 15th May 2009, thanks to commenters on the piece who have contributed ideas!]

Before we get to the most drastic step, here are some easy ways to reclaim space (do make a note of your starting figure, as quoted in 'File Mgr' and then compare at each stage)

  • delete any known large attachments from Messaging and/or Nokia Messaging
     
  • delete any direct downloads you've done 
     
  • remove any trial applications you've installed to 'Internal memory'
     
  • use Y-Browser (or similar) to delete the '\cache' folder on C: (deleting the cache from inside Web isn't as reliable)
     
  • (if a Google Maps user) use 'Options | Tools | Reset' - this frees up memory used for cached maps
     
  • again in Y-Browser, delete 'C:\system\temp' , there are sometimes Megabytes of .SWF (Flash) files here

 

 


 

The text below is for situations where you've run through the list above and deleted everything non-essential that you can think of and yet you know you're still (potentially) tens of Megabytes 'short'.

Here's how to reclaim as much space as possible of your Nokia 5800's internal flash memory.

  1. Go into 'File Mgr'. You'll find this in the 'Applications' folder. Note the current free disk space on 'C' (often labelled 'Phone memory').
     
  2. Double-tap on 'Backup' and check that 'Backup contents' is set to 'All'.
     
  3. Use 'Options | Back up now' to do a backup (to card). You can say 'Yes' to the prompt about overwriting a previous backup, if applicable.
     
    Nokia 5800 Screenshot Nokia 5800 Screenshot
     
    It's also now a good idea to check that you know which applications you've installed to disk C and that you know where to download/restore the SIS files from - in case you have to reinstall at the end of the procedure.
     
  4. When finished (the backup takes a couple of minutes to run), go to the dial pad (on the home screen) and tap out *#7370#, the 'hard reset' sequence for S60 phones. Effectively, this completely wipes the C disk and forces the Operating System to start its system folders from scratch. Your phone will restart as part of this sequence and note that the startup will take a bit longer than usual.
     
    PS. The 'lock code' for a Nokia handset is '12345', unless you've changed it or unless you have a
    network-branded phone and the network has changed it!!
     
    Nokia 5800 Screenshot
     
  5. Once restarted, go back to 'File Mgr', to check free space on disk C again (about 88MB, but this will vary according to the exact 5800 variant you own)
     
  6. Tap on 'Backup' again, but then tap on 'Options | Restore'.
     
  7. Check all the content boxes and then tap on 'OK'. Wait while your data, settings and applications are restored from the backup.
     
    Nokia 5800 Screenshot
     
  8. Restart the phone.
     
  9. Go back into 'File Mgr' and you should see that you now have significantly more free disk space on 'C'.
     

You should now be up and running, but may have to complete the following steps:

 

  • Reinstate your Bluetooth pairings (e.g. with your headset and desktop
     
  • Re-organise your application folders again, if needed, as the assignments of apps to folders will have been reset to the default. So you'll need to fiddle with these.
     
  • Re-install any applications that had been installed to disk C, if needed. Google Maps is one that you will need to do.

 

Phew! Depending on how much you had to do, you've still earnt yourself a coffee or beer! Most importantly, you've had a good spring clean and have a lot more space to play with on your phone's internal memory.

(C) Steve Litchfield, All About Symbian


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Categories: How To, Hardware
Platforms: S60 5th Edition

Feature Discussion

Unregistered
40MB more would be great, but I doubt, I'll get that much back on my 5800XM. Too many Apps installed.

What I do regularly:
- I surf a lot on WiFi, so clearing the browser cache usually brings back some MBs.
- Google Maps also caches it's data, so resetting the app "options -> tools -> reset..." frees up memory (~10MB in my case, somewhat heavy gm user)

Now if only you could delete the preinstalled games... :-(
slitchfield
Thanks, good extra tips! I may add them to the main article once we've got some more comments and feedback in 8-)
Unregistered
Install a 3rd party file manager, go to c:system-temp, and delete everythg. Lots of swf files from internet surfing.
Unregistered
This was looking good at first with 77.1MB free on C:
But when I tried to restore my backup from the microSD card. I then got "file manager: memory full" error message followed by one telling me the phone will restart... Any ideas?
Unregistered
While trying to restore my files I get "Out of RAM." or whatever the direct translation would be.

How am I supposed to restore all my bloody apps now?!
jApi NL
Doesn't the 5800XM have an option in Messaging like in S60 V3 : Options > Settings > Others > Memory in Use > Device/Card ? This in order to save C: Memory .
:) Regards jApi NL
slitchfield
Ouch, sorry to hear of the 'memory full' errors.... I have NO idea why you should get that - you're restoring into (if anything) a larger disk space than the backup was taken from!!

What happens if you only choose selected content types as part of the restore? And try power cycling the phone before the restore etc.
Unregistered
That's kinda what I'm trying, and every other restore option works great, it's only the last, "Files" that's troublesome. And truth be told, it's the most important one.
jApi NL
I also think a third party application called Y-Task works in 5800XM .
http://www.drjukka.com/YTasks.html
In the Memorystatus-plugin you can do a fast RAM-compression : Options > Compress RAM .
:) Regards jApi NL
Unregistered
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
This was looking good at first with 77.1MB free on C:
But when I tried to restore my backup from the microSD card. I then got "file manager: memory full" error message followed by one telling me the phone will restart... Any ideas?
Phew that was a bit buttock-clenching for a few mins but I've managed to get my data back from a Nokia PC Suite backup I did 3 days ago (so glad I make regular backups!). Everything seems to be back to normal except I lost my contacts bar entries and the PhoneTorch app for some reason.

Yes, strange I (and it seems at least one other person) got a low memory message even though we've actually freed memory. Mine's now up from 48MB to 62MB.

If it's of any interest my "blue" 5800 came with v11 and is now on v20.
Unregistered
the drawback to this, is using the "restore" to unorthodoxly(its a word, look it up) reinstall previously installed apps may have function errors compared to a freshly installed app. think of windows restore system also. not foolproof but a good idea. i guess.
krisq
Delete 'cache' folder on c:. Boom! Instant 15mb more. Clearing cache from browser's options does almost nothing.
slitchfield
@krisq: another interesting observation. Will build all these into a revised article, methinks..... Cheers, all!
Super Chimp
Thanks for this, it worked very well I gained back almost 10mb. Didn't work so well with my i8510, I only gained back 6mb and that has even less free memory than the 5800XM.
Unregistered
Hi!

I followed your instructions to the tee! anyway, when I tried to restore everything I got the "memory full" message too. So I went back in and restored everything separately. The only thing I can't restore is Files - it now says error every time I try and restore them.

So - can you help please?!!

Also, I know this isn't that important, but before my backup and restore, I had Nimbuzz installed on my phone and was loving it! Since the restore, it won't install at all! any ideas?

Thanks!
jApi NL
As mentioned above , using third party apps like Y-Browser or X-Plore , go to C:\system\temp , there is sometimes MB's of .SWF . These are also deleted by rebooting (restarting) the Phone .
There can be a heavy load in C:\system\dmgr\...number...\contents\ , as well .
:) Regards jApi NL
Unregistered
as i mentioned earlier, a restore can cause a faulty app.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
Hi!

I followed your instructions to the tee! anyway, when I tried to restore everything I got the "memory full" message too. So I went back in and restored everything separately. The only thing I can't restore is Files - it now says error every time I try and restore them.

So - can you help please?!!

Also, I know this isn't that important, but before my backup and restore, I had Nimbuzz installed on my phone and was loving it! Since the restore, it won't install at all! any ideas?

Thanks!
Unregistered
I REPEAT, DO NOT DO THIS!

After following the instructions I got the infamous now "Not enough RAM. Close some applications first". But not only that. It also messed up my modem (I can't access internet thru AT&T's internet or thru Wi-Fi). Both AT&T (my service provider in the US) and Nokia have NO IDEA how to fix it. I might be having to ship it tomorrow to them (Nokia) to fix it. They said it's the only way. Again, DO NOT DO THIS. The representative at Nokia said it was foolish to backup in the phones memory, it would've been smarter to do it in a PC.
Unregistered
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
I REPEAT, DO NOT DO THIS!

After following the instructions I got the infamous now "Not enough RAM. Close some applications first". But not only that. It also messed up my modem (I can't access internet thru AT&T's internet or thru Wi-Fi). Both AT&T (my service provider in the US) and Nokia have NO IDEA how to fix it. I might be having to ship it tomorrow to them (Nokia) to fix it. They said it's the only way. Again, DO NOT DO THIS. The representative at Nokia said it was foolish to backup in the phones memory, it would've been smarter to do it in a PC.
*#*#*#*#*ISSUE RESOLVED*#*#*#*#*

OK, first of all, sorry for rushing and blaming this entry. Although partially guilty, it had some other unforeseen events. Secondly, thank God I managed to resolve it. This is how/why:



I had downloaded (as many of you might) a little app named Kaspersky Mobile Security. After the backup/hardreset/hardrestore session, this app (KMS) failed to be restored. Some how it was blocking the internet access. If you have the same problem the steps to follow are very simple:

1. Re-install KMS.
2. That's it! After you're done re-installing it, reboot the phone and Shazam! it should be back and running and all good.

Sorry again, and you're welcome if this thread solved your issue.
munkimatt
Just a quiet word of warning here which in no way points a finger of blame anywhere!

Just recently completed this method and freed up 40mb. Afterwards I realised Gravity no longer worked despite the icon showing in appications so I downloaded the app again and re-installed. Straight after I realised I was no longer receiving texts and in order to force messages through to the handset I had to perform reboot after reboot. The problem has only been resolved after performing a full reset of the phone (GREEN+RED+CAMERA while booting).

Like I said, no blame involed here, maybe just a suggestion that you remove your apps before proceeding with this.
slitchfield
Thanks for the report. Google Maps was another casualty here and needed to be reinstalled. Not a huge problem though.

The SMS problem is plain weird though - sounds more like a corruption or glitch in your OS installation. Anyone else?
Unregistered
Quote:
Originally Posted by slitchfield View Post
The SMS problem is plain weird though - sounds more like a corruption or glitch in your OS installation. Anyone else?
Could well be what you say although I did try re-installing the OS via NSU. V21 loaded back onto the handset fine but SMS problem wasn't fixed, it took the big 'Nuke Your Phone' reset to solve.

An odd one for sure. I'm tempted to see if I can replicate.
Alvinpp
Just a warning to those who would like to try this method.

The following happens after I reinstall from backup:
- lost my dictionary additional language pack
- lost FRING app
- lost Total Recall app
- lost NIMBUZZ app
- some settings etc

seems like this backup does not backup everything.

so I think some of the mb I "recovered" is due to all those lost apps.
eleffie
delete any SMS's pushed by bluetooth file transfer, it is in the usual place where sms's r saved
this way freed up 20megs on my device , rather than the other tips in greate article.
Unregistered
Hi i del data/wscache instead of system cache wat to do will anything go wrong

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