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The Nokia N82 on a Belated Pedestal

Published by Steve Litchfield at 14:13 UTC, April 11th 2009

Tucked away in my office for days on end, exploring the frontiers of technology, at least in the smartphone world, it's exciting to tinker with the latest touchscreen smartphone, be it Nokia 5800 or N97 or Samsung Omnia HD. In such circumstances, having a phone throw up weird errors or having to rebuild the OS isn't a big problem and is, after a fashion, kind of fun. Life on the bleeding edge, as it were.

But heading out into the 'real world', as I've been doing for the past week, a world inhabited by parents and cousins and grandchildren (not mine), it's best to fall back on hardware and software that's going to be 100% reliable. In every respect.

Out and about in inclement weather

Which is why I headed off with the trusty Nokia N82. I know, I know, I was a bit dismissive of the N82's styling when it first appeared, but as time has gone on the phone has become more and more appealing. So a bit of a U-turn from yours truly, but:

At the time I think we all thought that Nokia's OMAP2-based graphics acceleration was going to be standard in all following phones, or maybe improved upon.
At the time we all thought that Xenon flash was going to be retained for at least some future models.
At the time we expected that the protective lens shutter would also be standard.
And at the time the VGA video recording, neatly focussed for action within a metre or two, was also expected to continue, as it had on the N95 and N95 8GB (plus E90) before it.
And, as such, there was no reason to lift the N82 up onto a pedestal, since future devices would obviously exceed it.

Curiously, the machinations of Nokia's platform plans has meant that the likes of the N95 and N82 haven't been equalled since, with the N79, N85 and N96, plus the 5800 XpressMusic, all lacking in most of these ways. No graphics acceleration (which makes a big difference when playing back video and some games), no Xenon flash (the only other smartphone with this is the [also S60-powered] Samsung G810, which is a let down in other areas), the N96 and 5800 both lack any kind of lens protection, and all bar the 5800 have had their video recording crippled by being focussed on infinity.

N82 5mp camera and Xenon flash

To all of which, all I've got to say is 'Gah!'. At AAS, we often get accused of being Nokia fanboys, but the truth is that we speak our minds and that we divulge honest opinions, with this rant being one of them(!)

And so it was that I headed into the British spring (rain, cloud, cold, gloomy/cold public buildings) with the N82. And, to be honest, there isn't another phone/smartphone in the world that could have done everything I did with it during the week.

  • I took over a hundred photos, all in 'challenging' conditions. When you're trying to capture ad-hoc moments in the life of an extended family (such as here when distant-living cousins cane together to play), you've got to be extremely quick (shot set up times often need to be less than 3 seconds) and you've got to take whatever conditions you get given. In this case, cloudy gloom outdoors and indoor scenes where the lights often needed to be on. Under these circumstances, the N82's Xenon flash was invaluable - when you've tried Xenon you really can't go back - it freezes action and illuminates like nothing else on earth. The way the N82's camera launches when the shutter slide is opened also makes for a quick experience (though I know the N78 and N85 also match this).
     
    Xenon-lit gloomy museum scene
    A typical snap from the trip. This is inside a railway museum, with the reflections off the foreground raincoat showing how dark it really was. And yet the illumination is very bright with Xenon flash. A dual LED flash would have produced much patchier illumination and would also have shown blurring where the children were moving.
     
  • When there's no choice of weather conditions, it's sometimes needed to use your smartphone in the rain. As I've documented before, the N82 seems better than most smartphones at surviving abuse and (here) even light rain. The steam train photo below was taken in light drizzle, for example. No worries about damage to the screen or fascia.
     
    Steaming away in the drizzle
     
  • Back in the family living room, it was the work of 10 seconds to plug the TV out lead into the N82 and give everybody a slide and movie show on the communal 40" TV screen. I don't think everybody could believe that all the images and videos were taken on a phone, though of course you can tell if you know what to look for. Certainly in 'good enough' territory though. The N79, N85 and N96 would have produced blurrier videos on the whole and wouldn't have been half as slick when streaming media through the TV out cable.
     

    TV out in use

     
  • We visited a fair number of venues in attempts to keep the children occupied and Nokia Maps came into its own - having a full real time, voice-guided navigation system on your phone and ready for action in seconds is a huge boon. I also had access to my nephew's TomTom sat-nav unit in the car and we tried the two systems in parallel much of the time. Interestingly, despite the extra (12?) receiver capability, the TomTom cut out several times in terms of the shown route, while the N82 and Nokia Maps allowed me to press on regardless, with no downtime, even when going under bridges or in tree-lined areas - the N82's GPS antenna really is well positioned (especially compared to the travesty that is the positioning on the N95 and N95 8GB). Yes, I know Nokia's online Maps search servers are currently broken for UK (seven character) postcodes, so I had to work around that, but even so the tool did the job for me.
     
  • At night, to get to sleep, and first thing in the mornings, I amused myself by catching up with audio podcasts, streamed over A2DP to my Bluetooth wireless headset. I guess this bit is just showing off to iPhone readers(!) and I could equally well have used a 3.5mm wired headset, but going 'wireless' in this area is still pretty cool and almost every Symbian OS-powered phone now has A2DP so why not use it?
     
  • One family member wanted a cropped version of one of my photos in a hurry (on their phone) and using the N82's built-in image editing it was again the work of a few seconds to crop the picture as needed and then fire it off via Bluetooth. Under a minute elapsed from the ten year old asking and the crop arriving on their device. Not wishing to bash the iPhone yet again, but this still has no basic image editing facilities and no Bluetooth file/object transfer and the same applies to many other popular touchscreen phones.

I'm not blind to the N82's weaknesses, of course. In this case, the smallish and relatively dim screen, which is a limitation when trying to catch up with news in Web and when trying to show off media on-device. I'm not counting the keypad as a weakness anymore, note, because I've found that it's actually more tactile than many other phone keypads and as a result I get less miskeys.

N82 controls and keys

Stability is also a factor when dealing with 'classics' like the N82, with their firmware now (e.g. at v31) extremely mature and crashes almost unheard of. In comparison, my S60 5th Edition-powered 5800 has been locking up several times a day (I know, I know, I push it quite hard) and this was another factor in my switching back to the N82 until Nokia get round to fixing the 5800 up a little more.

Am I right to put the N82 (belatedly) up on a pedestal? Comments welcome.

Steve Litchfield, All About Symbian, 11 April 2009

 

Categories: Comment, Hardware
Platforms: General, S60 3rd Edition

Feature Discussion

Unregistered
I have been using the N82 for over a year and I found it to be extremely stable and reliable. Its photographic abilities have not been matched yet as far as I know and it performs well as a phone, organiser and multimedia device. Its main limitations are screen size which renders internet browsing awkward although still possible if necessary and the lack of a full QWERTY keyboard. Although my contract is due for an upgrade I don't intend to do so any time soon as I don't think there's been any major leap in mobile technology since the N82 was released. I would rather wait and upgrade to something which will not be much outdated technologically in 18 months time when my next upgrade will be due.
Tejstar
I own a Nokia N82 too and so far have not found a viable upgrade path. As you mentioned, the xenon flash is invaluable. Using the phone indoors produces the best pictures I have seen from a camera phone. I recently bought a Nokia N79 for my wife and the LED flash is really found lacking compared to the N82. The GPS also works brilliantly, finding a signal very quickly and performing on par or better than my standalone tomtom. Obviously you don't benefit from the large touchscreen that the tomotm has, but it certainly holds onto a signal better.

I was also very sceptical regarding the thin keys but soon got used to them. More than anything the phone just feels very solid and I've been bashing it around for over a year now. I too thought that by now there would have been a phone that had all of the N82 features but better, but to be honest it has just not happened. I can see my sticking with the phone for some time yet.
nj7
Complete agree with Steve. I try other phones, like G810, N96 (the worst one), E71, E90, 5800 (the second worst...) and always return to N82. Like the previous comment I thing keep my N82 for more time, or even buy a spare N82, since the price drop and itīs a good deal now. Itīs the best camera, GPS, Podcast, and a lot, lot more, always without any reboot and with good battery life (like Steve Said, the low level itīs the screen - dimension and resolution). Sad to see that Nokia itīs on a innovation limit... the time goes away, and nothing match N82.
gavc
Couldn't agree more.

Normally around this time of year I would be pondering my next phone but this year there is no incentive to move on from the N82. Even last year I "downgraded" from the N95 to the N82 and it was such a shrewd move.

I'd live to have the iphone interface but I know that I'd be bitterly disappointed with the camera as photos and video capture are a must (young family). I cannot see an S60 device that I'd want to move to and I certainly am not brave enough to dive into any other flavour of smartphone - I've been there done that and got the finger burn marks to show it.

Rock on N82
highdiver
Yes, you are completely right to put the N82 up on the pedestal, where it belongs!!!

Better late than never... :D
giancian
It does belong on a pedestal! I haven't found a greater phone still... My only gripe would be the small screen, but it helps to keep the petite size on the phone. I've tried the N96, 5800, Touch Diamond, Touch Pro, Omnia, G1, and I always go back to my trusty N82!
Edward Umana
Wow, completely amazed, this is a very good article and I have to say that I enjoyed reading it very much. Sadly the N82 does not have USA 3G :(
joeyfallon
Herself and meself both have one and have never looked back. A sweet, sweet handset and ridiculously cheap with it. To think that none of the Irish operators carried it makes me sad.
clintonjeff
Completely Agree. I cant do without my N82, and there's still no S60 device that I consider an upgrade to it. Once you use the Xenon flash, you simply just cannot do with LED (single or Dual) at all.
MWEB
G810 matched it all the way, and added 3X OZ in to boot :)
Unregistered
My N82 has been my portable media player, a dig cam and web browser. Am sure that the N82 will still remain the best imaging smartphone despite the nearing arrival of the Nokia N86!
n82 addict
i got one (silver) very cheap from subscription...was forced to trade though to "upgrade" to e71...now am back to n82 (black this time)...so far so unmatched: will readily play ipod-sized free video podcasts downloadable from itunes, 5 megapixel of good quality pics, candy bar form (the most rugged, stable, lasting, & durable form factor), long battery life (4 days for me), has all the applications/software i'll ever need (games, bible, office & dictionary). the only way/s it can improve? add dual-led for videos (but retain the xenon for photos), improve screen size to 2.6" or 2.8", amoled, scratch resistant, increase internal memory to 8gb, increase battery capacity (to offset the bigger screen size), replace with qwerty ala e71 (e71 width is still ok for one hand operation) and improve stereo speakers. i dont mind if overall size will increase (heck, i've had the brick e90). i dont want the touchscreen.

long live n87?
Zuber
Come on Steve,

It's bad enough when the Tabloid Press do it.

Do you honestly think putting a rectangular block over the the eyes of someones face really stops them being identified ?

I always found it a bit silly.

I think some scientific research needs to be done into this. Anyone able to recognise any of the children in the picture ? :)
Zuber
Kazutoyo
I totally agree.

I also find it a bit depressing that a ~18 month old device is still the best out there. And really, it still have all the features I want from a mobile device, I just wish for something slimmer (13-14mm instead of 17mm) and with another keypad (the N86 keypad looks very good to me).

A new N82 with the N86 keypad, FP2 and the looks of the E51 would be perfect, although I doubt it's possible to make a good xenon flash device that thin as the xenon flash occupy quite a bit of space. Oh, and the damn media key should go away. No extra keys, I want my symmetric look.
Pawlee
if the device has to be 17mm thick for a xenon flash i REALLY do not mind it bein 17mm thick...
Kazutoyo
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pawlee View Post
if the device has to be 17mm thick for a xenon flash i REALLY do not mind it bein 17mm thick...
It doesn't. 6220 Classic is 15,2mm and I'm sure they would be able to get it below 14mm if they tried, and still give the phone a decent 5mp camera.
jfive
After trying different phones such as iPhone 3g, samsung omni, blackberry bold, etc. I must say that I'm very found of my n95 8gb nam and wouldn't trade it in for nothing. Can't have it all on a device but n95 comes close.
Unregistered
Jon Pritchard

I agree that the N82 is one of the best devices out there still. You cannot match the quality of the shots, although in night shots I get really bad red eye even with the reduction turned on. The keypad was also an initial sticking point for me when I was considering buying it, but it's proved to be fine in day-to-day use.

The only things I wish my N82 had were the battery life that everyone else is talking about, I get barely a day out of mine... thinking about replacing the battery there.

I wander if the Sony Ericsson C905 can compete with these shots, as it too has a Xenon flash but an 8 Megapixel camera.

Despite hardware acceleration FP2 phones like the 5800 and N85 feel faster in day to day use and in video tasks that you would expect the N82 to do better in.

After getting my N82 I wouldn't buy another Nokia without Xenon flash, I don't care if it adds a bit of thickness, the N86 should've had a Xenon flash with a protected lense, and then bar the horrible face keys, it would've been the mobile to get.
josesxi
I agree, this phone is Da Bomb. Specially now that there is a brightness hack.
But a tiny 2'4 screen is a crime.
Unregistered
Its about time Steve, N82 has been drawing legions of supporters all over the world specially now that the price have dropped significantly, I could now see more and more people using it and read more and more positive feedbacks and comments about it. This is the only phone that has this effect after a year or so of existence. Usually support wane out as time pass by but its totally opposite for N82. I could read several comments from people who have been to N95, iPhone, N96, N85, N79, N78, Omnia among others who are now using N82. Isn't that fascinating?
Unregistered
You are absolutely right Steve..and you sure do have good eyes!
I have been looking at the current models of the N series (apart from the N97 of course), the only ones worth buying are either N82, N95/N95 8GB, if you want a true monster phone that is..
Thanks for the review, it makes me more convince on recommending it to someone who is new to S60 phones =D
widehead
Is it worth getting with the N97 so close?

I already have an N95 8GB (and a 5800) but it's getting a little creaky around the edges.

Thoughts?
Hardeep1singh
It is sad that after creating such a fantastic device Nokia went braindead and haven't been able to create anything better. I really hope their creativity hasn't peaked.

N82 is also my weapon of choice and I don't see another device in the market I could 'upgrade' to.
Unregistered
do you think that it is worth to upgrade my n82 to omnia hd?

n82 is really a good phone, but omnia hd looks very promising
morpheus2702
I'm interested... take away the 5MP camera with Xenon flash and lens cover - is the N82 fundamentally better than most N-series phones of the same era?

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