How to: Get Nokia Messaging

[slitchfield]

If you already have Nokia Messaging installed and working then this will seem old hat to you, but in the interests of completeness, and for newcomers to Symbian and S60, Asri al-Baker explains the different ways to get Nokia Messaging on your nearest and dearest. Asri's planning other articles in this series on Nokia Messaging, so do please give him some feedback.

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Hi Asri,

In the latest AAS podcast, Steve, Rafe and Ewan mentioned sometime about payments for the use of Nokia Messaging. Probably all will be free except for the push email part.
Do you have any sight on the cost for this?

Regards,
Martain Spierings

[asri]

Martain,

1. Nokia Messaging will be offered as a paid service in the future.

2. Some telcos like SingTel in Singapore, already offering Nokia Messaging (rebranded as SingTel Mobile M@il Plus) as a service bundled together with Nokia E63 with a flat rate monthly data plan.

3. For E75, Nokia Messaging subscription _FOR LIFE_ is included. E75 users are also paying for Nokia Messaging price. This is for E55 & E52 as well.

4. This means, Nokia will offer it as a multichannel paid service.

5. Maybe someone from Nokia Messaging team could comment on the future plan? ;-)

Cheers!

[Rafe]

You'll also see Nokia Messaging available on other new Nokia devices (though the subscription will not necessarily be included).

For example recent firmware updates have added it to the N96, N85, N79 (albeit an earlier version). Added is, perhaps, not the right word - what's actually done is the SIS file is included (on the memory card) and can installed when you run the Nokia Email Wizard (the one accessible from the homescreen, and settings in Messaging). Of course as far as the user is concerned everything can be done from the device.

Going forward I would expect all S60 (and some Series 40) devices to have this.

Hopefully Nokia will make the cost stuff clear.

Other operators taking on Nokia Messaging include Orange, and A1 (there's more too, and imagine more on the way).

I hope that in the official nokia messaging 2.0 with MfE integrated, it'll use a lower memory footprint then if you'd use them as disparate subsystems now. My n95-1 with its measly 48mb or something of memory only had memory in the single digits with all that stuff loaded, so i have been using the System Seven product to do my exchange+gmail imap. At least with that loaded, i still have ram in the mid-high teens.

I wanted to specify my own domain when using NMM, but it won't let you. Any work a rounds?

[asri]

1. During the official E75 launch event in Malaysia, the General Manager, Vlasa Berka told media that Nokia Messaging will be a standard feature for future S60 and S40.

2. I used System Seven before and there are some areas where Nokia Messaging needs to learn from System Seven. For example, Sytem Seven has a small green indicator on the Standby Screen to give notify users about the connection.

cheers!

[asri]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I wanted to specify my own domain when using NMM, but it won't let you. Any work a rounds?

1. Yes. There is a workaround for this.

2. I will illustrate it in my next piece. Watch this space! ;-)

[EuroJohn]

If I download and install Nokia Messaging, does it replace the already pre-installed messaging program on the Nokia E90? If I press the MESSAGE key on the keyboard, which messaging program will open? The pre-installed program on the E90 or the new Nokia Messaging?

[nudger]

I've been umming and ahhing about whether to get this for a little while - and I've got 3 questions:

1. I previously read about problems with access point choice - people were saying that once installed, this app stuck with the original data point. Unhelpful if you wish to switch between work and/or home wi-fi and your 3G connection when out and about. Anyone know if this is still an issue?

2. What happens to the email part of the S60 messaging application if you install this? Does is disappear or could it be used in parallel with Nokia Messaging? (Basically, if I have a problem, is my trusty and working current solution going to be lost?) - edit : sorry, just realised that the previous poster asked this question too, but it still stands...

3. I have an unlimited data tariff in the UK - but I'm in the USA for the next ten months for work. I'm using my N82 with a cheap PAYG American SIM whilst over here (it doesn't support GPRS and the 3G bands are different here), whilst my UK SIM sits in a cheap unlocked phone for SMS purposes. Anyone see any problems with me installing the Nokia Messaging app on the N82 whilst over here?

Thanks

[asri]

Originally Posted by EuroJohn

If I download and install Nokia Messaging, does it replace the already pre-installed messaging program on the Nokia E90? If I press the MESSAGE key on the keyboard, which messaging program will open? The pre-installed program on the E90 or the new Nokia Messaging?

@EuroJohn,

1. No. Nokia Messaging wont replace the built-in S60 Messaging in your E90

2. Nokia Messaging is developed for email (and instant messaging in the future) while the built-in S60 Messaging main usage is for text messages (SMS) and MMS.

3. By default, the Message button on E90 will open the built-in S60 Messaging.

4. Like I said previously in my other thread, the name Nokia Messaging is confusing. Why they dont use something like Nokia Mail or Nokia Connect or Nokia Email?

Cheers!

[asri]

@nudger,

Originally Posted by nudger

1. I previously read about problems with access point choice - people were saying that once installed, this app stuck with the original data point. Unhelpful if you wish to switch between work and/or home wi-fi and your 3G connection when out and about. Anyone know if this is still an issue?

1. This is not true. You can change the Access Point in Nokia Messaging easily. You can do this inside Nokia Messaging (current version 9.0.43) by pressing Settings -> General -> Service Info -> Access Point. Take a look at this screenshot :



2. However, when you configure Nokia Messaging for the first time, you are not given any choice to choose Access Point. It will use the default one. In my opinion, this is one area where Nokia Messaging can improve and give users an option to select Access Point during setting up NM.

Originally Posted by nudger

2. What happens to the email part of the S60 messaging application if you install this? Does is disappear or could it be used in parallel with Nokia Messaging? (Basically, if I have a problem, is my trusty and working current solution going to be lost?) - edit : sorry, just realised that the previous poster asked this question too, but it still stands...

1. Nothing happen to S60 Messaging after you install Nokia Messaging. You can use SMS, MMS, and even email inside S60 Messaging as usual. They can be used in parallel with Nokia Messaging because both are completely different applications.

Originally Posted by nudger

3. I have an unlimited data tariff in the UK - but I'm in the USA for the next ten months for work. I'm using my N82 with a cheap PAYG American SIM whilst over here (it doesn't support GPRS and the 3G bands are different here), whilst my UK SIM sits in a cheap unlocked phone for SMS purposes. Anyone see any problems with me installing the Nokia Messaging app on the N82 whilst over here?

1. Here's what I understand :
- You can use Nokia Messaging in your N82 in manual mode.
- You can define a WLAN Access Point.
- The "push" function wont work outside the WLAN coverage area.
- In manual mode, whenever you want to check your email, just press "Sync" icon to retrieve emails.
- Anything else I overlooked? ;-)

2. Unless you can get the data part working for the PAYG American SIM, you wont be able to use Nokia Messaging in all its potential.

3. And if you plan to change the Access Point regularly in Nokia Messaging, you can do that at your own convenience.

Cheers!

[nudger]

@ Asri - "Anything else I've overlooked?"

No - I don't think so. Pretty comprehensive reply and you've reassured me enough to go for this. Thanks a lot for your help!

[nudger]

Actually this hasn't worked for me. Downloaded the application from S60 web as per the article's instructions which went fine.

But the installation didn't go to plan. It spent 45 mins 'testing network connections' using an MMS access point not the wi-fi one (no choice offered as mentioned before) then asked for my email address and password before connecting via wi-fi to get the email settings and then setting up a new mailbox in the ordinary Messaging app - just above the one I set up myself when I got the phone!

Any ideas? Not possible without the network connection via the SIM itself? No big deal if I have to stick with what I've got. Just thought it was worth trying out....

[Tenkom]

I have a problem with nokia messaging. I can receive mails but not send. With the normal mail client i had to set the smtp server to that of my service provider(smtp.online.no) and not my email provider(smtp.start.no). But nokia messaging won't allow me to set it manually.
Any thoughts?