Music on the p800

[Dinalli]

Okay so i can only fit about 3-4 mp3s on the fone, and wma files wont transfer.

Whats the best format to put these onto the phone ?

[christomas]

You usually use wavs for ringtones. About the mp3s, sad to say that until a bigger capacity MS come out, thats all the songs you can load to the P800

[Accela]

You can reencode the mp3 into smaller bitrate, that sounds like radio quality but you can store alot more.. for a 16MB that is. I have an anime episode and 3 mp3s(cd single) right now, and uses less than 16MB.

[zubeir]

why not encode them in MP3 pro, average file size for a 5 min track at 128kbs is around 1.8mb~2mb

[will]

Originally Posted by zubeir

why not encode them in MP3 pro, average file size for a 5 min track at 128kbs is around 1.8mb~2mb

because mp3pro is evil.

I CONVERT MY MP3S INTO MP4 WHICH REDUCES THE SIZE OF A SONG DRAMATICALLY!!

I GOT ABOUT 10 FULL SONGS, I CAN KEEP GOING STILL GOT 4.3 MB FREE!

ALTHOUGH THE QUALITY IS RADIO QUALITY STILL SOUNDS EFFECTIVE WITH THE HEADPHONES

U KNO ME, Can you share with us the process and apps you use to convert your MP3s into MP4s?

Thanks!

[Me]

I use quicktime Pro to cut the size of the Mp3. It takes a while until you get the right balance. If oyu go to small you're basically under water, but there's a point where the quality is very good through headphones and it cuts size by over 50%. I have 10 songs I big 2 Meg movie clip, 1 1270 movie clip and 2 short 50 K I still have memory left and I have Opera File manager handy day and expense e.t.c

I can't wait until I get my hands on 128 M though

[Dinalli]

Is quicktime pro free or do you have to pay for it. I have the free quicktime already.

[Money bags]

Hi y'all i got about 10 Mp3 on my fone, I use DietMP3 program from the name u should know what to do, u can download it from www.download.com .

Plus i usually split the MP3 between the the internal mem 'n' the MS duo.
And i still got free space approx. 5MB on the internal and 2MB on the MS
duo.

I use Razorsomething(I'm not at home, can't remember) to reencode using lame, you have the option to reencode directly to very very small bitrate, I think it's better than MP4.

The qality of compression relies a lot on bitrate/size and the formats a good for different things.. check r3mix.org for tools and more info.
Some general idéas.

bitrate 2-64 (stereo) around 1.5Mb/song
*Use WMA or mp3Pro
bitrate 32-64 (mono)
*Use (vbr) Mp3 (lame encoder egine)
bitrate 64-128 (stereo) around 2+Mb song
*use mp3 or vorbis(ogg) once its supported by p800
Bitrate 128+
*mp3 or ogg

Both WMA and mp3 pro introduces some horrible artifacts, BUT they sound better then mp3 at 64kbit STEREO.
However a Mono 64kb mp3 sounds better then a mono 64kb wma imo, its about the same as 128kb stereo (64kb/channel)

As with all subjective quality there's no absolute truth... with crap headphones on your p800 you can prol compress a 32kb mp3 and it will still sound ok..

[Dinalli]

Ive managed to encoded some mp3's at 64Kbs using Music match, Ive managed to fit about 8 tracks on my phone and memory stick. which aint too bad, if i go any lower say 40kbs then the quality is poor.

Originally Posted by Me

I use quicktime Pro to cut the size of the Mp3. It takes a while until you get the right balance. If oyu go to small you're basically under water, but there's a point where the quality is very good through headphones and it cuts size by over 50%. I have 10 songs I big 2 Meg movie clip, 1 1270 movie clip and 2 short 50 K I still have memory left and I have Opera File manager handy day and expense e.t.c

I can't wait until I get my hands on 128 M though D

[Raven]

I also use DietMp3 to cut down the size from 192/128kbps to 96kbps which reduces the size to 50-75% without losing any significant quality.

I have on my mem stick 20 Mp3's, the full version of EDoom(13-14MB), 4 music videos, 2 *cough* porn clips *cough*, Opera, about 60 pictures, some midi and wav files and a few smaller programs. Oh, I have the 128MB DUO btw...