Google Maps and Ovi Maps to solve the same problem

Published by Ewan Spence at 14:34 UTC, October 2nd 2009

Yesterday's heads up from Google about a local search update left us scratching our heads. It was a redesign of the layout, as well as adding some category support, but fundamentally it was a tweak to the existing local search that's available in any city around the world by punching in http://www.google.com/m/local into your phone's web browser. Still, it got the blogs writing about the product again... read on for my thoughts!

Meanwhile, we were comparing the new US local search to the searches available for Reading and Edinburgh (in the UK), and to be honest we couldn't see much difference in the results alongside similar searches in San Francisco. Is this really new?

Err, no. Google's mission has always been along the lines of organising the world's information. And part of that information is where you are searching from – the mobile factor. If you are on a mobile device and searching for Pizza then this should be taken into consideration. And it should be done without having to resort to a special application or link, it should just happen. 'As if by magic' is the key phrase.

Part of that is the tricks used for locating the handset. I can barely get a GPS signal up here in the office where I work, yet on starting local search for pizza, the results were tailored not just for Edinburgh as a city, but on my rough location. Of course, after a moment or two of thinking, this wasn't some super fast GPS location, or even a preference setting, but the use of the cell towers and the database that Google has built up. Why it worked wasn't important. That it worked was enough.

Ovi Maps

Anyone can carry a computer somewhere, be it a netbook, smartphone or a PDA. But that one piece of information – where you are – provides so rich a context for interaction that the tying in of location aware applications and features to various sites and services on the Internet is likely to be one of the key growth areas in 2010. [People have been saying that for the last 10 years, mind you! - Ed]

The obvious growth area is maps, but this is just the immediate thought. Nokia have already trailed the idea of the Ovi Store being able to provide geographically appropriate applications in the future for the traveller. The oft quoted example of landing in a new city and being offered an electronic Lonely Planet guide is one that's not only practical, but one that everyone can understand. And why shouldn't the occasional application be pushed towards a user?

Now think about some of Nokia's recent moves. The launch of a user generated database through Ovi Maps Good Things potentially hands them the details of thousands of locations around the world that can be relayed to others; the purchase of Dopplr hands them not only a 'social graph' of travellers and the connections they have made, but also a team that understands how to build and nuture a social network of people and their information.

It's an interesting contrast – Google and Nokia both have the map data, but the big G is grafting its search data into a local context, while Nokia are coming at the problem from the other end, allowing the social network to build up content that can be searched on. Both approaches are equally valid, and are of course the best approaches given the respective starting places of each company.

What's interesting to me is that mapping, search and social have all been present in some form in mobile over the last few years – since the Nokia N95 put a GPS in a mainstream device, your location has been an ever present feature on every mid to high-end device, it's just not been brought to the fore. All that is going to change in 2010.

Up until recently, it was a given that every household in the UK received a copy of the Yellow Pages directory, with local content and businesses available at your fingertips. Mobile search is no difference, but by taking account of the unique selling points of mobile, there are two 21st Century equivalents fighting for your smartphone's screen space. The two companies, and all the smaller local services and start-ups, are going to keep each other honest and drive innovation. It's going to be exciting, and while it's not as gee-whiz as some technology, it has the ability to make your life much easier. Especially if you do use your mobile rather than the old printed pages.

-- Ewan Spence, October 2009.


 

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Unregistered
The difference is I will be able to rely on google's version of this on an S60 phone over nokia's maps which always seems to have problems and crashes randomly whenever I use it on my 5800.

Not saying that maps is horrible, when it works its great but it always seems to have issues as a program ever since the initial release with my old N95.
Sockatume
Nokia Maps does have one distinct advantage: offline use. Few mobile manufacturers seem to realise how handy this is, because I think Nokia's the only company that includes such a feature by default. Open mapping projects are providing a viable alternative for offline use though.
borjok
what i dont like about google maps is that, you have to connect to the internet to download maps, and its not cheap... why not having maps saved on the memory card everytime you go online, so that you dont have to connect again to have that same map downloaded again and again.. memry cards now are becoming cheap and thr capacity is getting bigger and bigger..
Matt John
Symbian OS was an operating system (OS) designed for mobile devices, with associated libraries, user interface, frameworks and reference implementations of common tools, developed by Symbian Ltd. It was a descendant of Psion's EPOC and runs exclusively on ARM processors, although an unreleased x86 port existed.

In 2008 a new, independent non-profit organization called the Symbian Foundation was established and the former Symbian Software Limited was acquired by Nokia. Symbian OS and its associated user interfaces S60, UIQ and MOAP(S) were contributed by their owners to the foundation with the objective of creating the Symbian platform as royalty-free, open source software. The process of publishing the source code under the Eclipse Public License (EPL) was slated for completion in 2010.[2]

The term 'Symbian OS' went out of current use with the advent of the Symbian platform, however the software itself, as described in this entry, did not.

Now-a-days, I am taking the itil practice exams, I am also using mobile phone compatible of Symbian OS;

Thanks
:)
Unregistered
@Matt John: Great to see over the top pedantry alive and well ;-)
Sockatume
I'm afraid that Matt John is a spam bot copying Wikipedia content according to keywords.
cymbi
It's a cool app,but it can only work in the google.com,donot support the google.cn.

I love AAS.

cymbi come from China......
Unregistered
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
The difference is I will be able to rely on google's version of this on an S60 phone over nokia's maps which always seems to have problems and crashes randomly whenever I use it on my 5800.

Not saying that maps is horrible, when it works its great but it always seems to have issues as a program ever since the initial release with my old N95.
Nokia maps has never once failed or crashed on my N95, I've used it with all software versions 12 to 31.

Google Maps inability to download and store content locally, or even to cache what has just been viewed is the difference between the two. I just stopped using google maps, it was too much of a pain.
Unregistered
in the post above I should have written "never failed on my 5800" not N95.
alweekes
They do, but the map data is very different.

I paid for walking navigation on Ovi maps and it's to all intents and purposes it's useless most of the time I want to use it, since it can only navigate streets, and seems to know nothing of footpaths in the UK.

Google maps on the other hand can navigate off-street, but costs money if you don't have unlimited data.

Andy.
Unregistered
Quote:
Originally Posted by alweekes
I paid for walking navigation on Ovi maps and it's to all intents and purposes it's useless most of the time I want to use it, since it can only navigate streets, and seems to know nothing of footpaths in the UK.

Google maps on the other hand can navigate off-street, but costs money if you don't have unlimited data.
Depending on where in the UK you live, OpenStreetMap (http://www.openstreetmap.org) and one of the free offline routing apps like GpsMid (http://gpsmid.sourceforge.net) might be an alternative. In some areas of the UK (likewise in other countries), OpenStreetMap offers better pedestrian routing than either Google maps or Ovi, but it still varies quite a bit from region to region. On the other hand, as a wiki, you can help improve its map and with the exponential growth, it won't take long before it is better everywhere.

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