All About Symbian - Nokia (S60) and Sony Ericsson (UIQ) smartphones unwrapped

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UIQ Technology puts remaining staff on notice

With Sony Ericsson's and Motorola's decision to stop using the UIQ platform in future products the long term future of UIQ Technology, the company behind the platform, was thrown into doubt. As things currently stand the long term future of the company is not secure. As a result, yesterday, its remaining 270 employees were put on notice of dismissal. However Sony Ericsson has agreed to continue funding the company on a by month by month basis in order to allow the company to investigate options for the future.

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Old 07-11-2008, 04:32 PM
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I can't say this comes as a surprise really. I hope that Nokia/Samsung or another company sees the value in these specialists and has the sense to hire at least a few...

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No new UIQ3 models whatsoever is a little surprise

I understand that UIQ clearly has no long-term future, and that this means sooner or later there will be no more need for UIQ as a company.

But what surprises me is that there will be no more new UIQ3 phones reaching the market, not a single one. Both SE and Motorola had several UIQ3 phones in the development pipeline, some of them probably only a few months away from release, and both companies obviously decided to drop them all.

Why? Never mind Motorola which is a basket case anyway, but SE said they will stay with Symbian and switch to the new Foundation Symbian. As I see it, this will lead to a quite a long time without any new Symbian smartphone from SE. Why not fill this time with one or two new models, just to keep oneself in the focus of the public as a serious smartphone builder?

Does SE consider a long period without release of any new model the lesser evil than bringing almost fully-developped UIQ3 phones to market still? Is UIQ3 really that bad, at least in the eyes of SE? Or is there another reason, like totally strained developer resources, so that any further UIQ3 work, even in moderate amounts, would jeopardize the move to S60?

Or maybe this simply means that not quite the right people for the job at hand are managing SE...

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Or maybe this simply means that not quite the right people for the job at hand are managing SE...
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Old 08-11-2008, 10:30 AM
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Thumbs down They are dreaming

Sony and Motorola are both dreaming... Thanks to their horrible management of UIQ3 situation, their tiny credit in smart phone business is gone. I am not mad to use the Windows on handheld but... If I wanted to buy a Windows Mobile handset, why would I buy Motorola or Sony instead of HTC, Asus, HP who does them for years?

UIQ's bad luck comes from the Motorola and Sony who didn't have clue about how smart phones should be, how much a work needed on COMPUTER side to make a smart phone a competitor.

I have used/installed both Motorola and Sony suites. Especially Sony one, what is actually there in that gigantic download and 2 step install?!

Lets not forget, Nokia seems to have woke up lately but they have nothing on OS X/Mac scene too coming from Sony or Motorola. They didn't even spare time to submit existing software to Apple downloads or Versiontracker. Most Mac users could be shocked that there is actually UIQ3 themes creator on OS X. It is hidden in some developer page on uiq site.

All About Symbian and other sites should start archiving UIQ3 site/downloads daily so community will have access to downloads just in case.

The "touch" was UIQ, plugging touch to S60 won't cut it BTW. What a waste of technical art it is...

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Old 08-11-2008, 10:36 AM
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I understand that UIQ clearly has no long-term future, and that this means sooner or later there will be no more need for UIQ as a company.

But what surprises me is that there will be no more new UIQ3 phones reaching the market, not a single one. Both SE and Motorola had several UIQ3 phones in the development pipeline, some of them probably only a few months away from release, and both companies obviously decided to drop them all.

Why? Never mind Motorola which is a basket case anyway, but SE said they will stay with Symbian and switch to the new Foundation Symbian. As I see it, this will lead to a quite a long time without any new Symbian smartphone from SE. Why not fill this time with one or two new models, just to keep oneself in the focus of the public as a serious smartphone builder?

Does SE consider a long period without release of any new model the lesser evil than bringing almost fully-developped UIQ3 phones to market still? Is UIQ3 really that bad, at least in the eyes of SE? Or is there another reason, like totally strained developer resources, so that any further UIQ3 work, even in moderate amounts, would jeopardize the move to S60?

Or maybe this simply means that not quite the right people for the job at hand are managing SE...
If I were you, I wouldn't consider SE an option for smart phones. Motorola too. For Windows Mobile? Asus, HTC, HP are there.

Let SE do "walkman" thing, the dumb music player phone and Motorola do "state of art design" thing. Both companies made it clear with their recent decisions.

If I buy Symbian after all of these news, it would be a Nokia/Business one. In fact, Nokia could handle the UIQ too, they are just too busy with fantasy stuff right now. Remember 3dfx? It could be like 3dfx. Buy the intellectual property and hire the staff. Did you notice the amazing jump in NVidia quality/tech after 3dfx operation?

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Sad news. A nose dive, indeed.
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I fully understand why SE and Motorola decided to give up on Symbian to focus on WM and Android. After Nokia acquired Symbian, it just makes no more sense for these Nokia's competitors to continue to use Symbian. On the other hand, Android, being the lastest cutting edge OS, seems to give a lot of hope for them. I foresee that the market share for Android will rise at the expense of Symbian. Eventually Symbian may only be used by Nokia, similar to Blackberry for RIM and OS-X for Apple.

It is just not cost effective for Motorola, SE, Samsung, LG and other handset manufacturers to focus on too many OS. They have to give up some OS and it seems that Symbian is the casualty so far.
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Its worth noting that its Motorola that has given up on Symbian. Sony Ericsson have not. Sony Ericsson are planning to use the new Symbian Foundation Platform (i.e. S60 next).

I do agree that LG and Samsung may have to consolidate their platform strategy (though they've done well enough thus far). I don't think it is given that Symbian will be the one dropped (certainly not for Samsung). It makes more sense to drop one of the less technical capable / flexible platforms.

Android may be seen as new and shiny, but that does not make it better. Symbian has more cutting edge features than Android and is technically more advanced (reflecting its maturity). Of course the relative technical merits of each platform are only one factor in deciding what gets used.

And while Nokia has acquired Symbian it also setting it free opensource in the Symbian Foundation. Its the same as the OHA and Google.
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Re Samsung...

This may be poor taste or worse timing, but how about changing the "All About Symbian - Nokia (S60) and Sony Ericsson (UIQ) smartphones unwrapped" title to reflect the current market better?
 

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