All About Symbian - Nokia (S60) and Sony Ericsson (UIQ) smartphones unwrapped

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Old 01-02-2010, 02:51 PM
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After a format, restore of contacts and installing Maps 3.3 and Nokia Messaging 10.1, I now have just over 30MB free.

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Installation of v21

I would strongly advise following these steps when upgrading to v21 to ensure a smooth, clean, trouble free, install.


Installation

1. Back up your data to memory card, using the tool in File manager on your N97.

2. Install v21 via Nokia Software Update on a Windows PC. Over-the-air updates to v21 will be available 'shortly'.

3. All your data *should* be maintained, but I'd strongly recommend doing a hard reset afterwards anyway, i.e. *#7370# from the homescreen dialler.

4. Restore your data (but not settings) from your memory card, again in File manager.

5. Set up any email/Internet/Bluetooth settings/pairings as needed.

What's new

The software contains many fixes and improvements on the earlier releases including:

* More free RAM after booting

* Improved call reliability

* Smooth touchscreen scrolling

* Browser improvements (among other changes, the toolbar stays out of the way more)

* Music player improvements

* Cleaner default (black) theme

* Improved image and video stability

Notes

* After a hard reset, there's now 53MB free on disk C:

* After removing the Facebook and AccuWeather homescreen widgets, the N97 now boots up with around 59MB of RAM free

* Disappointingly, Ovi Maps 3.3 (free) isn't in the firmware, though of course, it's an easy add-on from 'Software update' on the device, from maps.nokia.com or from the Ovi Store.


Taken from Steve Litchfield's excellent posting here:-

http://mobile.allaboutsymbian.com/ne...21_and_fur.php
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Old 01-02-2010, 03:54 PM
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Ovi maps not included? Werid, I thought this was the reason why it wasn't relased for the N97 - that it would use up too much Cdrive if not part of the firmware!
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Old 01-02-2010, 06:04 PM
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The RSS feed auto update still resets everytime you restart the phone.
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Old 01-02-2010, 08:59 PM
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Yeah my ovi didn't work either, I had to download the Nokia Software Updater to get the update. Ovi maps seam to be a software update, mine keep failing for some reason. Good Times...

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Old 01-02-2010, 10:32 PM
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Yeah my ovi didn't work either, I had to download the Nokia Software Updater to get the update. Ovi maps seam to be a software update, mine keep failing for some reason. Good Times...
Ovi Maps wouldn't download through Sotware Update for me after the update and so I used this method described here:-

http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/forum...ad.php?t=92463
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Ovi Maps wouldn't download through Sotware Update for me after the update and so I used this method described here:-

http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/forum...ad.php?t=92463
I had the same problem.

So I removed Nokia Maps (Settings-> Application Mgr) and then Ovi Maps appeared in the Software Updater.

Very straightforward, actually.

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Old 02-02-2010, 10:41 AM
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Just checked NSU, v21 not available for UK unbranded, product code 0585162. Anyone else had any luck with this code?
Not available for Turkish too. Still says v20 is the latest and phone is up-to-date. Don't know what they're trying to do. Is it so hard to release it once and for all?

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Old 02-02-2010, 11:58 AM
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Is it so hard to release it once and for all?
Yes, it is!

See my posting here:-

http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/forum...ad.php?t=92655

starting with the paragraph... "Finally I come to the question of firmware releases".
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Not available for Turkish too. Still says v20 is the latest and phone is up-to-date.
Use the NSU, if you have not. I have already got V21 yesterday using NSU. But when I put my product code now it still states that V12 is the latest. Strange.
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Old 02-02-2010, 01:18 PM
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i had mine show itself in software update, but hesitant to do it currently, if it means another hard reset and reinstalling programs and setting ringtones, and sms tones, and all my other personalised system tones....argh. i just dont trust a backup-format-restore method, and even if UDP is enabled, its still a hit and miss, else why ask to do the backups in the first place? ah, what joy.

about maps, i think it would make more sense to have it as a separate download since it's going to be updated regularly (hopefully) and having it in firmware will just add more used space when installing a newer version over it (likely) or b) having 2 OVI/Nokia Maps in your App Manager (some are pretty anal about that haha)
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i had mine show itself in software update, but hesitant to do it currently, if it means another hard reset and reinstalling programs and setting ringtones, and sms tones, and all my other personalised system tones....argh. i just dont trust a backup-format-restore method, and even if UDP is enabled, its still a hit and miss, else why ask to do the backups in the first place? ah, what joy.

about maps, i think it would make more sense to have it as a separate download since it's going to be updated regularly (hopefully) and having it in firmware will just add more used space when installing a newer version over it (likely) or b) having 2 OVI/Nokia Maps in your App Manager (some are pretty anal about that haha)

I was hoping that after installing the update i wouldn't have to do a hard reset - however the screen was flickering, videos weren't showing (screen went black after a few seconds) same was happening for music tracks - so i went with Ians suggestion of *#7370# - fortunately only a few apps and contacts went missing, music/videos and photos stayed put, so all in all it took me about an hour to put the phone back to how i like it, settings taking me the longest time.

The only folder that i reloaded from "back up" was contacts, other missing items i loaded myself.

I've gained around 5mb c drive and roughy 10mb ram, yes the phone is a little faster and smoother but if i'm honest that's all i've noticed.

This is by no means me dismissing this update as pointless, it takes us further forward and i'm sure that others will notice more positive aspects to v2.1 than i have
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Still has the ringtone bug where my default ringtone changes to the factory ringtone occassionally.

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I can't seem to update. I have v20 firmware on US version N97 (507). I have WinXP SP3 - installed to a clean HD 3 days ago. I loaded Ovi Suite 2 and Nokia PC Suite. All functions of both work fine, except for the updater. The updated detects my phone, downlaods the update, and then it says 15 minutes left for installation. At that point myu phone just restarts itself and I get a message about device recovery... I soft-reset it and tried again, but the phone just reboots itself right when the updating process is about to begin. I am out of ideas...

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Old 03-02-2010, 02:34 AM
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I was hoping that after installing the update i wouldn't have to do a hard reset
This time around I did not do a hard reset. With V21, I got a gain of 2MB of RAM upon booting up. It's now 59 MB. However there are some applications in the background mainly contacts, messaging, log & clock. If I close these using Handy Taskman a further 2MB of RAM can be gained. The RAM does progessively gets lower after some applications have been used. I wonder why.

There was no gain in drive C. I have 34MB. It was 42MB before installing the latest Maps, while still with v20. I wonder will there be any gain in drive C if I do a hard reset. I did run memory optimiser a very little gain, 0.3MB. The phone is generally a little faster. Hope it stays that way.
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