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The Nokia N86 8MP gets v30 firmware update
Published by Steve Litchfield at 11:12 UTC, April 15th 2010
Arguably the last firmware date for the Nokia N86 8MP, but extremely welcome anyway, version 30.009 firmware mainly features the latest Ovi Maps client and is now available via Nokia Software Update (142MB) and soon Over The Air as well in most regions. The usual caveats about network-branded phones getting this at a later date apply, as do taking precautions by backing up first - just in case. More details and screens below.
Version 30.009 is described by Nokia as a 'Maintenance' update:
- includes the latest Ovi Maps 3.3 (with free navigation)
- includes the sharing of location via Facebook
- Nokia Messaging improvements and fixes (apparently)
- RealPlayer interface tweaked
- the usual minor fixes and improvements (v30 seems rock solid so far)
Can you add to this changelog? What else have you noticed that is new?
Notice the backup warnings on the NSU screenshot. Although, in theory, you can update firmware 'in place', with User Data Preservation, regular readers will know that I usually recommend hard resetting phones after a major firmware update, followed by restoring user data and then reinstalling apps as needed - for that 'fresh and fast' performance. Not least because your existing installations of Ovi Maps and Nokia Messaging (etc) are now duplicated by apps in the main firmware.
Minor glitches after a hard reset involved the screen being ultra-dim until I'd explicitly gone into Settings to change the brightness, and display auto-rotation not working until I'd done an additional phone restart. Technology, eh? These devices are so complex under the hood!
Steve Litchfield
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Unregistered
Too late. Sold mine.
Unregistered
At least please push the firmware updates to all the product codes of N97. :(
djmuzi
Still only v20 for me available OTA :( :icon13: recently via Ovi Suiteonly v21
Pawlee
wow, still supporting this phone with updates? im shocked...
wonder how long it will take o2 to approve this one
wonder how long it will take o2 to approve this one
Recidivist
Good news! :)
What makes you say "arguably the last" though Steve?
What makes you say "arguably the last" though Steve?
slitchfield
Only because my sources told me two updates ago that there might be two more updates. And this is the second 8-)
timsalmon
Using Mail for Exchange and www.nuevasync.com as the go-between, the N86 now enables ongoing syncs of Calendar, Contacts and Email as instructed WITHOUT the silly annoying message being thrown up at every subsequent re-sync as reported at http://timsalmon.blogspot.com/2009/1...ves-me-to.html in December 2009. At last!
The Email Setup still had to be 'duped' however, into allowing a MfE account to be setup - put a 'bogus' email address in during setup to force Nokia Messaging not to take over and subsequently not allow MfE for Contacts and Calendar.
The N86 is now much more usable for me as more than just a telephone, top-notch camera and Symbian plaything. It talks properly to the Google Servers (via a 3rd party, granted).
The Email Setup still had to be 'duped' however, into allowing a MfE account to be setup - put a 'bogus' email address in during setup to force Nokia Messaging not to take over and subsequently not allow MfE for Contacts and Calendar.
The N86 is now much more usable for me as more than just a telephone, top-notch camera and Symbian plaything. It talks properly to the Google Servers (via a 3rd party, granted).
tramfan
:mad:My N86, on contract with Orange, is still on V11.043. Software update claims that the software is all up to date. Come on Orange, get your act together!
RS77
How about free RAM and free phone memory on C:?
alsiladka
v21 also had v2.1.0 of Nokia Messaging steve. If v30 has the same version, then I don't think the client has been update.
There's no option to enable HTML view by default, is there?
There's no option to enable HTML view by default, is there?
DamianDinning
OTA may be a little while longer. Check NSU.
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Unregistered
Updating, will let you know, btw i have installed maps already, will i need to delete or its fine like this only??
Davis Fields
Steve, thanks for reaching out. We'll get our team to take a quick look at your account and figure out what's going on.
-Davis Fields
Nokia Messaging
-Davis Fields
Nokia Messaging
megapack162
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Originally Posted by tramfan
:mad:My N86, on contract with Orange, is still on V11.043. Software update claims that the software is all up to date. Come on Orange, get your act together!
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I have twice contacted them about updates given the massive improvements around Face Detection and Free Ovi Maps 3.0.3 (I finally decided to install the version for the 6730 Classic) and was told that they didn't have any ideas when and indeed if they would ever be approving any further updates for the N86 as it was now classed as a discontinued handset.
I can't even update the software or applications using FOTA because the server connection times out and I can't edit any profiles because they're hidden. It worked when I updated from 10.086 to 11.043 but has been broken ever since.
I've been an Orange contract user for nearly 15 years but the way that they've been treating their customers as regards handset updates is atrocious. You end up tied to an 18 or 24 month contract with a phone that is stuck on the buggy initial or early versions and the only option is to get the handset swapped out for another identical one.
A store staff member told me that they will swap you onto a new handset of your choice after 3 replacements but to be honest, there are no suitable replacements at the moment.
:mad::mad::mad:
rafiii
If you have installed Maps already you won't need to uninstall it, you even gain some megabytes ( I jumped from 36 to 45).
For the fun I did a hard reset and reinstalled all my application and saves. I have now 58 MB of free space on C:
Ok so what about the new firmware?
Yes ovi maps 3.3 is here, the phone is (according to me) faster. Transitions from landscape to portrait are faster, the menu/application seems to be loaded faster (I just went to tools-> parameters and noticed the difference).
At last Nokia Messaging shows the last message on the home screen and I have no problem with French special characters like é or â like I had in previous firmwares.
And finaly, probably the best thing, THE D-PAD CAN NOW BE USED TO GO FORWARD AND BACKWARD IN REALPLAYER!!! WOUHOU!!!
This functionality had disappeared in the firmware v20 and v21 but now it is back!
I would say good job Nokia :D What am I going to do with all that free space on C: ? Maybe I will install QuickOffice 6 :)
For the fun I did a hard reset and reinstalled all my application and saves. I have now 58 MB of free space on C:
Ok so what about the new firmware?
Yes ovi maps 3.3 is here, the phone is (according to me) faster. Transitions from landscape to portrait are faster, the menu/application seems to be loaded faster (I just went to tools-> parameters and noticed the difference).
At last Nokia Messaging shows the last message on the home screen and I have no problem with French special characters like é or â like I had in previous firmwares.
And finaly, probably the best thing, THE D-PAD CAN NOW BE USED TO GO FORWARD AND BACKWARD IN REALPLAYER!!! WOUHOU!!!
This functionality had disappeared in the firmware v20 and v21 but now it is back!
I would say good job Nokia :D What am I going to do with all that free space on C: ? Maybe I will install QuickOffice 6 :)
_fakefur
wish i could get my N86 to update ... every time it still tells me that my phone is disconnected and to check my USBport etc etc ... OTA only tells me to update via PC ... i've tried OVI and NSU and both fail every time *sigh*
snak
widehead
Updated here in Manila straight away. I think it's simply outrageous that some of the forum members are denied the updates due to their service providers. Ah well. Here's hoping that the phone wont be ignored in the future. It would be criminal of Nokia to sideline what is clearly their best available phone.
_fakefur
*sigh* ... same old same old with trying to update ... OTA sees it and tells me to use NSU ... NSU tells me 11.043 is the latest
unlocked SIM free phone here bought retail
this and email are why i hate this phone ... the rest is great but since email is almost #1 for me i just get exceedingly frustrated
oh well my htc desire rocks at least
unlocked SIM free phone here bought retail
this and email are why i hate this phone ... the rest is great but since email is almost #1 for me i just get exceedingly frustrated
oh well my htc desire rocks at least
RS77
Unregistered
Confirmed - N86 has been improved performance wise with v30, quicker, no lagging, and more RAM and Phone Memory optimization.
Free RAM 56.3, and Free Phone Memory 48.9 - UDP restored all previous installs & setting ok!
Free RAM 56.3, and Free Phone Memory 48.9 - UDP restored all previous installs & setting ok!
ansgp
some latest observations:
1. camera application startup time (after opening of lens cover, theme effects off)- before update: 4-5sec and now almost instant :~1sec
2. shot to shot time is same after update
3. dpad problem is still there: video can't be forwarded or reversed using dpad in landscape mode. No such problem in portrait mode.
4. camera bug (camera application dosen't close after shutter close, jbacktask manager shows it) still there.
5. ovi maps 3.3 now integrated in firmware, so no loss in phone memory to get maps 3.3
6. autorotation bug (half screen freeze during rotation, when theme effects is on) still there.
7. no "free ram" increase after update
8. free phone memory after update: 51.6MB, with about 50 applications installed (ngage uninstalled).
1. camera application startup time (after opening of lens cover, theme effects off)- before update: 4-5sec and now almost instant :~1sec
2. shot to shot time is same after update
3. dpad problem is still there: video can't be forwarded or reversed using dpad in landscape mode. No such problem in portrait mode.
4. camera bug (camera application dosen't close after shutter close, jbacktask manager shows it) still there.
5. ovi maps 3.3 now integrated in firmware, so no loss in phone memory to get maps 3.3
6. autorotation bug (half screen freeze during rotation, when theme effects is on) still there.
7. no "free ram" increase after update
8. free phone memory after update: 51.6MB, with about 50 applications installed (ngage uninstalled).
rafiii
Yes the dpad works perfectly well in landscape mode now. I just tried it.
ansgp
yes dpad works properly via real player in both landscape and portrait view but when we are playing videos from menu->photos->camera/all, then in landscape mode it dosent work.
9. theme effects are very fast now. Dosent slow up the phone
10. overall device is very fast and responsive now
9. theme effects are very fast now. Dosent slow up the phone
10. overall device is very fast and responsive now
Unregistered
Quote:
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Originally Posted by _fakefur
*sigh* ... same old same old with trying to update ... OTA sees it and tells me to use NSU ... NSU tells me 11.043 is the latest
unlocked SIM free phone here bought retail this and email are why i hate this phone ... the rest is great but since email is almost #1 for me i just get exceedingly frustrated oh well my htc desire rocks at least |
Why have you not changed the product code to allow it to update firmware?
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