Getting the Care Point lowdown on the Nokia N97 camera glass and GPS
Published by Steve Litchfield at 14:33 UTC, October 9th 2009
The two big hardware issues which have plagued owners of the first N97 devices off the production line are, of course, the easily-scratched camera glass cover and the very poor GPS reception. Having ordered fixes for both from my local service centre a while ago, I finally had them attend to each and managed to get quite a bit more information for the rest of us in the process. Read on...
Camera glass scratching
You'll have seen Nokia's official statement on this issue yesterday. Essentially, the problem is that the protective pad is mounted too close to the plastic camera lens cover, causing dust to get ground in and produce scratches. There are unofficial fixes on the 'net which involve just replacing the sliding mechanism with a China-sourced replacement, but the official solution, shown below, involves completely replacing the N97's plastic rear assembly, of which the camera protection slide is just part:

The new slide is mounted a millimetre or so above the camera 'glass' and shouldn't cause the same issue.
How to tell if your N97 has the old design: You'll know - you'll have scratches already. If your lens is clear of physical scratches then relax, you're OK. (If you look very closely then you can tell the two designs apart - one has a visible gap between slide and camera glass.)
Poor GPS reception
Rather less visible an issue, poor GPS reception is the biggest showstopper for owners, with Ovi Maps becoming just about unusable. The problem is not with the antenna itself (shown below for interest sake), but with the way electronic interference from the N97's PCB degrades the GPS signals being received.

(note the original, scratched, camera glass is also shown clearly)
The official fix is to install a new antenna, with an additional shield near the point where it attaches to the main PCB. Correctly installed at the service centre, GPS signals are then improved by "2 to 4dB" and this makes all the difference in the world - I was able to navigate a 30 mile journey with no a single loss of GPS lock and with faultless directions.
How to tell if your N97 has the old, unshielded design: You'll know - Nokia Maps/Ovi Maps will be useless in navigation mode - the lock will be lost very frequently. With the latest Ovi Maps 3.3 beta, you'll be spared this message but your reported position will be badly delayed. If Nokia Maps/Ovi Maps are working fine then relax, you've already got the new design.
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It's not known when Nokia changed the design of either component in the N97 production run - my guess (and that's all it is), for each of the two design changes above, is that it happened after a month or so. Which means that if your N97 was made since about mid-July 2009 then you'll be OK. But, as I say, if either of the two issues actually seem to be happening for your phone then just make an appointment with your local Nokia 'Care Point' (here's a directory for you to check out, worldwide) and they'll sort it out for you.
Steve Litchfield, AAS, 9 October 2009
News Discussion
Arthur
But if you happen to live in North America you're still out of luck. The nearest Nokia service centre is.... err... nowhere to be found!
Time to cut my losses and put my POS N97 on ebay me thinks.
Thanks Nokia. That was the last time I wasted my money on your product.
Unregistered
There is a service center in the US, but unfortunately it is in Alabama and has a 7-10 day turnaround (about 2-3 weeks including shipment).
Unregistered
If memory serves me right, this is Nokia's high-end offering with the most flaws/defects post-production. It should have undergone numerous quality testing and 'aged' to maturity/perfection before release. What an average phone user will percieve about Nokia N97 (original issues):
1. mediocre performance (due to limited memory)
2. boring interface (lack of theme effects, kinetic scrolling)
3. defective camera cover
Nokia should, with conscience, have a mechanism to inform and recall all "defective" units for the to be fixed. I pity those who paid considerable buck for this phone not getting the worth that they deserve.
-Dan
Scythe77
This new helps. Although you can't really see the gap between the lens and the cover It serves to confirm that it has been address.
Is there any way to identify new units (e.g manufacture date) via the IMEI series number? I ask because retailers will not allow you to open a sealed package just to check the lens cover out.
Also, the defective lens cover had a blue plastic piece underneath. It seems the fixed one is a different color, based on the picture, but it's difficult to tell. Can anyone confirm if the fixed lens cover is a different color?
Unregistered
wrong! People commenting who have no clue... It took a total of two three days to get the device back in my hands. This from alabama to california by the way.
Unregistered
correction: two to three
Pronam
Unregistered
Unregistered
As a vodafone uk customer, do I go back to voda or go to the Nokia repair centre?
Thanks
newtype
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
wrong! People commenting who have no clue... It took a total of two three days to get the device back in my hands. This from alabama to california by the way.
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My experiences has shown me otherwise.
I have sent devices 4 separate times for repair, and in ZERO instances did I get the device back in 2-3 days. You must mean: it took 3-5 days for the device to get there, 3-5 days for the device to be fixed, and 3-5 days for it back to get to you.
I'm in Florida if it makes in difference.
On all occasions, they were unable to repair my device so they had to replace it.
stuclark
If this was anyone else than Nokia, there'd be a lot more negative feedback about this "issue"...
Unregistered
If your a voda (or any other carrier/operator) customer, that bought the phone on contract then you go to voda, as technically you don't own the phone yet, your still paying for it as part of the contract. In the background Voda will probly just send it off to Nokia though! So it'll take longer
Unregistered
I bought my device from Jordan, and wanted to fix it in Dubai, but they would not take it even if I pay for it.
Unregistered
I must say, I have been a Nokia fan for years starting with the first querty smartphones and even now I still own a N95 8Gb. I've been following this site all along, but time has come to be onest: Nokia is not the supreme god of phones anymore, in fact they fell behind the rest quite badly ! I am not talking cheap smartphones here, I am talking about their "multimedia computers", things that are supposed to compete with the likes of Palm Pre, Iphone, HTC Hero. I know some others have made similar comments but they have been swiftly put in their places by AAS, with such remarks as the N97 was a lot cheaper then rivals (??!) and it was not meant to compete with those. Well, in my country they are all about the same price. I remember reading explanations about expensive hardware in Iphone versus budget hardware in Nokias. Puting a weak processor in their flagship, a usesless GPS receiver ( as in my old N95 8gb ) and a pathetic amount of RAM, and trying to sell this device for as much as the direct competitors is simply unforgiveble. For me the time has come to say goodbye Nokia and Symbian alltogether. I congratulate AAS for having the guts to admit, even as late as now and in an indirect manner, that Nokia is not a contender in the high-end smartphone market anymore.
Unregistered
das n97 ist mit sicherheit nicht das "high-end" gerät wie es sich manche gewünscht hätten, aber es ist super stylisch und hat genügend power um so gut wie alles was man im alltag brauch zu ermöglichen! wer ernsthaft denkt das ein hero oder iphone besser ist..*lol*..da kann ich nur herzhaft lachen!!
tnkgrl
wejk1
Thankiossk Cool!
Unregistered
telling it straight, N97 is never Nokia's flagship....so please Nokia, if you are announcing this phone as flagship, then it's an utter failure! E72 must be the real flagship! But the time taking it to the market is so looooooooooooooooong that by the time it get's there, a lot of samsungs, LGs, etc would be better!
KPO'M
I've about had it with Symbian and Nokia after the lousy GPS performance of the N95, N85 and now N97. I'm willing to give Maemo a chance, but not sure I want to be an early adopter of Nokia phones anymore. I'll be watching the AAM site for people's reaction to the phone.
wampyre
Thanks for checking out on the issue about the GPS.
It seems I was very unlucky as I both have the Camera-slider issue and the GPS issue.
That said I went to the store I bought my phone I had one complaint "leftover".(Because when the shop delivered it for fix of the camera slider issue, it took longer time than usual)
I can therefore complain about the service (for the first fix) as well. :)
steverh
Err - slight problem - the Nokia shop locator page doesn't seem to be working, it just hangs showing;
Area:
Do you know the store name:
In this keyword search field you can enter different search criteria e.g. address, city name, postal code (3 digits minimum) or store name. This helps you to produce more accurate and refined results.
Find
Services:
loading Store Types...
if you manually input a postcode or town then it hangs on "searching ....please wait"
The N97 customer experience for me has been woeful.
zxon
This may sound like a stupid question, but please bear with me because I have to travel quite a long way to get to a Nokia Care Point.
I know because the N97 is only three months old that every single one of them should still be within warranty (unless they've been tampered with, which thankfully mine isn't) but, just in case the people at the shop are difficult, how do I prove that my N97 is still within warranty?
I don't want to have to make an extra journey because I didn't bring everything I needed to bring.
zxon
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Originally Posted by steverh
Err - slight problem - the Nokia shop locator page doesn't seem to be working, it just hangs
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Mine does too. It doesn't work in Firefox for some reason, and doesn't work properly in Internet Explorer 8 either. If you have IE8, put it into compatibility view (The broken page icon on the address bar). That worked for me.
sapporobaby
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Originally Posted by zxon
Mine does too. It doesn't work in Firefox for some reason, and doesn't work properly in Internet Explorer 8 either. If you have IE8, put it into compatibility view (The broken page icon on the address bar). That worked for me.
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Take your receipt with the date of purchase. Make sure you point this out very clearly and tell them that they need to fix this under warranty. Do not take no for an answer. It now seems that all of us early "complainers" were correct even though some on this site continued to make apologies for the inherent flaws of the phone. I am glad I took mine back especially considering that this is supposed to be a flagship phone.
zxon
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Originally Posted by sapporobaby
Take your receipt with the date of purchase. Make sure you point this out very clearly and tell them that they need to fix this under warranty. Do not take no for an answer. It now seems that all of us early "complainers" were correct even though some on this site continued to make apologies for the inherent flaws of the phone. I am glad I took mine back especially considering that this is supposed to be a flagship phone.
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Thanks. Dya think it's just a matter of them ordering the part (new back with new lens and GPS shielding) and then I can hand my phone in when they get it?
May be a long shot but they could fix it on the day if they have the part in. That way, I can make a day of it in the town centre while I'm there (Stockport).
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