All About Symbian - Nokia (S60) and Sony Ericsson (UIQ) smartphones unwrapped

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Old 22-09-2009, 08:27 PM
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Do I must forget all about Samsung HD! Beautiful hardware but terrific software... Samsung in Portugal don't care about the Symbian 5th. There isn't even one single update to the firmware and they want costumers to go to technical assistance to update firmware but don't know what the last Portuguese firmware number is! My phone can't connect to operator wap site and they don’t know why!!!! All settings are okay, but it will appear just text. Opera mini 4.2 some times don't work and the Beta 5 its going same way! Will skyfire browser work? Don't expect much. It seems the JAVA itself isn't working very well. Some times the default browser goes down... Photography’s browsers don’t work well either… What should I do? Maybe HTC Leo will be the answer or Nokia N900, but never again another Samsung... It's too expensive for just 3 months of use!

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Old 22-09-2009, 10:45 PM
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@ capitaine: My i8910 plays .flv files just fine that I've loaded onto the device. I wonder if it not working has to do with how YouTube converts its videos? Whatever the reason, they should work for you.
ok yeah they do work.. well I managed to view one out of two .flv's I loaded.. BUT, they don't appear in MediaBrowser or VideoPlayer! So you have to look for them in the File Manager, and then they play in a different app, the Flashplayer I think.. but the videos didn't auto-rotate - you have to use the options menu...

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Old 22-09-2009, 11:35 PM
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Actually, I can attest that it DOES support flv. You just cant rewind or fast forward when playing flv though.

Ive used flv files from many different sources, Youtube included.

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Old 23-09-2009, 07:53 AM
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Do I must forget all about Samsung HD! Beautiful hardware but terrific software... Samsung in Portugal don't care about the Symbian 5th. There isn't even one single update to the firmware and they want costumers to go to technical assistance to update firmware but don't know what the last Portuguese firmware number is! My phone can't connect to operator wap site and they don’t know why!!!! All settings are okay, but it will appear just text. Opera mini 4.2 some times don't work and the Beta 5 its going same way! Will skyfire browser work? Don't expect much. It seems the JAVA itself isn't working very well. Some times the default browser goes down... Photography’s browsers don’t work well either… What should I do? Maybe HTC Leo will be the answer or Nokia N900, but never again another Samsung... It's too expensive for just 3 months of use!
(at the risk of upsetting the mods here) Go to http://forums.samsungi8910omnia.com/. I think you will find the answers to your firmware, browser, Opera 5, etc questions there.

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Old 24-09-2009, 12:32 AM
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LOL! Hope you enjoy playing your kids games.
Funny you say kids games, considering there's more blood and gore in Quake 3 compared to your typical horror, R-Rated, 18 and over movies. Sure, i'd love to have my kids play Quake 3

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Old 25-09-2009, 10:40 AM
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Exclamation i8910 and the Disaster of Voice Quality in Modern Phones

I bought an i8910 and sold it 1 week later. I had been looking for a phone that ran Symbian for the sole reason of needing to use Nokia Maps for frequent travel, and also one that wasn't as staid and boring as the Nokia models, but also offered a usable Multimedia experience with no need to recode my DivX films for travel, and no-need to open a laptop for document viewing due to a large good screen and the biggest battery possible.

The i8910 certainly seemed to fill this need. Much research in review websites seemed to also vindicate that this was a great phone.

What a mistake.

As a multimedia device it is stunning and superb. It is too big, but you simply can't make a big screen magically small. Un-recoded videos videos and docs were great on the Amoeled screen.

Making calls was another issue altogether. People I called complained that I sounded distant. On my side they sounded hollow and distant as well. You heard all the words, but it was a thoroughly unenjoyable calling experience for both. This was the case regardless of whether I was stationary or travelling, the quality of the signal, 2G or 3G, or what kind of line (cell, landline, local, long distance, international, 2G, 3G) the person called was on. There were no dropped calls.

What leaves me perplexed is how everyone could get this so very wrong. Perhaps most people don't use a phone to make calls, or perhaps when they do they don't care about hearing the other person clearly ? Part of calling someone is to hear them clearly enough so that you can hear their feelings on something through the words. If you didn't need to do that, or couldn't do that well, you might as well write them an SMS or an email. Perhaps people use phones as a multimedia device only and make calls with a simpler phone ? Most review sites gave the phone a glowing "thumbs-up" as they represent the manufacturers and are reliant on their continued support, either directly, or in terms of fast access to new devices, but even those sites that are independent minded should perhaps not give an overall good phone rating to a phone that can't be used a as phone and hustle the voice quality information into a small part of the back of their review.

I do realize that an objective test of call voice quality is difficult. Voice quality changes in different situations: stationary/travel, signal strength, provider, phone used on the other end, 2G/3G. It also changes depending on the frequencies of the sound of the voice and the ambient noise (think of the disaster that otherwise excellent phones like the Nokia E52 are: if it is used in a high ambient noise environment it is too quiet (low max db on speaker) AND the clarity function will cut out your voice as well as the noise) as well as whether you're using the handset, corded headset or wireless headset. Each user also interprets sound differently. So the problem is complex, which accounts for reviewers taking the easy path, ignoring call quality and reviewing just those items about a cellphone that are irrelevant to the who business that a cellphone is in.

Despite this, the very least websites should make recordings available on their websites of their calls to landlines under the most common variables above, and let users make their own choices.

The competitive situation for phone makers is such that the hard work of ensuring good voice quality on highly complex do everything handsets doesn't amortize itself over the relatively short life of each model. Simpler headsets are easier to get right, but on complex models it seems to be a struggle. Even if one headset manufacturer decides to take more time and produce higher quality voice, they run the risk of financial death if their competitors do not do the same. Think of Siemens cellphones - they built cellphones with excellent call quality, but were too small, had too few "sexy" models and soon went out of business. Samsung has now flooded the market with a huge range of excellent multimedia phones with stunning features. Nokia shares lost significantly because they didn't match the pace or innovation. People were replaced. Technically however, the cost of this flood of models and features for current generation Samsung phones (the previous generations were excellent) seems to have been almost uniform poor voice quality (ie: usable to hear the words but not usable to hear the "quality" of what is being said), whereas many (not all) Nokia phones (with exception of the N97) still perform well to adequately in this regard. iPhone 3G/s voice quality does well or poorly depending on the reviewer in question (but is the ultimate device from a manufacturer's perspective as it is booth very expensive and, due to the un-removable battery, disposable after a few hundred recharges). Thankfully many HTC models seem to have adequate voice quality.

The stock-market message to Nokia however will be "think short-term" "worry about appearance of quality rather than actual quality" or risk being overtaken by number 2. Or fired.

In the long-term no company that has ever consistently provided low quality survives. But the long-term can be stretched and made long indeed, and most shareholders worry about a return on investment in 6 months. Senior managers worry about getting short-term results by cutting costs, staff motivation and quality to get that multi-million bonus for 2 or 3 years,then "being retired" at an even higher amount. It is in their interest to produce things you'll buy rather and who really cares about the long-term of any company when your new yacht is ready ? Good products won't keep you in business as the public is usually too poorly informed when they buy and forget and forgive fast. What companies need is "shareholder value" products instead.

The only way we can fight that trend is to either buy simple phones again (not a lot of fun) or convince websites to do a proper job of testing voice quality and ensuring that that is the focus of a review, not the secondary toys. Please do your part and write in to the various websites.

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Old 25-09-2009, 11:28 AM
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I must confess I have had no problem with calls, incoming or outgoing. Subjectively it is perhaps marginally worse than my E71 but both are perfectly acceptable.

Where there has been variation is in the strength of the signal from the provider. My i8910 is on O2 and my E71 on Vodafone. The variance caused by these providers is considerably more than any between the phones themselves.
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Old 25-09-2009, 09:30 PM
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Route 66 Navigation software for i8910

You can download Route 66 Mobile 9 navigation software for Samsung i8910 (and others) directly from Route 66:

http://www.66.com/samsung/

Then you can download free maps for offline navigation directly from your handset through the Mobile 9 app, or through the Route 66 Sync application that you can install on your PC.

Not sure why Samsung did not put the Route 66 link on their own website.

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Old 25-09-2009, 11:10 PM
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Unhappy Couple of Points

For some strange reason when I carry out a hard reset it doesn't seem to wipe the E drive. Even after updating the firmware all my widgets remain. Also when I connect my I8910 HD to the television via cable I get jittery avi playback! As you look at the screen of the phone it plays perfectly smooth, but as you look at the TV screen it stutters! mp4 playback is fine, although it seems to have slight audio delay on TV. Does anyone else experience these symptoms?

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Old 03-10-2009, 01:48 AM
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Angry Hey Steve Litchfield, check what you are saying.

It´s not true that this mobile records HD video at 30 fps., neither get 24 fps. !!
Be honest please...

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Old 06-10-2009, 04:34 PM
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Hi! I just got this phone, and can't figure out why my world clock has a continuous sun next to two of my cities even at nighttime. They are on opposite sides of the world, and a third city never has a sun next to it. Any ideas?

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Old 10-10-2009, 07:27 PM
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A very intersting review.
I would have liked a bit more about using the phone as a.. er..phone. There is no ability to make voice activated calls; this is an annoying omission by Samsung that I took for granted would be there, especially since some adverts claim it can make voice activated calls, and I would have liked to have seen this mentioned. It is possible that Orange in the UK is responsible for the omission though rather than Samsung.
With the design giving such emphasis on the camera features I would also have expected that a barcode reader would be supplied with the other apps. That would be useful to many more people than the panorama feature (which is amazing).
 

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