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Nokia N86 8MP Review - Part 2 - The Camera/Camcorder

Published by Steve Litchfield at 19:27 UTC, June 22nd 2009 under Hardware in S60 3rd Edition|| 39 Comments / Post New Comment

Part 2 of our extended review - see also Nokia N86 8MP Review - Part 1 - Overview

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The story so far

As Rafe waxed so eloquently in Part 1 of this review, the Nokia N86 fits somewhere near the end of the line of Nseries dual-sliders, in many ways a spiritual successor to the all-conquering N95, which itself is still one of the top smartphones in the world. It also follows nicely on from the rather more niche N93 and N82, both heavily-pitched towards photography. The real question is: how much better is the N86 than its two year old (at least) camera-centric competition? And how well do all the much-hyped camera improvements work in real life?

 

Taking photos

This, above all else, is the main selling point of the N86 8MP. If taking ad-hoc photos of the world around you is something that you're passionate about then you're going to love the N86. If you've been frustrated by bad indoor photos taken with other camera-toting phones, then again you're going to love the N86, which is markedly better in this scenario.

Here (and quoting bits where necessary from our original N86 overview) are the main improvements made on the camera front:

  • There's a Tessar Carl Zeiss lens in the camera, as usual for Nokia's top phones, but here it's rated at a resolution of 8 Megapixels (3264 x 2448).
     
  • The sensitivity of the sensor has been increased, relative to the already good N95/N82's sensor (physical size is similar, we believe). This means that it is able to more efficiently capture incoming light. This gives the sensor much more 'information' to work with and consequently results in higher resolution and potentially higher quality pictures.
     
  • The N86 boasts a variable aperture, which means the size of the aperture (optical diameter) can be varied. The N86 has three settings: F2.4, F3.2 and F4.8, other phones typically have a fixed aperture (Nokia's are generally at F2.8). Varying the size of the aperture means that the amount of light let into the sensor can be changed. Higher F numbers mean a smaller opening and, as well as letting in less light, this can theoretically give sharper images. The overall effect of this is that, in theory, the N86 can produce higher quality photos over a greater range of lighting conditions. While the most noticeable difference will be in low light conditions (where camera phones typically struggle), the N86 also takes slightly better photos in very sunny conditions (sharper). 
     
  • In addition to the usual Nseries mechanical shutter, Nokia have also included software that does 'Automatic Motion Blur Reduction' and routines for producing higher 'dynamic range' (detail in both very dark and light areas). Going hand in hand with these are improvements to the camera software performance; camera start up time, shutter lag and shot-to-shot times have all been improved.
     
  • There's also a wide angle lens (28mm) lens. This means that the N86 will capture a greater area compared to a standard lens. In captured images (and videos), you'll see extra material on the left, right, top and bottom of images.
     

Here are half a dozen photo samples from Rafe: (See also Rafe's detailed head to head between the N86 and the N82, N97 and INNOV8)

N86 Image Sample N86 Image Sample N86 Image Sample

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And a few of mine:

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In view of the improvements made to the camera hardware (compared to the run-of-the-mill 5 megapixel Nokia camera unit), I wanted to go further though, to hopefully demonstrate just how much better the N86 8MP is, i.e. beyond the simple increase in pixel resolution. In the comparison photos below, except where noted, I was using the well known Nokia N95 'Classic' as my yardstick - the N95 is still just about as good as a phone camera gets, with mature software now and with mechanical camera glass protection (so no chance of scratches or fingerprints distorting the results).

Fading light details

Test photo 1

As you can see, the sun was just about to set, light levels were low-ish AND I was shooting into the source of light. How well could the N86's 8mp sensor pick out the detail on the car number plate?

Test photo 1 - detail

Significantly better, as you might expect. The N95's photo (top) seems to indicate that the second character shown is '5', rather then '6', the real number.

Garden greenery at dusk

The light levels here were really very low, much darker than the photos make out. The sun was just setting (taken just after the test shot above), this corner of the garden was in 'shade' anyway, and the N86 (and N95) both wanted to use their flash to help out. I said 'no' because this is a test of the extra sensitivity and aperture size on the newer phone.

 

Test photo 3

Again, zooming right into the centre of the photo, we can see the differences in captured detail under these light conditions:

Test photo 3 - detail

As you can clearly see, the N86's photo (bottom) is crisp, with accurate colours (there's no pink/orange stone in real life) and better focus and detail. Quite a stunning difference in fact. Remember, I'm really pushing the N86 here, and remember that I'm comparing it to one of Nokia's previously very best camera phones.

 

Shiny, shiny

One of the boasts of the N86 is that it can vary its aperture size. Both to cope with low light and, perhaps more importantly, to cope with very bright light, by 'stopping' down the aperture to stop the light over-saturating the sensor. 

Test photo 2

Three objects, varying colours and reflectivity, placed in the full sun on a black trampoline. The N86's version (bottom) of the photos was significantly less bleached out than the N95's - let's look at some detail:

Test photo 2 - detail

You can see that the reflection of the sun on the orange has been far better controlled on the bottom N86 photo, allowing more detail to be seen. The texture of the trampoline is also much clearer, hinting at better depth of field (another benefit of reducing the aperture size in bright light).

Flash in the fan

What about the six million dollar question. Can the N86's dual LED flash and better sensor make up for not having a Xenon flash, this being an 'ultimate' camera phone? Here's the test - a fan turned on, about 2 metres away, in a pitch dark hallway. This is your classic 'photos at a club/disco' scenario, in terms of trying to illuminate and capture a moment. In each case, I've cropped the central part of each photo, so that you can see detail better.

Flash detail - N95

Nokia N95 (single LED)

Flash detail - N96

Nokia N96 (dual LED)

Flash detail

Nokia N86 (dual LED, bigger sensor, wider aperture)

Flash detail - 6220/Xenon

Nokia 6220c (Xenon flash, cheapish sensor)

As expected, the Xenon flash-lit shot freezes the fan blades perfectly - this is one of the two great advantages of Xenon. HOWEVER, the second big advantage is illumination, but from the evidence above I'd say that the dual LED flash of the N86, coupled with the bigger, better sensor and wider aperture, produces a scene that's lit just as well as the Xenon version.

Have I forgiven Nokia for NOT putting a Xenon flash in the N86? Almost. 8-)

See also Rafe's head-to-head shots between Nokia N86 and: N82, Samsung INNOV8 and N97.

Camera modes

The Camera application has the usual assembly of settings, including a customisable toolbar and geo-tagging, but the new highlight is the panorama mode. This functionality, a result of Nokia's acquisition of bitSide, automatically stiches images together to produce a wide panoramic image. A bit gimmicky? Maybe, but it does manage to produce some decent looking results. Essentially, you snap one photo and then start panning the N86 round. When the software detects that the 'next' photo is needed, it takes it automatically - you just need to keep moving round.

The captured angle is approximately 180 degrees and seems preset at five photos, end to end - although presumably you could do two panorama shots and then stitch them together on your desktop to produce a full 360 degrees. Still, I'd like to see Nokia extend the function to (optionally) take more photos in a sequence.

The final images are about 5000 x 900 pixels (although the exact dimensions depend on how smoothly and accurately you swivel to keep the panorama guides aligned properly on-screen. Here are three examples of the output, the individual photos are aligned automatically and their edges blended - if you look really closely then you can spot the joins, but they'll pass casual muster:

N86 Panorama Example

N86 Panorama Example

N86 Panorama Example

Click through for source images

The Camera interface is otherwise similar to that on other previous Nokia S60 phones, but the creators obviously realised that with 'Panorama' and 'Go to Photos' now added to the existing 'toolbar', the latter was beginning to look unworkably unwieldy. So it has been drastically simplified, by default, with brightness, Colour tone, Contrast, Exposure, Light sensitivity, Sharpness and White balance all relegated to toolbar shortcuts that can be 'added' later if needed. This approach works well and 99% of use cases won't need any manually fiddling. I did find that 'Exposure' was handy to put back on the toolbar, for either taking silhouettes or trying to salvage detail against a bright sky.

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Automatic Motion Blur Reduction (AMBR)

AMBR is an innovation for Nokia's cameras and works by analysing the movement in the viewfinder image. It's looking for either subject movement or camera movement. If it detects either it will appropriately increase the shutter speed (i.e. open it for a shorter time) to minimise/eliminate either a blurred subject, camera movement or both. This is mainly made possible by the increased sensitivity of the sensor - i.e. there's light to spare and the shutter speed can be reduced in many situations and still leave plenty of light with which to compose the photo.

Whilst different to image stabilisation (IS) systems, AMBR can give more pleasing results. IS systems only compensate for camera movement and not subject movement - you're still left with slow shutter speeds. Whilst you may have less noise with a IS system because it is using slower shutter speed and relying less on the sensor, a blurred subject is far from ideal, of course, and this is where AMBR can be better. It also has a benefit over some digital IS systems which can't work with flash as they require multiple frames to create a single clearer one.

Testing AMBR is tricky because it's a feature that it always 'on' - so the N86's photos are benefitting from this all the time without you being aware of it. In practice, AMBR just means that your success rate with photos will be higher, with less camera shake problems and less blurring on human subjects who just can't stand still. Under extreme conditions, e.g. with dancing or running subjects, AMBR falls down and won't produce any benefits - it's arguably a marginal technology, but from the fact that you can't turn it off, Nokia seem confident in it and so is probably better to have than not have!

Video capture

Video capture on the original Nokia N95 was stunning for its time, taking the market leading VGA capture (at 30fps) of the niche N93 and putting it in a much more standard, mass-market form factor (albeit at the loss of the forward facing stereo microphones and optical zoom). The N95 8GB and N82 inherited the same camera and set up Nokia's reputation as the best video capture phones in the world. Unfortunately, the N79, N85, N96 and N97 all featured a different, smaller camera that was limited, pre-focussed, in video mode, on infinity, making them not suitable for close-up videos of family and friends, all of whom would appear somewhat blurred.

The N86 8MP has, thankfully, a camera along the lines of the original N95's with a mechanism for pre-focussing in video mode, set at around a metre or two. In good light, this means a depth of field that extends backwards towards the horizon and gives the best of all worlds. In addition, the N86 even improves on the N95 itself, by being the first camera phone in the world not to 'bin' pixels when capturing video. In other words, every last pixel from the 8mp sensor is used in gathering data to create the VGA video picture and the end result is clearer than before and with better low-light performance.

You can see the clarity of video from the N86 here in a test video shot in bright but overcast conditions early in the morning. A snippet from the N95 is also included. Note also that the audio is as clear and is of as high quality as we've come to expect from Nokia's Nseries. 

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Note also the wide angle lens on the N86, which has even more of an effect in video mode than in still photo mode - with the pre-focus, with the wide angle and with the more sensitive sensor, you should be able to film almost anything and get reasonable footage. Here's some footage from a pitch dark room:

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Admittedly I haven't tested night video capture on the N79, N85, N96 and N97 exhaustively, but from what I've seen anecdotally, this quality footage, while not perfect, is an order of magnitude better than that on the other devices with their smaller apertures and smaller, less sensitive sensors. There's still the issue of dazzling your subjects with the dual LED right next to the lens, and of course, even the N86's sensor  won't be able to help if you're trying to film something more than a metre or two away in the dark.

Also of special note is that digital zoom becomes possible for real - because the whole sensor is used for video capture, up to 4x zoom is handled without undue pixellation. See here for a demo. The system works surprisingly well - in low light, it's even superior to optical zoom, since the latter involved more glass optics, reducing the light that gets to the sensor. Nokia don't push this improved zoom facility in their marketing, but it's something well worth noting.

With a gap of two years since the N95, you might have expected Nokia to have progressed beyond VGA capture, but this is something of a technological sweet spot. If you increase resolution further then you start increasing the file sizes of movies way beyond the current 20MB/min, requiring more and more storage to save files and requiring more and more processor power to encode and manage them. As we've seen with the Samsung i8910 HD, it's easy to mess up in this area (frame rate drops, audio problems), but I would expect to see Nokia announce a phone with 720p (HD) recording at some point, possibly MWC next year, when the electronics, processor power and storage equations have all been solved. 

 


 

In the next and final part of my Nokia N86 review, I'm going to look at its multimedia handling, at its application set and then deliver my verdict.

Steve Litchfield, All About Symbian, 28 June 2009

Review Discussion

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symbiote
why didnt you compare its detail with the innov8???
many other websites have claimed it to have less detail than the other 8mp cam phones
smellati
the n86 is not a lot better than the n82. In fact, the n82 is better in some aspects.

Same can be said about the n97 vs the n95.

Seems like nokia is moving more sideways than forward.

Maybe nokia is too big for their own good.
Unregistered
Thanks Steve. Can you tell us about fan photos, how accurate is carpet color in N86? Also can you give us some more photos of moving objects (pets, kids..) as they are quite difficult to capture, so we can see this motion blur, variable aperture, fast focus at work. Cheers, Miki
miki69
Hi Steve, can you please tell us more about scene modes (close-up, sport, night mode..) does it make a difference?. This part of camera features haven't been touched at all.
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why didnt you compare its detail with the innov8???
many other websites have claimed it to have less detail than the other 8mp cam phones
Because it's a 28mm cam and captures a wider field when taking photos at the same location, hence by having lesser details...?
malerocks
Good phone and reasonable upgrade IMO.

Everyone should remember that not everyone finds its feasible (or necessary) to upgrade their phone everytime a new one is released. Hence, not many many people that buy the n86 will not necessarily be upgrading from the n95 or the n82. If you compare the n86 to the many options available out there, it still comes out as a good phone to switch to, especially for people who dont switch very frequently.
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Hi Steve, can you please tell us more about scene modes (close-up, sport..) does it make a difference?. This part of camera features hasn't been touched at all.
Camera Nitty Gritty time for you, I say!
miki69
Thanks, I've read that article :icon14: . However my question is if there are any N86 improvements in this scene mode area. BR
Kazutoyo
I think the N86 did surprisingly well in the fan test, so that was nice. But it's nothing that will make me rush out and buy the device.
Unregistered
But the details of the pictures captured by Pixon12 are far better than the N86. The guys over at GSMarena criticised N86 a lot, saying that it is worse than Innov8. Is this true?
Unregistered
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But the details of the pictures captured by Pixon12 are far better than the N86. The guys over at GSMarena criticised N86 a lot, saying that it is worse than Innov8. Is this true?
Mostly true due to immature software algorithms. Expect this to improve once Nokia gets moving and releases updates.

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The noise reduction is also much more aggressive in the N86 8MP results, eradicating all fine detail and giving the photos a distinct oil-painting look. The photos however aren't any less noisy than the INNOV8, which either means that the N86 sensor isn't as good in this aspect or the algorithm is a total failure. Either way, the Samsung INNOV8 snatches a point here as well.
nj7
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Originally Posted by smellati View Post
the n86 is not a lot better than the n82. In fact, the n82 is better in some aspects.

Same can be said about the n97 vs the n95.

Seems like nokia is moving more sideways than forward.

Maybe nokia is too big for their own good.
Agree! And the big question is, why N82 and itīs Xenon flash as keep away of test? Because the interior and low light photos are far away better then the ones of N86? Itīs the case? I think it is... itīs because of that, that the DSC makers, like Canon, Nikon and others, donīt do an DSC with LED instead of Xenon flash.
Nokia are on sideways, with the same boring, really boring, screen resolution. I already try one N86, and itīs the same phone, like previous ones, with low light photos of interior magazine, worst that the ones of N82 and itīs a heavy phone. For that, without Xenon Flash, I think that N95 8G itīs better...
Letīs see witch itīs the next one...
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Agree! And the big question is, why N82 and itīs Xenon flash as keep away of test? Because the interior and low light photos are far away better then the ones of N86? Itīs the case? I think it is... itīs because of that, that the DSC makers, like Canon, Nikon and others, donīt do an DSC with LED instead of Xenon flash.
Nokia are on sideways, with the same boring, really boring, screen resolution. I already try one N86, and itīs the same phone, like previous ones, with low light photos of interior magazine, worst that the ones of N82 and itīs a heavy phone. For that, without Xenon Flash, I think that N95 8G itīs better...
Letīs see witch itīs the next one...
Really? Please look at the battery life advantage the N86 has over the N95 8GB.

It's heavy because of all the premium materials used, what with a glass screen and all.


Xenon is good for photographs, but you sure don't see any Videos using Xenon. You'd melt the phone before 1 min of footage.

N82 being unused - What use is Xenon in broad day light? It's specifically mentioned to be a non flash based shoot out. Also, N82 WAS tested. http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/revie...sung_I8510.php

Also, Xenon tends to be far too bright sometimes, with TREMENDOUS reflections. It's a PITA to take photo's with when there's a reflective surface near...

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Originally Posted by http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/features/item/Camera_Nitty_Gritty-part_2.php
Having then presented the pros and cons of LED/dual-LED/Xenon flash-equipped phones, the decision is, as usual, not really clear cut. If low light photos are common for you (an active night social life?) then having a Xenon flash on board really is essential, despite the hits on cost and battery life.

If flash-snaps are only an occasional thing then a dual LED flash will do nicely - I've hopefully demonstrated above how much better a dual LED unit is than a single. And it should be noted that technology is improving LED flashes all the time - I'd lay a safe bet that the individual LEDs in the N79's dual unit are each quite a bit brighter than the one in the Nokia N95, which in turn is a lot brighter than the pitiful LED in the N93.
PLEASE, READ THE F--KING SITE BEFORE COMMENTING. And do try to use good English. At least keep the sentence structure, if not the grammar of your sentences correct...
nj7
Really?

Yes, really, look at the price also!

PLEASE, READ THE F--KING SITE BEFORE COMMENTING.
I read, all... for so many years...

And do try to use good English.
Try read and write with 7 different languages, and English, of course itīs not my native one...
greengiant987
Hi Steve,

This was a very interesting article that very clearly demonstrates how good N86 camera is. I thought the keyboard article was great too other than the E71 score being completely off.

I really don't know where else to post this but as long as it gets to you I guess it doesn't matter.

Would it be possible to do an in depth comparison of browser performance of the recent phones (n97,5800, any Google phone, iPhone, n86 ?). Having used e71 browser I find it adequate only with JS and flash disabled :) and I've seen plenty of 5800 videos where the reviewer did a quick demo of the browser and then went 'there is always opera mini' :).

Considering that all of these phones use the same engine it would be interesting to see just how different they are. I understand Nokia is using a very dated version of Webkit. After Apple shower their very impressive SunSpider benchmark results I tried it on my e71 and ,well, it doesn't get very far before giving up(obviously JS back on ). I'm only asking because I care (plus I find it a little frustrating that you put Nokia's browser on par with iPhone's as it may mislead potential buyers into spending a large sum of money on a device that underperforms).
malerocks
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Yes, really, look at the price also!
Dude, thats not fair. You are comparing the launch price of the n86 to the current price of the n82, which has been around for quite a long period now. Its a known fact that shortly after launch prices of all handsets start dipping over a period of time.

If you want a fair comparison, compare the launch prices of both the phones. And if you are unwilling to spend the current amount asked for the n86, wait till the price drops - which will not be too long.
yade
Steve/Rafe,

Can you elaborate on your thoughts on Nokia using essentially the same camera interface they have been for the last few years. I know it does the job and Nokia regulars will be used to it but when I have used SE and Samsung phones in camera mode the experience replicates standard point and shoot camera's and give a better all round experience. I think even if they are close to the best in terms of image quality I think this is an area I would like to see improvements.
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Steve/Rafe,

Can you elaborate on your thoughts on Nokia using essentially the same camera interface they have been for the last few years. I know it does the job and Nokia regulars will be used to it but when I have used SE and Samsung phones in camera mode the experience replicates standard point and shoot camera's and give a better all round experience. I think even if they are close to the best in terms of image quality I think this is an area I would like to see improvements.
To be fair, the application whilst on the surface shares a lot of ressemlence to that first introduced with the N73/93 We did make a fairly significant change in the latter part of last year where we enabled full customisation of the items that appear in the toolbar and the order they are placed. Very few, if any provide such customisation. This allows you to decide which features you use the most and then have them only a click or two away. Whilst I understand that others may use glitzy looking icons and therefore appear more upto date I think the model we use is still one of the easiest to use out there.

These comments are in regard to S60 3.2 based products. However, with N97 the UI solution is a little different and to many will look more up to date. Have you had the chance to use either the N97 or 5800 camera UI?

Having said all that we are looking seriously into future development of the camera interface and would therefore be very interested in hearing specific requests. Please don't take this the wrong way, but sorry to say that having a UI which looks more like that of a digital camera is not a request, as what's to say we can't deliever something better than those? I have yet to see a dedicated digital camera UI which I look at and think wow that works really well. So, please share with us what you'd like to see. What you think works well and what doesn't for you.

br
BobThailand
I smiled when I read the part about the bloodline of N93 to N82 to N86. I owned both the N93 (what a shame that was, both the still camera and Nokia's pathetic support of a very expensive phone) then the N82 (love this thing. Adore it, actually.) and, budget willing, will soon have the 86. I will look at the Pixon12 if I don't own the 86 by then, but I'm a Nokia guy. I'd be lost on Sammy.
Brian_CaB
Hello Steve, Rafe, thanks for doing the yeoman's work on checking out the phone.
I don't own an N series phone nor have I found an answer to this question so I'm hoping you have an answer or can try this on the N86.

Once the camera is launched, does the accelerometer enable functionality to automagically switch from portrait to landscape or vice versa by simply rotating the phone?
malerocks
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Once the camera is launched, does the accelerometer enable functionality to automagically switch from portrait to landscape or vice versa by simply rotating the phone?
You really dont need the accelerometer for that. The camera will anyways click in whichever mode you hold the phone - landscape or portrait. And the photo app on the phone will display the photo in the mode it was clicked. Ditto for most image viewing applications on a pc.
Brian_CaB
I can understand if there is some method to manually switch between a default portrait or landscape mode similar to a rotate button in a pic viewer in a PC app.
With my current phone and camera, the orientation may be chosen.
Without that, or the accelerometer, wouldn't the pic have a default portrait or landscape orientation?
How can the camera know which side is down without an accelerometer, some other type of sensor or an analysis algorithm to decide if the short or long side will be down?
Unregistered
Nokia got to stop thinking that because of there good name they used to have,that all there phones are the best ,since the N95 an N95 8gb they have shown no improvement at all in there "N" series mobiles,the N96 was a let down the N85 had a wobbly slide after a couple of weeks,an the N86 shows they do not want compete in the Top Class Camera mobiles even the reviewer on www.mobile-review.com stated that in is review of the N86,i thought the N86 would be a good upgrade from my N95 8gb but My N95 8gb is a loads better than the N86 ,i had 3 N86s in 5 days an all went FAULTY So will keep my N95 8gb till something better is released,Nokia will lose of customers if they do not change there way of thinking as Samsung an the others are all laughing at Nokia, because they release better top class mobiles than Nokia as Nokia only want to release mid-range mobiles nowdays
Unregistered
Dear Rafe and Steve,

My new N97 produced quite startling phot shhot outs.
With LED flash set on automatic mode, I took pictures at night in my house with lightings on. But the pictures resulted in having whitish smoky effect on the left half of these pictures taken. Why is that so? Appreciate your expert comments a lot. Is it due to my faulty new unit that had to be sent for repair? Thanks.
Unregistered
I would also like to know how the color accuracy of the N86 in the fan/flash photo compares to that of the N82. Steve, could you please comment? Thanks.

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