Actually the 5530XM was the first S60 5th phone to have kinetic scrolling implemented in all windows, in browser, contacts, music player and gallery, even before the v2 update for the N97 or the N97 mini's release 8-|

Kinetic scrolling seems to be everywhere but not in the applications menu.
Also, ,you saying updated OVi maps....there is no OVI maps preinstalled on this phone,
i know cause i got it.

Regards

Yes, I meant that v20 doesn't imply that ALL screens now have kinetic scrolling, as on the N97. Having to use a fiddly scroll bar in a large list of Apps still grates.... 8-(

And, interestingly, my 5530 has Maps installed now. Hmm.... I don't *think* I manually put it on when I got the phone a month or so ago. I'm 90% sure it appeared with v20. Can anyone else provide data points here? My 5530 is an unbranded, unlocked model, of course.

5530XM has kinetic scrolling in browser? I don't think so Rita, check again. It's same stupid scrolling as in a 5800XM.

Even on the n97 v2.0 there is a couple places where there is no kinetic scrolling.

Its usually the pop up information menus. In Update, the info menu about each update does't have it. And in the installled applications, the info menu about each app installed doesn't have.

So maybe they forgot that type of menu.

It does have Kynetic Scrolling since day one on the browser, this firmware added some stuff

Ovi Maps
Ovi Store (my last firmware didn't had the store installed)
Nokia Music
Ovi Contacts (wich I don't use)
A better scrolling contacts bar
More free ram 42 mb, it was 37

Does 5530 gives an low ram errors? Should not it if it still has 42ish mb free ram on boot up which is comparable to that on n97 or n97 mini? I read somewhere that 5530 didnt have ram problems.

It's all about expectations. Used as a phone and lightweight apps, a 5530 will NEVER show a RAM message/error.

The N97/N97 mini, on the other hand, is used as a power tool by geeks (like me) and we do keep hammering the processor and RAM and expecting it to be monstrous. And we end up being a bit disappointed.

Oh if Nokia had only fitted 256MB to the N97....

what product codes is this for as it does not tell me an update is available, unbranded from CPW

Hi Steve,
I cant find the article which you wrote quite some time ago in which you compared diagrams of screen sizes by overlying them over each other. Each unique screen size had a different color and it created a good reference chart for comparing different display sizes.

I have a n95-8gb which had a 2.8 inch display. I wanted to explore S60 5th edition without shelling too much money. Hence the only options are 5800, 5530 and 5230. Wifi is a must for me as I dont use 3g net (financial issues). 5230 is hence out of the picture. I need kinetic scrolling and stable software and in that regards 5530 takes over 5800. The only downside I feel that 5530 has its 2.9 inch screen compared to the 3.2 on 5800. Wanted to know how much difference does it make? Also is 2.9 inch on 5530 a bit more longer than it is supposed to be when compared to the one on N95 8gb as 5530 is less wide compared to N958gb and that would mean more length to compensate for a shrunken diagonal. Please let me know.

embrace for a rant. I hate Nokia's illogical strategies when they release their "flagships." Specifically in regards to N86. Would it have been problematic if they made that display 2.8 inches? Heck, even fitting a 3.0 inches was possible... Why did they degrade an otherwise "upgrade" model when compared to the likes of N95-8gb in terms of display size? Why does Nokia pick and choose when releasing new models? Especially those with premium prices? Why degrade some aspects from their previous successor and add few more? I would but N86 in a heart beat if it had at least 2.8 inch display and a graphics chip. Now ill wait till it becomes a tad cheaper. Same with 5530! For God's sake keep the display at 3.2 inches and just take that gps/3g out. Why 5230 gets 3.2 inch display .... stupid Nokia but I still love you. Your magic.
end of rant.

why oh why have cpw got their own variant?

and I have just ran the 6 above product codes through nokias can I update and they all say latest update is v11

the Euro 1 variant is the only one I found so far to have v20

hey i have a nokia 5530 but i don't know if i should update it. Is it true that the phone doesn't work properly after updating(gets stuck) ? Please i need help.

i updated, afterthat i cant install or uninstall anything error msg is "installer already in used". i also dont know how can i solve this problem.

I can confirm that the Ovi Maps are new after fw update. Unfortunatelly if you are trying to download Ovi maps over Ovi store, then you will see that the phone is not supported. It is the same in both, first and last, fw versions which I tried.

iam from india.. i have updated my 5530xm to v20.xx its working perfectly fine.. there are absolutely no issues regarding the installer or phone stucking.. new features added are: Maps,Phone Setup, Ovi store, Ovi contacts. The performance has been increased as compared to the first update v11.xx .

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