Dedicated Nokia e-mail client now available from Beta Labs

[Tzer2]

A beta version of Nokia's new e-mail client for S60 devices is now available from Beta Labs, and provides an alternative to the default S60 Messaging application. It will work with most services including Gmail, but it doesn't currently work with Hotmail or corporate mail. (via Symbian-Guru.com)

Read on in the full article.

[Tzer2]

Apparently this new app includes support for push e-mail, something the Messaging application lacks.

[Jay3gsm]

I've signed up to try it out, but I'm curious to know how much the regular service will be before I get too used to using it!

[Tzer2]

Like a lot of online services they may try to charge as much as they can (using rival services as a guide price), and then lower the prices until it reaches a level people are prepared to pay. :-) In other words it could be that no one, not even Nokia, yet knows what the long term prices will be.

Personally I don't really want e-mail paid for separately from other data, it just confuses matters, but then I don't use mobile e-mail that much. Maybe if I was a heavy user I would prefer to have a separate charge?

Presumably they'll make the finished product compatible with corporate e-mail, as businesses are possibly the heaviest users of mobile e-mail in the world.

[vsuraj]

I got it preinstalled in the E71. Its got a pretty decent interface.
But don't think its really push email. It performs a sync every few mts, that's configurable. That's not as good as the blackberry.

[Tzer2]

Originally Posted by vsuraj

I got it preinstalled in the E71

Are you sure it was this particular app? I thought this is still a beta version?

[shadamehr]

I'll try it later, but after trying the Beta, and finding the same old problem that prevents me from using it, I suspect this is no different.

You see, my email login "email address" is along the lines of "generic_name@mydomain.com".

BUT, my actual email address I use, owning the whole domain, is actually "specific_name@mydomain.com"

Nokia Email, along with most other similar solutions, are terribly poor, in that they only let you SEND FROM the address that is entered for your email login.

So enter "generic_name@..." and it will let you send and receive mails, BUT stating they were sent from "generic_name@..." which is NOT my actually email address.

There was NO way to configure the Beta to let you use a DIFFERENT name for your Email address, other than the real login name that is required.

So, no use to me, as no one would know WHO the emails were coming from.

I suspect, despite feeding this back to them, the full version now is no different.

Waste of time for thousands of people if so.

[shadamehr]

And I've just re-read the News Post above, and realised it said "A beta version of... is now available".

Erm, I've been trying the Beta for a good while already... so what is actually just available now?

[Tzer2]

Erm, I've been trying the Beta for a good while already... so what is actually just available now?

I don't know what you've been using, but this app was only released yesterday:

http://www.nokia.com/betalabs/email

http://betalabs.nokia.com/blog/2008/...o-you-like-it/

The idea of this app is to access a service from Nokia which lets you use e-mail at a flat rate separately from other data charges. They've been working with phone networks to do this apparently.

It sounds like you've been using something else? Were you just using the e-mail setup wizard in the messaging application for example?

BUT, my actual email address I use, owning the whole domain, is actually "specific_name@mydomain.com"

You're right they should correct this, but this is just a beta version remember! :-)

[Ratkat]

Originally Posted by Tzer2

I don't know what you've been using, but this app was only released yesterday:

http://www.nokia.com/betalabs/email

No he is right this has been available for over a month now, see Darla's post from the 1st of July, I tried it for a week or so back then

http://darlamack.blogs.com/darlamack...-new-emai.html

[Ammar_Dento]

Yes this was released before weeks but i saw it in screenshot of E90..i use it in my N73 but NOW E90 isnt listed in the compatible devices..
Whats goin'on Nokia?...the flagship of the business phones isnt suppoerted by most have application for the business men?
Again Nokia?

[Tzer2]

No he is right this has been available for over a month now, see Darla's post from the 1st of July, I tried it for a week or so back then

This is all very odd.

If these are both the same thing, why do Beta Labs list it as launching yesterday, and talk about this being its first public beta?

They said "Hi, and welcome to the external beta launch of Nokia Email service!" in their blog yesterday.

Was the July release some kind of quieter invitation-only thing, while this August release is the first widely-publicised beta?

Whats goin'on Nokia?...the flagship of the business phones isnt suppoerted by most have application for the business men?

This version of the beta doesn't support corporate e-mail so business people probably wouldn't be interested in it. The release version should have corporate support though.

Remember this is just a beta test, it's not a commercial product yet.

[slitchfield]

Why do people keep talking about push email as if it's something wonderful and new? S60 Messaging (or UIQ or Series 80, for that matter) have had push email built-in and for free for years.

IMAP, configured properly, is instant and full push email. I've been using it to great effect for a year now on a S60 device to get my GMail pushed to me.

See, for example, my tutorial on IMAP at http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/featu...l_for_free.php

[Tzer2]

Just to add to what Steve said, does anyone really need push e-mail apart from journalists and certain other professionals?

For the average person, does it really matter if you get your mail straight away or in a few minutes time while on the move? You get it straight away when you check it anyway, and the only delay happens if the phone is in your pocket while you're doing something else.

It's rather amazing when some people talk about push e-mail as being "real" e-mail while POP or webmail are somehow not. Some news sites (such as the BBC) talk about Blackberries as if they invented mobile e-mail, which is just not the case.

I've been using the Nokia email service for well over a month. I found out about it from a Symbian-guru blog post. I got the original program from email.nokia.com. I don't believe it was an invitation only thing... maybe they also are offering it in Beta Labs because that site is higher visibility so they'll get more users to test it?