N95 Comments after a week use

I am thinking of swapping my N93 for the n95...But is buying the phone for mainly the 5 mill pix camera worth it? How is pic quality, acceptable?

Lovely phone...better video than N93? Sweet.

What it gets down to for me is if N93 will at all be able to somewhat benefit from FP1, like updating the web browser, for instance. If not, the N95 has another strong advantage. I hear they are at least considering it being possible. The only reason to why it wouldn't be possible (that I can see, anyway) is if Nokia used a web browser update as a lure to make present 3rd ed Nokia customers upgrade to a new phone. That would just be non ethical.

Did your pre release version have the newer web browser?

I feel that the N93 and N95 has different market segment. For example: N93 has a swivel that allows the user to capture many angle of a scene, while N95 doesn't have one but rather a slider. N95 has GPS, Online map and N93 doesn't.

For those camera professional, I'd say N93 is the best bet albeit it has lower 3MP instead of 5MP. But what is the use of 5MP if you can't take it from the angle you wanted?

Picture quality at this point is acceptable but not the best, due to early software. This is normal at this point of stage. I'm testing more on the navigation.

I love the online map, so it doesn't matter where you are, you connect to the network and download the map from 3G network.

So for normal guy like me, I always carry my 10 MP camera with me whenever I am travelling, and my N95 is merely my phone, pda and casual/quick photo-taking device. For those with N93, you probably don't need another camera.

I know for sure with N95, I will not get lost and I can always send SMS my coordinate to anyone, so that at emergency situation, people can locate me.

Hi it certainly sounds like fun and i agree it is aimed at slightly different segments. I don't like slider phones and love the Laptop/Landscape mode of my N93 and the big tactile keypad, also i have a Holox GPS and Tom Tom 6 is built in GPS and maps is not really of value or interest. The extra couple of extra megapixels are not that important to me and must say Video playback with correctly encoded material is stunning on the N93 just needs A2DP IMO.

Marc

FP1 cant be added to the N93 or any current 3rd gen handset. FP1 will come included in new released 3rd gen handsets ... N95, N93i (possibly), Samsung SGH-i520, LG Joy and so on.

N95 is quite more likened to the N73 as an evolution to that model. That being said, its an evolution to the S60 range as a whole and definately a step in the right direction. The N93 is still a very viable handset and you cant dismiss it even against the N95.

You can expect more hig powered deviced like this in the future from Nokia.

Please keep posting about your experiences mgoodson45, as it is very interesting to hear first hand from someone who has such an exciting device at this early stage, you have lots of keen ears here.

I think the N95 represents a significant advance over the N93 (as does the new N93i). It is clearly superior in every way, and that is good news. The ability to view the screen at a different angle to where the camera is pointing is a very minor issue in the real world I think - you just tilt your head instead for goodness sake! Hearing that camera and DVD are better is especially encouraging.

I would be interested to know how clear movie playback and other graphics (e.g. web etc) is on a TV screen. Am I right in thinking it outputs in a higher resolution that the N95's own screen?

Also, are there any 3D graphics/games that demonstrate the 3D chip in the N95, and what is your opinion?

Thanks for the posts,
Alex

ajck wrote:I think the N95 represents a significant advance over the N93 (as does the new N93i). It is clearly superior in every way, and that is good news.
Alex

True, it is superior in most external features, but if I'm not totally wrong; the CPU, the clocked speed and the 3D chip are the same. So unless the larger system memory makes a big difference for a single app, you'll have the same impressive 3D stuff on the N93 and they'll run the same software just as good...in theory anyway. 😊

In fact, mgoodson45, if you'd like to stop over at http://www.jbenchmark.com/ and run a javabench and post the score here, I'd be terribly interested in the results.

Dear Sir,
Can you help where can I download a video shot with N95 from? Is there any site of yours where you can upload it for me? I'll be grateful.

I'll try the JavaBench later on and post some pictures shortly. These result wouldn't matter much though, as this is an early stage and the end result may be well improved/different than at this stage.

As for the TV output, It works great. I tried to display some pictures yesterday and it basically the full screen of your TV size (mine is still 4:3). On normal screen mode (menu), it'll not be full screen. No problem with the resolution that I can see of.

I'm not aware of any graphics/games software that uses the 3D engines at this time. May be if there is one for N93, It may work for N95 too.

Result: http://www.jbenchmark.com/resultdetails.jsp?benchmark=pro&resultid=1724&D=unknown
(exception handling happens at the start of apps and ended with some error message). Result doesn't reflect the end result, this is an early software.

What about the flash is it better? Can it be comparable to sonys k800i?

mgoodson45 wrote:

Result: http://www.jbenchmark.com/resultdetails.jsp?benchmark=pro&resultid=1724&D=unknown
(exception handling happens at the start of apps and ended with some error message). Result doesn't reflect the end result, this is an early software.

Thanks a mil for testing, mgoodson45, but I can't access the link since it's only available when logged in as you. Think it's possible for you to cut n' paste the results here?

BTW ran their ARM jBenchmark ACE beta software (it's available under menu "early access" when logged in), and it identified the N93 ARM11 CPU running at 319Mhz with Jazelle not enabled. It's actually the first software I've seen that identifies and displays the N93 CPU at its actual(?) speed, altough I've also heard numbers like 330Mhz before. That's probably what the N95 is running at as well.

319Mhz =d

JBenchmark Pro Result details
Test results
3D Rendering Quality: Z-buffer Precision 99.8%
Composite Business - LQ 757 Frames
Camera Shooting Speed Failed / Not supported
Composite CarRace - HQ Failed / Not supported
Composite Business - HQ 274 Frames
3D Rendering Quality: Sub Pixel Precision 100%
3D Rendering Quality: Bilinear Filter 99%
Chess 13
Business math 254
Audio - MP3 Failed / Not supported
Audio - MIDI Failed / Not supported
3D Rendering Quality: Trilinear Filter 96%
Business Charts 164 Frames
3D Rendering Quality: Perspective Correction 99%
Composite Business - MQ 459 Frames

HTTP specific details
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Platform NokiaN95/1.43.049

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Thank you, that was quite interesting! Most scores are quite a bit lower than the über N93 ones found at jbenchmark.com, but almost up to par with what I get when running those benchmarks with my N93.

Basically proves they are very similar beasts at core, all glorious 5mpixel and GPS bling bling aside. 😊

GoodCop wrote:Thank you, that was quite interesting! Most scores are quite a bit lower than the �ber N93 ones found at jbenchmark.com, but almost up to par with what I get when running those benchmarks with my N93.

Basically proves they are very similar beasts at core, all glorious 5mpixel and GPS bling bling aside. 😊

I would foresee the performance and battery life will go up significantly when the code has matured. You're now looking at early versions.

Let's keep the battery and other performance issues until it is stable.

What about the flash is it updated , can it be comparable to sony k800??

Can you confirm if you can play youtube videos with the web browser?
http://thenokiablog.com/2006/11/26/youtube-or-flash-works-fine-on-the-nokia-n95/

Does anyone know if the built-in GPS in the N95 can be used with external devices over Bluetooth, for example using the N95 as a GPS device with mapping software running on a Nokia 770?

OK GUYS, VIDEO BASICALLY SHOULDNT BE BETTER ON N95
THE OPTICS ARE BETTER ON N93 AS WELL AS MACRO AND ZOOM
damn, sry caps

n93: video Zoom: (optical / digital) 3x / up to 8x
photo: Exposure compensation: +1 ~ -1EV at 0.5 step || Focal length 4.5 mm (Wide) /12.4 mm (Tele) 34.25 - 94.1 mm(35mm equiv.)
more: http://www.nseries.com/nseries/v2/media/product/tech_specs/en-US/tech_specs_n93_en_US.html?lang=en&country=US "see new"

n93: video Zoom: Digital up to 10x (VGA up to 4x)
photo: Exposure compensation: +2 ~ -2EV at 0.5 step|| Focal length 5.6 mm
more: http://www.nseries.com/nseries/v2/media/product/tech_specs/en-US/tech_specs_n95_en_US.html?lang=en&country=US#2"see new"

or am i wrong about video zoom?
also, n95 and n93 have the same proccessors, n95 has more RAM which IS really (64 Mb, i think) the only thing that sux is that 2gb memmory cards are too small, i mean, like for me 4 gb would be perfect

n93 and n95 have the same screen resolution so since n95's screen is larger, does image change any worse?

i also really like n95's menu in horizoontal mode-really niice

although iunno wat to buy, i like n93's design better, and video is very important for me. if n93i going to support 4gb minisd-HD im pretty sure ill buy it, although its not that good on front panel
im gonna get a phone approximately on january 5th-10th

mgoodson45 , i understand that u have ur "ways" of getting that phone(its not in the stores yet, so obviously...)
can u find any sort of info on n93i by any chance? that would be great

btw if uve seen pictures taken by n93, can u compare them to n95's and comment on them .
thx a lot

p.s.: its been mentioned that n93i gonna record movies in "dvd" , not "dvd-like" quality

later

yes... how about this youtube?

Also... I know a lot of people want to know (but haven't asked for some reason yet?)- how long does it take to get off a shot? I'm asking both how long does it take for the camera application to "ready up" and about the shutter lag- is it as snappy as we hope, or since it's a 5mp- is it worse than some of these horrible 3mp phone cams?

Thanks for answering our questions. I'm sure we all appreciate it very much. It would be nice to know if the n95 can view youtube videos as well!

Wait! Just read in a previous post from you- in the readout for the benchmarks... bluetooth 1.0? It does have 2.0, correct?

thanks mgoodson!

I've just read from a few sources that the n95 has a mechanical shutter.

1/1000th of a second lag. Can you confirm this and youtube?

Hallo, i have been looking all over the internet, but i can't find a video recorded by the nokia n95. And i looks like you have the phone, so i wonder if could record a video, and upload it somewhere, so we can se the quality.. please.
😊
Thanks in advance 😉

Can u play youtube vids on S60 os webbrowser???

guys gusy
check out this hi-q pictures of n93i
on spy picutres it looked pretty ugly(the mirror surface), but now-its much better
anyway, check it out and comment(or is there a link to n93i forum, plz post it)

http://forum2.mobile-review.com//forum/thread/56094/&page=3

and here is n93 internet edition

http://www.symbianwatch.com/more-nokia-internet-editions-coming-soon.html

sry for offtopic

So....

is mgoodson gone now?

He hasen't postet for some time, maybe he's on vacation or something. :con? Or maybe he just dont care...

I was away for sometime... There is a few pictures that I'd like to share, but the website doesn't allow 900+kb attachment.
Any idea? don't have/use flickr....

YouTube.com doesn't work, it require flash plug-ins. I'm not aware of any flash plug-ins for symbian browsers at the moment.

Video recording doesn't work well at the moment, no sound.

Picture quality is good, but not the best.

Reminder: This is an early software, current result does not indicate the end result.

Any idea if Nokia will allow the internal GPS to be used with external mapping/navigation devices over Bluetooth?

Or maybe the current software makes it impossible to tell at this stage.