Nokia E90 vs Nokia N810: Part 1 - Hardware & Communications

Published by krisse at 4:13 UTC, January 29th 2008

Summary:

In the first of a short series, I compare the Nokia E90 (a QWERTY-keyboard GPS-equipped smartphone) and the Nokia N810 (a QWERTY-keyboard GPS-equipped internet tablet). In this installment, we take a look at the physical hardware and the communications abilities of the two devices.

Nokia E90 vs Nokia N810: Part 1 - Hardware and Communications

The Smartphone vs The Tablet

Perhaps by pure coincidence, Nokia has recently released two devices with superficially similar specifications, the Nokia E90 and Nokia N810. They both run multitasking operating systems, they both have PC-style web browsers, they both have large bright screens, they both have large built-in QWERTY keyboards and they both have built-in GPS.

However, this isn't the most obvious comparison to make, as the N810 is an "internet tablet" without direct access to the mobile phone network, while the E90 is a smartphone that can connect to just about anything. They've been developed by utterly separate units at Nokia, with completely different design principles, interfaces and operating systems. But that contrast is what makes the comparison potentially very interesting, and that's why we're doing these articles.

To start this series, let's have a very quick look at how they shape up physically, and then look at their communications abilities in a bit more depth.

Hardware

Physically the N810 and E90 look like chalk and cheese until you open them up and then the similarity becomes apparent. Both devices feel very similar to hold when opened, and you can operate them both in a very similar two-thumbed way.

The keyboard keys are a fairly similar size. The N810's keys are perhaps a bit bigger, but the E90 has more keys. The N810 is more satisfying to type on as the keys are clickier, so you feel it more when you press something. Comparisons of the d-pads give similar results, with the N810's being a bit bigger than the E90's internal d-pad, and with a nicer and deeper click when selecting a direction.

The devices screens are the same width physically but the N810's is about a fifth taller. Resolutions are also similar, with the E90 having 800x352 pixes and the N810 clocking up an even more impressive 800x480 pixels. Both screens are very clear and bright, which makes small text highly readable.

The N810's slider feels solid, it's not loose at all. The E90's fold also feels fairly sold but is a bit confusing as it isn't easy to position it in half-way mode, and feels like a 3D puzzle at times.

The N810 has a built-in stand with a range of positions, and the E90 screen can also stand on its own thanks to the weight of the keyboard.

 

Nokia E90 and Nokia N810

Nokia E90 on the left, Nokia N810 on the right. 

 

Communications

Not only can the E90 work like a normal mobile phone, if you close it it even looks exactly like a normal phone, and you hold it just like a normal phone too. The E90's form factor does an effective job of giving us the best of both worlds, with its huge screen PDA when unfolded and its normal-shaped telephone when folded.

However, the N810 wasn't designed as a completely standalone device. It uses the so-called "two box" model, where you use the tablet for internet services and perhaps multimedia, while a separate Bluetooth phone lets you do calls and texts. Like all Nokia's internet tablets, the N810 can connect to the internet not just through Wi-fi but also through any phone that supports the Bluetooth DUN profile, so it can be used on the move just like the E90. Despite its more cumbersome nature, there are many possible advantages in the two-box method, and these have been discussed at length in an earlier AAS article about Semi-Convergence.


Wi-fi and Bluetooth

The N810 seemed to be much better than the E90 at picking up Wi-fi signals, and consistently found more networks than the E90.

The E90 and N810 can be set to continually search for Wi-fi signals and connect to them automatically if possible. The N810 can also be set to automatically connect through your phone through Bluetooth, and it has a third mode (probably the most useful) where it tries to connect to Wi-fi if possible, but defaults to connecting through your phone if it's the only option.

As well as connecting to phones, the N810 can simultaneously also connect to Bluetooth keyboards and headsets. The E90 can also connect to keyboards and headsets, and has a wider range of headset profiles including A2DP stereo sound.

 

Nokia E90 and Nokia N810 in telephony modes
 
E90 in its "normal phone" mode, N810 on Skype's keypad section.


Internet Telephony

Both the E90 and N810 support VOIP services which allow free internet calls and cheap calls to landlines and mobile phone.

The E90 requires you to either install a third party VOIP application or enter the required SIP settings manually, which is quite frankly a real pain. If your phone network operator offers VOIP you may be able to get the settings from them automatically, and businesses would certainly have support staff to set up VOIP.

Although the N810 can use SIP settings just like the E90, there's a much much easier option which is doing a far better job of bringing VOIP to the masses: a full, free, official, easy-to-use Skype client which works on all types of connections including Wi-fi and phone networks (you can even use it on slow 2G phone networks if you can bear the lower sound quality). There's no need to fiddle around with any settings at all, you just install the Skype client, enter or register a username and password, and it works, just like on a PC. As well as providing free Skype-to-Skype calls, it can effectively turn the tablet into a phone if you use the optional pay-for SkypeIn and SkypeOut services (SkypeIn gives the Skype account a real phone number, SkypeOut lets it call real phone numbers).

The main catch with telephony on the N810 is that you cannot hold it up to your ear the way you can with the E90, and tablet users have to make do either with speakerphone mode, headphones or wireless Bluetooth headset. The sound quality is fine in all these modes, but it's awkward to use on the move and the tablet's telephony features are probably best appreciated at home. The E90 is far more comfortable for voice calls when you're out and about.

Another snag with Skype (or any other VOIP service) is that you may have to pay data charges if you use it through a phone connection. As always if you're not sure, check with your phone network to find out what your data charges are before you do anything internet-related on your phone.

There's no technical reason why the E90 couldn't have Skype too, and some rather complicated workarounds have been devised to achieve this, but for some reason Skype seems reluctant to issue an official client for Symbian-based phones. Technical problems were cited by Skype a year ago, but it seems unlikely that these alone would have delayed it for so long while other VOIP operators released Symbian clients with no problems.

 

Nokia E90 and Nokia N810 accessing Gmail
 
This is what you see if you visit gmail.com on the E90 and N810. The E90 is disappointingly auto-forwarded to the mobile version, while the N810 gets the full PC version.


Email

Both the E90 and N810 have simple straightforward built-in email clients that support attachments and downloading of email for offline reading, and there are more sophisticated third party email clients if you don't like the built-in one.

However, the E90 has a massive advantage when it comes to corporate email, as this is one of the features that defines the entire Communicator series. As well as the usual IMAP4 and POP3 accounts, the E90 is compatible with Blackberry Connect, Good Mobile Messaging, Intellisync v8.0, Mail for Exchange v1.5 and Seven Mobile Mail. By comparison, the N810 isn't a business device, and its mail client can only manage IMAP4 and POP3.

The devices can also both use webmail through their browsers, though the N810's browser and slightly larger screen and touch interface are probably more suited to this. The N810 can also use services such as Gmail in their full versions, whereas the E90's S60 browser tends to get automatically redirected to the mobile version of Gmail.

[Note though that the E90 is quite happy with Google's GMail mobile client, providing an arguably better experience than the webmail version - Ed]

Instant Messaging

As with all current S60 devices, the E90's built-in IM client is very basic and (on the SIM-free version) has no built-in settings at all. It seems to be largely designed for phone network operators' own IM services, which would come with settings built-in. You'll probably want to install a third party IM application so that you can use popular services like MSN, AOL, Yahoo, ICQ, etc, and fortunately there are plenty of these for the S60 3rd Edition platform, e.g. Agile Messenger, IM+ etc.

The N810's built-in client, called Chat, is slightly better as it has built-in settings for Google Talk and Jabber, so you can just enter your existing username and password to access those services, or register as a new user. There's a public beta version of Chat which is compatible with a much wider range of services, so Chat should be improving in the next firmware update. In the meantime, you can access AOL, MSN, ICQ, etc. by installing the third party freeware application Pidgin, which is available as a direct download straight onto the tablet from the official Maemo web site.

It's worth emphasising that on both devices the QWERTY keyboards and large screens make messaging a much more pleasant experience than on normal-sized phones.

Krisse, All About Symbian, 29 Jan 2008 


 

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Discussion

jpwbamber
iskoot, Skype approved client for Nokia E90 is available.
www.iskoot.com
It is listed as for Nokia N95 and Nokia E90. I have only tried it with N95 where it works as expected.
Unregistered
Can anyone say if the WI FI mode on N810 has the 802.1x support and LEAP protocol option ? This is present on the E90 all do not on any other N series WI FI enabled smartphone ....

Wondering how its here .

Regards L.
Unregistered
I use Fring on my E90 to use Skype, Twitter and eventually MSN.
But in download! I found a Win Mobile application which installs an MSN IM client and setups the standard email-inbox in "messages" for your hotmail address.
Hardeep1singh
I hope nokia someday comes out with a complete phone based on linux, would sure love to try that out, somehow I feel I'm starting to get bored of the same old S60 User Interface (with few small changes) on every S60 device. Even if a person's been using Symbian 7 and now gets a brand new Symbian 9.2, the look hasn't changed much, the inbuilt IM app is still as dead as it used to be and the inbuilt Messaging client still can't access html mails, seems like we'll have to live with it forever. I understand that under the hood, S60 is miles better than what it used to be but Nokia shouldn't just miss out on the basics.
N810 sounds like a pretty impressive device, i only wish it was a complete phone, this 2 box formula is really not my cup of tea.
Richard Ross
Hardeep's right about the S60v3 interface - it needs a crap load of work, especially if it's to keep pace with Apple and the plethora of front-end apps for WinMob.

Not really fair to compare an in-built UI with a 3rd-party modification on WinMob but as WinMob is utterly dreadful without mods (and even HTC are shipping Today screen add-ins), it's probably valid for many user experiences.

Anyway, on topic, the 810 is an extraordinary device. I've been hugely sceptical of the two-box model but this thing is good enough to make it work. Combined with, say, an E51, it's a killer set of capabilities in two convenient boxes. Worth thinking about if (a) you do alot of Web work when mobile or (b) you find extended work on a standard (even E90) smartphone screen tiring/hard on the eyes.
GNUdista
Thank you for covering the Nokia N810. I use the Nokia N810 with the E90. The N810 does have better wifi reception and so it is the indispensable device. Linux is the operating system of the future as Nokia's very recent and clever acquisition of Trolltech attests. As much as we would love for Nokia to catch up to the Psion Series 5mx one day, a Linux version would be even better.

SkypeIn and SkypeOut do not work. The payment system does not accept payments from foreign countries and payments sent through bank transfers are lost and not credited to the account. Avoid Skype. Gizmo is an early adopter of Linux and accepts credit card payments from multiple countries without hassle or theft. It is a far more reliable solution than Skype. Gizmo beat Skype to Linux and Gizmo beat Skype to Maemo. Gizmo is also available for the E90.

Mail for Exchange v1.5 is not a business device. The N810 is a beta business device, and its mail client can manage IMAP4 and POP3. Additional features are easy for any corporation to add because the operating system and software is free and open source, meaning they can not only look at the source code, they are free to modify it for their corporate needs. Priceless.
The problem with the E90's Gmail mobile client is that when there is no connection available, it is almost unusable offline. Because prepaid GPRS mobile data costs as much as ten thousand Euros per Megabyte in some countries, the telephone feature of the E90 is almost useless. Better to buy a Nokia N810 which can pick up wifi signals much better.

The E90 suffers from undersized internal and external screens and poorly placed internal buttons on the screen panel. Most software that runs on Linux can be ported to the Nokia N810 but the mobile browser can still crash and quickly runs out of memory when opening multiple browser windows. An extra SDHC slot to increase system memory would be welcome. The miniSD slot seems quirky especially when you consider that the Nokia N800 offers two SDHC slots. Also the IBM Thinkpad has used a Trackpoint clitoral pointer for decades even on much larger devices. Nokia continues to waste keyboard space with a giant navigation square which could easily be moved away from the keyboard or myriad other solutions found which do not elbow out keyboard space.

It's worth emphasising that on both devices the QWERTY keyboards make messaging a much less pleasant experience than on normal-sized Psion Series 5mxs.
krisse
Just like to emphasise that this is just the FIRST part. The next parts will cover web browsing and the interfaces themselves.

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Hardeep's right about the S60v3 interface - it needs a crap load of work, especially if it's to keep pace with Apple and the plethora of front-end apps for WinMob.
I think the barrier to change is S60's huge success. S60 has a market share of something like 50% (Symbian's share is even bigger because it includes UIQ) which means it's the same size as all its rivals put together.

If you're in that kind of overwhelming position, there's tremendous business pressures not to make any radical changes because going by the sales figures it appears to be a winning formula.

It's easy to say another product is better, but until the sales start changing then it may not have much effect on a company. Windows Mobile and iPhone have very small shares of the market, so even if they get good reviews they won't necessarily have that much effect on how their rivals behave.
krisse
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Originally Posted by GNUdista View Post
SkypeIn and SkypeOut do not work.
If that was actually true, Skype would have no income whatsoever.


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The payment system does not accept payments from foreign countries
It does, I'm a witness, I've seen it work. :-)


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Gizmo is an early adopter of Linux
Yes, but Skype has the advantage of a bigger membership. As member-to-member calls are absolutely free, this is a big advantage for users.

I'm not saying that's fair, but it's true, you can't avoid network effects when discussing these kinds of services.

And the overwhelming reason people use VOIP services at all is because they're cheap or free, they don't give a monkeys what technologies they use. All they care about is whether VOIP can reduce their phone bill.


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Because prepaid GPRS mobile data costs as much as ten thousand Euros per Megabyte in some countries
Which countries?

Here in Finland data costs about 1 euro per megabyte, not 10,000. And if you take a flat rate data plan here, you can have unlimited uncapped mobile internet for about 10 to 20 euros a month so it's perfectly possible to use a phone connection for VOIP.

I agree data used to be prohibitively expensive for many years, but recent times have seen data prices tumbling.
malerocks
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Originally Posted by GNUdista View Post
prepaid GPRS mobile data costs as much as ten thousand Euros per Megabyte in some countries
Ridiculous!!! What 4th world country are you talking about? I am in India and here I pay Rs. 350 per month (About 6 Euros) for unlimited data access. Yes, we do not yet have 3G implemented here, but the speeds available over EDGE are not bad either. I am still able to use fring to make VoIP calls and download videos on emTube as acceptable speeds (a little patience required though).
epo.fm
I wish Nokia would at least introuduce a version of the N810 with a built in phone.

It looks like a gorgrous device & would at least be strong alternative for those looking at the iPhone form factor.
krisse
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Yes, we do not yet have 3G implemented here, but the speeds available over EDGE are not bad either.
Malerocks, a fully working EDGE (2.5G) connection is fast enough for Skype on the tablet, you don't need 3G, though of course if the connection you're on is congested the speed may drop.

I even managed to get Skype to work with a 2G connection which is dialup speed! (Though the sound quality isn't brilliant on 2G.)


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I wish Nokia would at least introuduce a version of the N810 with a built in phone.
They already did, sort of, in 2004/2005. It was called the Nokia 7710. It had an entirely touchscreen-driven interface and a "full blown" web browser, and it was apparently the starting point for the whole Internet Tablet series:

http://www.forum.nokia.com/devices/7710

I don't know why they removed the cellular compatibility when they moved onto the tablets... perhaps they were afraid of it competing with their S60-based phones?
tutti
Hi Krisse,
About using www.gmail.com on the E90, to get the full version login then scroll down and choose view gmail in desktop version. (i use imap in my messagin client). Same with google.com and amazon.com.
Unregistered
Quote:
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The payment system does not accept payments from foreign countries
It does, I'm a witness, I've seen it work. :-)
Skype does have issues with some Indian credit cards at least .
The one time I tried to buy some skypeout credits, they accepted my credit card number and sent me an email THREE days later - Your transaction has been rejected (or something similar, I cant recollect exactly). No explanation was given.
And they took three days in a time when one can complete a transaction online in less than a minute.

This is a perfectly valid international credit card that I regularly use a couple of times a week before and after this incident, and both in Asia and Europe.

I never tried buying anything from Skype again because they made me feel really small.
Unregistered
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Originally Posted by malerocks View Post
Ridiculous!!! What 4th world country are you talking about? I am in India and here I pay Rs. 350 per month (About 6 Euros) for unlimited data access. Yes, we do not yet have 3G implemented here, but the speeds available over EDGE are not bad either. I am still able to use fring to make VoIP calls and download videos on emTube as acceptable speeds (a little patience required though).
Hi Malerocks,

Would you mind telling me who your provider is?
I am with BPL Mobile and I have to shell out Rs. 500 a month (9 Euros) for unlimited data access.
Unregistered
On the N800 at least (with stereo speakers in the front, not sides), you can simply turn the volume way down, and hold it as a handset. The sound can only be heard by you, and the microphone is adequately sensitive to be no problem, despite not being positioned for this use.

On the N810 (which I don't have) the side-mounted speakers probably project more sound away when it's held like that, but I'd guess it still works fine, with minimal third-party audibility.

--Benson

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