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“Lou, Lou, I want that one…”

Published by Ewan Spence at 12:50 GMT, February 25th 2010

Sometimes you say something and it gets a bit out of hand, the reaction isn't what you expect. That happens in the All About Symbian (virtual) staff-room as well. So what happens when a new updated (and known controversial) app comes in such as MyPhone to be considered? Ewan lets loose on the pointlessness of making your phone look like one from a completely different platform, that's what...

It shouldn’t be a surprise to readers that the team at All About Symbian share many links to stories, software and hardware before deciding what to write about. Sometimes it’s obvious, with new hardware arriving or a major announcement from a company. Sometimes it’s less so, a new game, interesting comments or blog posts; and sometimes it’s just an instant reaction.

Such as Steve pointing out the latest version of MyPhone to me: “why don’t you have a look at that, Ewan?”

So I did. And I have to ask why? And not specifically at MyPhone, but at the whole industry of Humphrey Lyttletoning your handset.

If you wanted to have an iPhone, then just go and buy a sodding iPhone!

The same with wanting a Google device theme on your handset, or the wallpaper from Windows XP as your homescreen, lifting the Start button to be the soft key icon on your 5800. There seems to be a huge industry promoting “one phone to the tune of another” in almost all the application stores out there.

Interestingly, I don’t see a “Make your iPhone like an N97” app in the Apple walled garden. I’d prefer to think of this as conspiracy by Steve Jobs rather than a lack of jealousy, but I’m sure you’ll argue about this in the comments.

Now there are some good reasons that you might want to consider having a replacement look and feel UI on your phone – perhaps you’re not comfortable with your smartphone because you’ve got to use Phone A at your company and you prefer Phone B; there’s peer pressure on you to have a different type of phone and this is the cheapest way to fake it and not get bullied; maybe it’s part of an elaborate prank you're trying to pull.

Lou and Andy
Is Little Britian the best description of our fascination with other themes?

Mostly I think it’s part of the nature of power users to just fiddle around because they can, but what amazes me is not the number of utilities for sale to change the UI to something new, but the screensavers, themes, icon replacers and everything else that changes the ephemeral look of the phone to something else.

What is it that happens when someone picks up a new phone that you want to make it like another phone? Are you scared that you bought the wrong device and have no confidence in the research you did?

Monty Python’s Life of Brian proclaimed that “you’re all different!” and this is the beauty of the modern smartphone world. Your device can be personalised to a much greater extent than those first mobile devices ever could; you can make them your own…

Mind you, that same film also had the whole crowd answering back, in perfect unison: “yes we are all different.” I just think it’s such a shame that by being different we sometimes decide to join another group altogether.

-- Ewan Spence, Feb 2010.

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News Discussion

Pawlee
I have to admit I'm a victim of this...

... Both my n82 and n86 are using a theme to make them look like the 5800 blue wave theme

:tongue:

hehe
Unregistered
I love to change the themes on my 5800, and I always did that in all my oldest phones, since the s40 one. I really appreciate this feature on Symbian phones, but I never put an Iphone's whatever thing, because If I liked something in the Iphone, I would have bought one. So why change my way to use the Symbian environment, if is exactly what I like?
Unregistered
the only reason I would add this is the fact you can scroll the screen sideways to access all your apps somethink that symbian ^3 has added or near to ;) with multiple homescreens. I would never buy a dam Iphone why should I have to hack a smartphone to get it to multi task is beyond me.... this IMO dose not make the Iphone very smart atall :0
Unregistered
Themes are one thing, particularly because S60 is designed to use them, but running an emulator on top of the UI is pretty much a guaranteed way to slow things down and kill the battery.

So why are people doing it?

- The iPhone is expensive, but people want an iPhone.

- S60v5 is not seen as being anywhere close to the cutting edge of mobile OS UI. The Iphone OS UI is.

- The phone may be easier to use with the emulator switched on.

Irrespective of the right or wrongs in the arguments, I'd say that the fact that such an application can gather enough of a market to keep up development suggests that Nokia have been doing a lot very wrong.

I'm hoping Symbian fixes that.
Jimmy1
Wall paper themes are one thing, but the reason people use a UI shell is due to a fault in the standard user interface software. Sorry, but that's the truth.

Why do you think SPB Mobile Shell was hugely popular on Windows Mobile for so long? It made the clunky, PC desktop-ish UI, bearable and usable. I'm glad to see Mobile Shell now supports Symbian, though I'm not sure how it'll run on 128 mb of RAM, the standard in Nokia smart phones.
Jimmy1
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Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
the only reason I would add this is the fact you can scroll the screen sideways to access all your apps somethink that symbian ^3 has added or near to ;) with multiple homescreens. I would never buy a dam Iphone why should I have to hack a smartphone to get it to multi task is beyond me.... this IMO dose not make the Iphone very smart atall :0
Hunh. Well, don't many users hack their Symbian phones in order to be able to install unsigned applications?

Also, S60v3 phones, like the E71, multi-task fine. S60v5 phones with tiny amounts of RAM? Not so much. You're essentially forced to use, like an iPhone, one app at a time.
Unregistered
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Originally Posted by Jimmy1 View Post
Hunh. Well, don't many users hack their Symbian phones in order to be able to install unsigned applications?

Also, S60v3 phones, like the E71, multi-task fine. S60v5 phones with tiny amounts of RAM? Not so much. You're essentially forced to use, like an iPhone, one app at a time.
1. Symbian phones are hacked to get around the app signing yes, but that is for different reasons and you have to do that on the iPhone anyway to avoid the app store route. It is not necessary to hack a Symbian phone to load unsigned apps because you can sign them yourself, using a hacked certificate.

You are NOT forced to use one app at a time on S60V5, I use many more. But that's not the point. On a Symbian phone, if you receive a text you just head into messaging, read it and and reply and then go back to your original task exactly where you were. On iPhone, you have spent some time in an app, done some stuff - or maybe you are in a game and got a score going. A text arrives, to reply you change to messaging, your original app is shut down and you have to restart from the beginning. That is the definition of shite.

Try going into an app with location services, when you have got location switched off (to try to reduce the ridiculous battery drain) the app will offer to switch on location, head off into settings and shut the original app down. That's just crap. Hopefully iPhone 4 will fix this.
ashu
No hanky panky for me here! frankly, I have never felt the urge of changing my themes from the default ones and if I do, it's only from the stored themes only. It actually saves RAM.
daos
First of all, there is nothing terrible in trying to copy some features or looks or anything from one thing to another. It is done for hundreds years in any area of human activity - just look at cars, paintings, songs etc.
Second, any phone has its pluses and minuses, but if one can add some missing good feature to one's phone, why not. Mind you, it is irrelevant to argue, which interface is better. Again in my opinion Iphone homescreen with ability to flick between pages is great, but only if we have to see no less then 9 icones and no more then 27. In 1 case the native s60 menu is more then enough, in 2 case it is quicker to get to needed program via s60 structure, then flicking countless pages in Iphone like menu.
Unregistered
One thing, that I want is that Symbian never abandon is its s60`s folders of Menu System. I been Used it, and almost always have only 12 itens in each menu screen. My phone, my way, my paths.
comnut
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Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
why should I have to hack a smartphone to get it to multi task
you oviously have not explored the features of the 5800!!!

It ALREADY multi-tasks!! mine will play a music track, at the same time as ALL these! :)
downloading a podcast and listing new ones.
surf the web using opera mobile.
check the webpage using the nokia browser.
compose a big txt message.
check file details using x-plore...


and many more... :)

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