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Nokia C5 - classic style candy bar at €135, first Cseries
Published by Rafe Blandford at 10:25 UTC, March 2nd 2010
Today, at CeBIT, Nokia announced the Nokia C5. It is a S60 3rd Edition Feature Pack 2 handset, in a candy bar form factor with a 2.2" screen and a 3.2 megapixel camera. It is the first in Nokia's new Cseries range, which represents the 'core portfolio' range of products, and will ship in the second quarter of 2010 at a price of €135 (about £122) before taxes and subsidies.
Key hardware features
- 12 x 46 x 112mm in dimensions (56cc volume), 89.3g in weight; candy bar form factor with a mix of steel and plastic used in casing materials.
- 2.2 inch screen; 240 x 320 pixels resolution (same as Nokia 5630 and 6700 slide)
- 3.2 megapixel camera with LED flash (EDoF system, as in E52 and E55); video recording at VGA resolution and 15 frames per second.
- Integrated A-GPS
- 3.5 mm AV connector, IHF speakers, stereo FM radio (with RDS)
- BL-5CT (860mAh) Li-Ion battery - charging via USB is supported
- Quad band GSM and dual band WCDMA (900/2100 Mhz) with HSDPA (10.2 Mbps) and HSUPA (2 Mbps).
- 50MB of internal memory, 2GB microSD card included in the retail box (selected markets)
- Initially available in two colours: white and warm gray
- Included in the box: Nokia C5-00, Nokia 2GB microSD Card (MU-37), Nokia Connectivity Cable (C101D), Nokia Stereo Headset (WH-102), Nokia High Efficiency Charger (AC-8), Nokia Battery (BL-5CT), and User guide
White and warm gray colour variants
Key software features
- Runs S60 3rd Edition Feature Pack 2 (S60 3.2.2).
- Customisable homescreen featuring 'Contact bar' and 'App Shortcut bar'.
- Ships with Ovi Maps 3.4 (including free life time navigation), Nokia Messaging (both email and instant messaging).
- Facebook status features in the phone's address book (see your friends current status messages).
- Bounce Tales and Brain Training games bundled, further games and applications via Ovi Store.
More information is available at Nokia Conversations and the Nokia Bulletin Board.
News Discussion
thedream
i must say for the general public this is one of the nicest canybar phone offers in history. free navigation??
its probably the most value for the money in the market for €135.- A symbian phone with free navigation that cheap? daaamn!! I can see my mother and 12year old brother loving this, now all of a sudden they're gonna Skype on this, VoIP, e-mail, chat, twitter, facebook, sync with their laptops. Shoot they're gonna be doing the same thing i do with my E71!
I can see this selling like hotcakes!
its probably the most value for the money in the market for €135.- A symbian phone with free navigation that cheap? daaamn!! I can see my mother and 12year old brother loving this, now all of a sudden they're gonna Skype on this, VoIP, e-mail, chat, twitter, facebook, sync with their laptops. Shoot they're gonna be doing the same thing i do with my E71!
I can see this selling like hotcakes!
malerocks
Whats a "core portfolio" series? And what kind of users is this C Series targeted at? E.g. X series is music, N series is multimedia, E series is business users, etc.
If this 1st model is an indication, does not look like the C Series are going to be expensive phones.
If this 1st model is an indication, does not look like the C Series are going to be expensive phones.
Rafe
From the Nokia Conversations blog:
From the Nokia Bulletin Board:
In other words you might also terms it classic series, or communication series?
Amazing value in a handset - really starts to bring home idea of solutions as the future for the mid tier too.
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| Nseries remains the flagship and most advanced range of products. Xseries comes next and focuses on social entertainment. Eseries remains focussed on productivity and business whilst Cseries represents the core range of products. |
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| The new Cseries represents the core of Nokia portfolio, focusing on social interaction between friends and family. |
Amazing value in a handset - really starts to bring home idea of solutions as the future for the mid tier too.
Unregistered
According to thenokiablog, "The new Cseries represents the core of Nokia portfolio, focusing on social interaction between friends and family."
So I guess it's about "connecting people more smartly" and you can probably expect an emphasis in contacts and messaging on the default homescreen configuration. I read somewhere that this has facebook and other social networking integrated into (for example) contacts. This is also probably an indicator that you shouldn't expect to see massive screens on the Cseries, since those are more necessary for Xseries (entertainment), Eseries (productivity) and Nseries (best tech). BTW, did you see the bit about the numbers too?
Nokia Conversations: "within each series of devices, we’re seeing a new range of numbers, from 1 to 9, each signifying the range of functionality on offer, and the approximate prices of the devices – 1 being the lowest and 9 being the highest."
For me at least, this looks like a great deal at probably £120 sim-free inc VAT, I wouldn't be surprised to see these on sale for less than a hundred quid PAYG soon. I can think of a number of people for who this would be a perfect phone, and well within their budgets.
So I guess it's about "connecting people more smartly" and you can probably expect an emphasis in contacts and messaging on the default homescreen configuration. I read somewhere that this has facebook and other social networking integrated into (for example) contacts. This is also probably an indicator that you shouldn't expect to see massive screens on the Cseries, since those are more necessary for Xseries (entertainment), Eseries (productivity) and Nseries (best tech). BTW, did you see the bit about the numbers too?
Nokia Conversations: "within each series of devices, we’re seeing a new range of numbers, from 1 to 9, each signifying the range of functionality on offer, and the approximate prices of the devices – 1 being the lowest and 9 being the highest."
For me at least, this looks like a great deal at probably £120 sim-free inc VAT, I wouldn't be surprised to see these on sale for less than a hundred quid PAYG soon. I can think of a number of people for who this would be a perfect phone, and well within their budgets.
adi_pie
I still like to think the C stands for cheap. :P
With a price this low and a so many features with only one flaw, the screen which is just too small for me though I doubt normals/not geeks will care about it that much, I imagine this thing will sell like hotcakes.
With a price this low and a so many features with only one flaw, the screen which is just too small for me though I doubt normals/not geeks will care about it that much, I imagine this thing will sell like hotcakes.
malerocks
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the screen which is just too small for me though I doubt normals/not geeks will care about it that much
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shadamehr
To add to what has been touched on in points above, one wonders when we will see this Contacts Bar Standby Screen make it to existing phones such as the E72, N86 etc.
Though that might not happen for a while due to the E72 having predictive text searching of contacts already from the standby screen, and this feature also likely needing a Firmware Update.
But on that note, I see nearly all existing FP2 devices seeing a Firmware Update in the coming months, merely to incorporate Ovi Maps 3.4 in Firmware, if nothing else, so they could slip this new Standby screen in then.
The feature whereby Facebook Status of existing Contacts is shown in the Contacts Database however, is CERTAINLY a feature I would expect to see rolled out universally, else something I would certainly DESIRE to see rolled out universally.
(As a side note, the delayed Nokia 6700 Slide, originally due start of March, is technically the first phone to see this new Contacts Standby Theme Bar on a standard keyboard device, so one wonders if the 6700 will also have the Facebook Status Updates in the Contacts Application too).
Watch this space, but I for one certainly wholly expect Nokia to make these features available to existing suitable handsets in the coming months too. It would be a poor policy indeed were they not to.
Though that might not happen for a while due to the E72 having predictive text searching of contacts already from the standby screen, and this feature also likely needing a Firmware Update.
But on that note, I see nearly all existing FP2 devices seeing a Firmware Update in the coming months, merely to incorporate Ovi Maps 3.4 in Firmware, if nothing else, so they could slip this new Standby screen in then.
The feature whereby Facebook Status of existing Contacts is shown in the Contacts Database however, is CERTAINLY a feature I would expect to see rolled out universally, else something I would certainly DESIRE to see rolled out universally.
(As a side note, the delayed Nokia 6700 Slide, originally due start of March, is technically the first phone to see this new Contacts Standby Theme Bar on a standard keyboard device, so one wonders if the 6700 will also have the Facebook Status Updates in the Contacts Application too).
Watch this space, but I for one certainly wholly expect Nokia to make these features available to existing suitable handsets in the coming months too. It would be a poor policy indeed were they not to.
limestone
I'm inclined to agree with one of the comments above. C = Cheap.
I think this is a clear indication of Nokia's intent on dominating the "middle" of the mass market and introducing phones to lower income countries.
We have heard it in almost every interview with Nokia. They are aiming at India, and Africa.
I think for those of us that are clinging desperately to the hope that Nokia is going to produce a high end product, I think we may go down with the ship. I see people leaving Nokia and heading to Android based platforms like the HTC Desire, Legend and Nexus One in droves.
We should not at all be surprised by a "C" series device. After all, Nokia is in the business of making money, and they know where the "fat" mass market part of the economy is right now.
It's probably a very sensible business decision made by very sensible Finnish businessmen in equally sensible grey suits.
I think this is a clear indication of Nokia's intent on dominating the "middle" of the mass market and introducing phones to lower income countries.
We have heard it in almost every interview with Nokia. They are aiming at India, and Africa.
I think for those of us that are clinging desperately to the hope that Nokia is going to produce a high end product, I think we may go down with the ship. I see people leaving Nokia and heading to Android based platforms like the HTC Desire, Legend and Nexus One in droves.
We should not at all be surprised by a "C" series device. After all, Nokia is in the business of making money, and they know where the "fat" mass market part of the economy is right now.
It's probably a very sensible business decision made by very sensible Finnish businessmen in equally sensible grey suits.
Mr Mark
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Uninterested
It's a nice phone for normal humans, moves S60 and smartphone features over S40 territory. I don't see any mention of WiFi, which is what those of us that have to deal with very poor 3G coverage need.
Nice at the price. Like a modern N70.
Nice at the price. Like a modern N70.
Unregistered
@limestone: "I think for those of us that are clinging desperately to the hope that Nokia is going to produce a high end product, I think we may go down with the ship. I see people leaving Nokia and heading to Android based platforms like the HTC Desire, Legend and Nexus One in droves."
Ha ha that's funny, I like a good joke :)
Android based platforms eh? Oh yes, that's why Gartner's latest numbers the other day showed only 7m Android sales in the last year vs 80m Symbian. Yeah, that's people leaving in droves alright, of course :) And that's why Nokia smartphone share saw a huge 5% growth of the smartphone market in the pre-Christmas quarter while iPhone saw flat growth (shocking given that's their main growth quarter traditionally).
Oh and Android is STILL totally inferior, and indeed pointless, compared to Symbian which beats it on every point now (well, UI is still a patch behind until Symbian ^3 release in Q2).
I wouldn't touch an Android device with a barge pole. Apart from the hardware being vastly inferior to Nokia's, and more expensive, the OS is immature, incomplete, a pathetic and broken app store that's making no money for developers, and an SDK that's driving devs nuts and changes almost daily. Steer clear I reckon.
I think we all know full well that new high end Nokia handsets will be announce shortly (this month I believe), run on Symbian ^3, and frankly blow the competition away in the high end. Meanwhile the next iPhone will excite a few Apple-lovers for a month and do nothing to improve Apple's flat market share.
Honestly if anyone believes Android represents the slightest threat to Symbian you need a reality check. As a mobile software developer I am SO glad I didn't believe the hype and get involved with that platform.
Ha ha that's funny, I like a good joke :)
Android based platforms eh? Oh yes, that's why Gartner's latest numbers the other day showed only 7m Android sales in the last year vs 80m Symbian. Yeah, that's people leaving in droves alright, of course :) And that's why Nokia smartphone share saw a huge 5% growth of the smartphone market in the pre-Christmas quarter while iPhone saw flat growth (shocking given that's their main growth quarter traditionally).
Oh and Android is STILL totally inferior, and indeed pointless, compared to Symbian which beats it on every point now (well, UI is still a patch behind until Symbian ^3 release in Q2).
I wouldn't touch an Android device with a barge pole. Apart from the hardware being vastly inferior to Nokia's, and more expensive, the OS is immature, incomplete, a pathetic and broken app store that's making no money for developers, and an SDK that's driving devs nuts and changes almost daily. Steer clear I reckon.
I think we all know full well that new high end Nokia handsets will be announce shortly (this month I believe), run on Symbian ^3, and frankly blow the competition away in the high end. Meanwhile the next iPhone will excite a few Apple-lovers for a month and do nothing to improve Apple's flat market share.
Honestly if anyone believes Android represents the slightest threat to Symbian you need a reality check. As a mobile software developer I am SO glad I didn't believe the hype and get involved with that platform.
clonmult
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I'm sorry, I didn't see the bit where they said they were going to stop making N, X and E Series phones.
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A 5230 is as quick and has the same basic functionality as the N97. Huge price differential that isn't justified by the extra memory, keyboard, wifi and compass. Proves that the N97 is a hugely profitable device for Nokia though.
Few years back Nokia were claiming that they were wanting to replace S40 with S60 devices - this is definitely starting to happen. They also stated an intention for the high end to be Maemo devices - thats already happening.
Rafe
I think the timelines (with regards to platform development) are such that there's been an emphasis on mid tier and low end phones recently. However there's defintely some high end stuff on the way.
fakefur
@limestone ... don't waste your breath on reasoned arguments or comments ... here be nokia fanboys and apologists who can see nothing wrong with anything nokia do no matter how egregious
just pack up and move on to a high-end platform that has the support of a major *software* company behind it and don't look back ... you won't be alone
just pack up and move on to a high-end platform that has the support of a major *software* company behind it and don't look back ... you won't be alone
buster
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@limestone ... don't waste your breath on reasoned arguments or comments ... here be nokia fanboys and apologists who can see nothing wrong with anything nokia do no matter how egregious
just pack up and move on to a high-end platform that has the support of a major *software* company behind it and don't look back ... you won't be alone |
There is plenty wrong with what Nokia do, as many who post here will confirm. However, just because others don't agree with you does not make them wrong or make them necessarily a fanboy...
Ammar_Dento
And how can i see the Facebook status update? What detail i need to add to the Contacts to see its update? And where will i read it? In the Contacts list or in the Homescreen?
By the way...Stop being so Apple-ish, Nokia dont make +800$ devices only because it dont sell it phones in US only. Did you forget the N9x,N8x,N7x? its the same thing. Now instead of N7x we have Cx.
By the way...Stop being so Apple-ish, Nokia dont make +800$ devices only because it dont sell it phones in US only. Did you forget the N9x,N8x,N7x? its the same thing. Now instead of N7x we have Cx.
fakefur
@buster ... really? android and apple are flat? implying they are peaking or what? what is it you are trying to say with that comment?
and my comment was more aimed towards the blatantly obnoxious fanboy (sorry developer) who lambasted limestone for even implying the obvious truth about nokia high end devices ... that is the sort of fanboyism that makes it pointless to share reasoned arguments
and my comment was more aimed towards the blatantly obnoxious fanboy (sorry developer) who lambasted limestone for even implying the obvious truth about nokia high end devices ... that is the sort of fanboyism that makes it pointless to share reasoned arguments
Unregistered
@rafe
"However there's defintely some high end stuff on the way."
when do you think this will come? i'm holding out for high cameraphone stuff from nokia and my trusty n82 is gettting ready for retirement!
aidan
"However there's defintely some high end stuff on the way."
when do you think this will come? i'm holding out for high cameraphone stuff from nokia and my trusty n82 is gettting ready for retirement!
aidan
clonmult
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@rafe
"However there's defintely some high end stuff on the way." when do you think this will come? i'm holding out for high cameraphone stuff from nokia and my trusty n82 is gettting ready for retirement! aidan |
If they follow the herd and just go for more pixels, whilst keeping a weak LED lighting unit, all you'll have is a marginally better camera in good lighting and something that is considerably worse indoors.
Unregistered
"If they follow the herd and just go for more pixels, whilst keeping a weak LED lighting unit, all you'll have is a marginally better camera in good lighting and something that is considerably worse indoors."
true, but if nokia do something like a satio, xenon and led, then there's some hope. a nokia x6 type style phone with both kinds of flashes and a lens cover and 8mp would be a good start. can't be too hard, eh?
aidan
true, but if nokia do something like a satio, xenon and led, then there's some hope. a nokia x6 type style phone with both kinds of flashes and a lens cover and 8mp would be a good start. can't be too hard, eh?
aidan
adi_pie
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I see people leaving Nokia and heading to Android based platforms like the HTC Desire, Legend and Nexus One in droves.
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Originally Posted by fakefur
just pack up and move on to a high-end platform that has the support of a major *software* company behind it and don't look back ... you won't be alone
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Edit: In what way is Google a much bigger software company than Nokia? Off the top of my head the only thing Google has and Nokia does not, is a search engine.
Edit2: I was wrong, see below.
moonshot
It's not new, it's the 5630 music xpress but without the music features, and is dressed up to look like the 6700.
Nokia are hoping that the 6700 users won't notice that they have then bought into a more complicated handset.
It has almost all the features of the N97 without the price tag.
Nokia are hoping that the 6700 users won't notice that they have then bought into a more complicated handset.
It has almost all the features of the N97 without the price tag.
Mnia786
Seems to be Nokias plan of replacing Series 40 with S60...
Very good buy for about 100 quid as its got most of the core features as many N-Series and E-Series handsets.
Very good buy for about 100 quid as its got most of the core features as many N-Series and E-Series handsets.
germcevoy
Looked at for what it is then this is a stunner. Looks brilliant and at a very fair price. Why all the bullshit talk about Android and high end stuff in the comments?
buster
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@buster ... really? android and apple are flat? implying they are peaking or what? what is it you are trying to say with that comment?
and my comment was more aimed towards the blatantly obnoxious fanboy (sorry developer) who lambasted limestone for even implying the obvious truth about nokia high end devices ... that is the sort of fanboyism that makes it pointless to share reasoned arguments |
While you have a point about fanboyism (is that a real word?), when you make sweeping generalisations like "don't waste your breath on reasoned arguments or comments ... here be nokia fanboys and apologists who can see nothing wrong with anything nokia do no matter how egregious" then people are entitled to be less than impressed.
Anyway, I just hope Nokia sort themselves out and start developing high-end phones which actually work; that said, the C5 does look like a mighty impressive phone, especially when considering the price.
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