Nokia 5250, 5230, 5800 comparison - what's been cut?

Shouldn't you be comparing the 5250 to the 5530 instead? The 5530 was a cheap phone earlier this year back when CPW was pushing it.

Any source for that statement please.

£99 5530 last xmas links:
http://tinyurl.com/34whcv3

5530 current CPW price:
http://tinyurl.com/3a6oxde

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http://www.nokia.co.uk/find-products...specifications

Actually, the point about 5530 is interesting. It lacks GPS, 3G, but is equipped with wifi. It also has a 2.8" screen, but was more stylish and more expensive than the 5230 at launch.

I did think about including the 5530 - and you're right it probably is a closer companion. However the 5230 is the cheap phone of the moment (generally it is a bit cheaper than the 5530 - though there was that fantastic deal last Christmas)... and the 5800 is what started things off (I was trying to illustrate the change over time).

There's also a case for including some of the 5230 variants - most notably the 5233 - which is the 3G-less and GPS-less variant of the 5230.

But yes you could include the 5530 - and it is an interesting combo - one that doesn't quite work for me - I'd rather have GPS than WiFi. However, I did really like the design of the 5530. The 5250 seems to be a cross of the design of the X6, 5230 and 5530.

The inclusion of WiFi but not 3G seems to be either for territories without a well developed 3G infrastructure, and for kids - a cheap phone with no monthly data contract. Although it should be noted in countries like the UK data is available cheaply on PAYG.

Yes Rafe, the 5530 was quite the odd man out. But it does work for certain category of people, for instance - my sister.

She is happy with the phone since its a Xpressmusic phone and plays good music for her. She jumps onto the touchscreen bandwagon and does not have any issues with the Symbian UI. For the occasional data usage (checking email and chatting with folks over IM), she simply connects to the wifi setup at my house.

Because she is normal.

I think the 5250 is wonderful. And for all you high end lovers, the low end is actually more important because it strengthens the whole platform and provides a much bigger base for developers to write to, and other companies to support in various ways.

And why SHOULDN'T the vast number of people who can't afford more than £50 for a PAYG phone, have a powerful Symbian device rather than yet another cheapo featurephone?

Thank God for Nokia/Symbian, that people don't have rip-off underpowered and poorly engineered Android and iPhone devices, or otherwise featurephones, as their only choices for the next generation of personal computers (as 'phones' are now).

Indeed those who ignore the implications of devices such as the 5250 do so at their peril.

Yes you can hype them too much the other way too... but really I think there's little danger of that consider the current attention they get.

Indeed it would be interesting if the 5530 and 5233 were in that chart even though not in the article itself :) . It is strange that the 5230 has less battery life than the 5800 too. My cousin said my 5230's screen is more responsive than his 5800. Don't know why but it could be just the brand of screen protector he has on. 5230/5233 has been top sellers here (SE Asia). Comes with 2GBmicroSD and stylus like the 5800.

Nokia 5800 XpressMusic, the first touch screen phone prototype, still rocks!!

The Nokia 5230 together with the Nokia X6 is test winner at Stiftung Warentest from Germany. They tested 18 Smartphones (inclusive iPhone 4 and Androids).

Stiftung Warentest is the most famous and serious test institute of Germany with no commercial interests (supported by governement). In their monthly magazine with the test reports there are no advertisements to be absolutely independent from manufacturers.

http://www.test.de/themen/computer-t...27133-4127135/

nokia is so boring now Zz..Zz no inovation no divx codec (i must waste my time to convert) on their $500 phone no 3D Hardware Accelerator on Symbian^1 no significan diferent hardware from $500 phone to $180 phone (they only can do is change homescreen so riduculious) still use limited hardware on Symbian (RAM even on $300 phone) that's a bad joke nokia.

you are lucky have pc to convert movie. i don't have pc so i can't watch movie from my symbian phone.. i can't buy 3rd party aplication because i don't have credit card , pay pal or other. hey Nokia any solution for people like me?

Thanks for all that new information. We didn't know any of that.
Duh.

What is it with all the fandroids???? I can understand it if you are a former Nokia/Symbian user and felt frustrated by it. All fine and dandy but it gets irritating real quick when I come to a Symbian site and 95% of the comments are:
"Too little, too late."
"The UI is clunky and unintuitive." And similar.
Why did Nokia do this or that?
I can put up with this BS when I visit Engadget e.t.c but ON A SYMBIAN SITE, come on.:icon13:

If it was left up to you guys, the solution to 99% of the World's problems would be to "put Android on it". I was pissed at the iPhone OS (now iOS) fanboys during the height of their mania when they were all berserk and frothing at the mouth and I will also stand against all this Android mania. To each his own and let him be.

I read in the last paragraph "as an attractive upgrade for a sub-£100 feature phone owner"

Unfortunatly whar=t Nokia don't seem to realise is that many of these sub-£100 feature phones DO have 3G. This makes the 5150 a LESS attractive upgrade.

I think that Nokia wants to tackle the Samsung Star or the LG Cookie with this device but I doubt it will make a dent in their popularity. In fact Nokia's own cheaper offering at £80 still looks a better alternative than this. It looks good though. They ought to to replace the 5230 with this kinda look. In fact they should replace the entire 5x-series with the old style rounded design with this design. It looks much better.

As for the many (negative) comments on Symbian OS. It may not look as flashy as iOS or Android. But lets not forget that

a) Symbian is the most stable Smartphone OS out there
b) it uses the least resources to be fully usable (unlike many other smart phone OS's) (e.g. the new MS wm7 requires a 1GHz cpu!!!)

And lets be honest... it really, really, really doesn't look THAT bad. :-)

The absence of Carl Zeiss on the mid-low end models is becoming increasingly more common. That would rank quite high for me as a reason to not get one..

In what territory? A mistake often made when looking at these phones is to think parochially. Nokia are global and are selling phones into territories that have poor or non-existing 3G networks, so a phone with 3G has no advantage there. PEven in countries where the network providers claim to have good coverage, I have found the reality to be something less than adequate. Many people don't care. And if they do, Nokia already make sub 100 phones with 3G. This 5150 is expected to be even less expensive, and will suit those who are needing something low cost that can play their music and send/recieve texts.

The requirements of individual buyers vary a great deal, and it would be a mistake for any individual to assume their needs are everybodys needs.

for me 5800 is best. its has better look than that of others.