All About Symbian - Nokia (S60) and Sony Ericsson (UIQ) smartphones unwrapped

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Old 01-11-2007, 06:56 AM
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Nokia Music Store (UK) now live

The Nokia Music Store (UK) is now live at music.nokia.co.uk. The PC site requires Internet Explorer (partly due to the Nokia Music Bar which is used to download tracks) and is open to allcomers. The mobile version (same address) can currently only be accessed on a Nokia N95 8GB or a Nokia N81, using the dedicated on-device client. Screenshots and video below the break! See also our earlier story which gives additional details on the Music Store.

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Old 01-11-2007, 08:38 AM
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So Nokia is doing an Apple and locking people out of features on new devices that will obviously work without a hitch on previous ones. Apart from internal memory what would stop this running on the Original N95? It it just a way to make people buy the new phone despite owning the old kit?
There's no encouragement to keep the old phone at all is there?
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Old 01-11-2007, 09:36 AM
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Bosambo, the "lock out" only applies to the mobile version of the store. You can buy the tracks on your PC and then use them on any device with the appropriate DRM compatibility, including the original N95.
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Old 01-11-2007, 09:58 AM
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Exactly my point...

The tracks are compatible...the app would obviously run on an n95 as well as other previous handsets...and it's even funnier that I have to go back to my computer despite Nokia going to great lengths to sell me the phone on the back of their "It's what computers have become" claims.
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Old 01-11-2007, 10:04 AM
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Guys, why are you all so impatient? The store's only been live for 3 hours!!!

I'm quite sure a generic Nseries Music Store client will be released ASAP.

Steve
PS. Besides which, I've never bought a track from an online store in my life - I still say that buying CDs and ripping them DRM-free to all my portable devices with no restrictions whatsoever is the way to go. 8-)
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Old 01-11-2007, 10:29 AM
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Is this store available only to people who are in UK,because I'm not and I can't even see it,let alone to purchase something?
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Old 01-11-2007, 10:48 AM
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Nokia, clue?

Astonishing stuff, Windows only is bad enough, but IE only? Wow.

Then again, like Steve I think that buying DRMed music online is a fool's game, perhaps that's why they chose the IE-only route, with the assumption that if you're daft enough to be buying DRMed music, you're probbaly running IE...


It doesn't bode well for Nokia's claims or goals of being an internet company though.
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Old 01-11-2007, 10:59 AM
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Steve, I've always agreed with you about buying the CD, ripping it, and playing it where you like. But think of the (admittedly rare) scenario where an old git like me actually hears something new on the radio that he likes and would like to hear more of. I hardly ever go near music stores, and by the time I get there I've forgotten what it was that I'd heard and liked. I think I will be using this service for that kind of immediacy. I won't be doing it via PC, though, as that kinda defeats the object.
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Old 01-11-2007, 11:36 AM
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neilhoskins has hit it exactly on the head...restricting the owners of all but 2/3 handsets to the web only interface brings nothing new...why would I then stop using Amazon, Napster etc in favor of a Nokia store? Because I own a Nokia so I MUST buy from them? it's not exactly the same tight intergration that a Mac, iTunes and an iPod/Phone would give.
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Old 01-11-2007, 12:17 PM
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I don't think Nokia expects you to stop using Amazon, buying CDs, listening to the radio or that you MUST buy only from them. Did they say so somewhere that I missed?

And perhaps I misunderstood, but isn't the Apple model much more trying to tie you into their service, through their "tight integration"?

Btw, some of the N81 providers will have their own online music service offering next to the Nokia Music Store. You choose.

But then again, hmm, maybe I should not jump to too many conclusions after the store has been open in one country for a few hours. I know, silly me, why would I not, right?
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Old 01-11-2007, 12:57 PM
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viipottaja...I'll put it down to your misunderstanding me that your response was rather rude.
Firstly where I say MUST, I did not mean it in the sense that they are forcing users but that they expect users to use their service with no compelling reason to do so. We've all heard of the Apple fanboys that will buy anything Apple not because they need or even that it's the best option but because as Apple fans they believe they MUST. Secondly I'm aware that there will be some providers offering thier own service, I'm with T-mobile and they have just launched something similar except I can download the tracks right from the built in browser...it also costs more than the Nokia version so I'd like the choice. Right now if I took the scenerio that I'm in a store or on the bus or listening to the Radio and I hear a song I like, to have that song to hand RIGHT then and there I only have the T-Mobile option. I'd have to wait until I got home to use the Nokia store. I might be tempted to pay the extra 20p to have the track right away.

The final point it that as a customer I don't expect to be disguarded every few months...you obviously expect and accept it. I'm not getting a N81 as I already have a phone...I only just got it...some people...in fact MOST people expect longevity from their goods, not to have to upgrade every 6 months.
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Old 01-11-2007, 01:04 PM
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A negative from me on support their own products, I have an new 6120c (maybe not an N series but a high spec Nokia product) but I am unable to purchase/transfer tracks from the Nokia Music Store to a Nokia Product, but I CAN purchase and transfer Apple iTunes plus tracks from the iTunes store to my 6120c and play! Some other Nokia products will have the same problem, not a good start to encourage people to sign up when a lot of products are excluded from the party!

And why low bit rate WMA, when Amazon lauches its higher bit rate (cheaper) MP3 service in the UK thats the winner for me.........cross platform files and cross platform devices...
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Old 01-11-2007, 01:11 PM
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It may be "intended" only for Internet Explorer, but there's a free add-on for Firefox, called "IE Tab", that emulates IE in Firefox, and the site IS accessible via Firefox by using IE Tab. I'm in the U.S. and can access the site fine that way from FF. I've also created an account, downloaded the Nokia Music Bar, and sampled a few selections -- all in Firefox. My only problem with the site is that the dollar/pound exchange rate is so bad for Americans that the music is way too expensive!

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Old 01-11-2007, 01:36 PM
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IE Tab

IE Tab does not emulate IE...it just places an IE window inside Firefox, which means you ARE using IE. If you choose not to use IE for security reasons for example then IE tab is not a good thing as you ARE using IE with it and all it's inherant problems.
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Old 01-11-2007, 01:44 PM
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Bosambo, I may be mistaken, but I think you CAN buy songs immediately over the air with the Nokia Music Store. What you cannot do, is to stream them to your phone. But I gather you mean this is the case because your phone does not support the Music Store?
Again, the store has been open in one country for half a day. There is no reason, IMO, to assume (at least not yet) that it will not be expanded to a lot more Nokia devices (I used the N81 as an example only, sorry for not being clear on that point). True, it _may_ be that it will not be supported by ALL Nokia phones even in the long term.

The compelling reason will be ease of use and broad selection. IF ANY. I would still like to wait and see how it evolves.

"you obviously expect and accept it. " Hmm.. it is not obvious to me that I do. But then again, I frequently confuse myself.

Unregistered, the lower bit rate _may_ have something to do with ensuring smooth (?) over the air downloading.

Wocious, true, but hopefully they will launch a US version, priced accordingly.

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