All the way back.... to the P1

[slitchfield]

Sony Ericsson has announced a number of feature phones plus a Symbian-based UIQ 3-running successor to their M600i and P990i. The 'P1' (apparently) has the best of both devices (though no P series 'flip' this time), with an upgraded camera (3.2mp), VoIP support, A2DP and 3G data, for European networks. More details and photos from Rafe, who's attending the launch event this evening. Watch this space.

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[jah]

Smaller and with more memory then the P990 - makes sense. The keyboard is innovative and compact - again makes sense. An upgrade to Symbian 9.3 and UIQ3.1 would make even more sense

[ares]

Jah, Symbian 9.3 would/will mean UIQ 3.2 (not out yet), not UIQ 3.1 (Symbian 9.2)

Official photos for the P1

http://www.sonyericsson.com/spg.jsp?...10864&esi=true

Any word on the processor ? Hardware accelerated ?

[krisse]

"Hygiene Features" !?!?!!?!?

P1 should have 4x more ram which is 80mb free by my calculations, if this site is anything to go by, meant to be a sony ericcson exec i think but don't think the processor has changed. w.symbianone.com/content/view/4490

[Mimmis]

Hi Steve,

You asked about RAM: the P1 has double RAM size (128MB) compared to P990 (64MB), but the important thing is the increased user RAM available for apps, which has been increased by approx 400% (>60MB on P1 compared to 15MB on P990), significantly improving multi-tasking performance and application behavior.

Some specs for P1 that may be of interest to developers:

- Based on Symbian OS v 9.1 and UIQ 3.0
- Supports both Java CDC and Java CLDC, see specifics further down.
- Developers can use the WLAN API to create applications using the WiFi feature
- Hardware accelerated 3D gaming supported by OpenGL ES API as well as Mobile 3D Graphics API for Java ME (JSR-184); Sony Ericsson to date has introduced over 50 3D-enabled phone models in its portfolio.

"More Applications" desktop icon improving visibility of 3rd party apps & content to end-users:
- Free Applications
- Try & Buy Applications
- Fun & Downloads
- Sony Ericsson Application Shop

There will be several third party applications preloaded on the phone and a large number offered as Try & Buy applications on the Memory Stick Micro (M2).

Sony Ericsson Application Shop currently has >350 UIQ 3 apps available for the P990 smartphone, M600 messaging device and W950 Walkman phone - most of them will work on P1 as well, reducing time-to-market for developers.

Detailed specs for the Java API's supported:

CLDC 1.1 environment:
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JTWI 1.0 (JSR-185) consisting of CLDC (Connected Limited Device Configuration) 1.1 HI (JSR-139), MIDP 2.0 (JSR-118), WMA 1.1 (JSR-120)

PDA PIM and File Access (JSR-75)

Bluetooth™ API (JSR-82)

Wireless Messaging API 2.0 (JSR-205)

Web Services (JSR-172)

Mobile Media API (JSR-135)

Mobile 3D Graphics (JSR-184) with hardware acceleration

Scalable 2D Vector Graphics API for Java ME (JSR-226)

Nokia UI API 1.1


CDC 1.0 (JSR-36) environment:
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Foundation Profile 1.0 (JSR-46)

Personal Profile 1.0 (JSR-62)

PDA File Access (JSR-75)


Hope this helps!
- Mimmis, Sony Ericsson Developer World

[slitchfield]

Thanks, Mimmis, very good to hear that RAM won't be an issue at long last. The P990i was such a mess in this regard.

And I heartily approve of the M600-ish design, the dual keyboard works surprisingly well. And there's now no bulky and clumsy phone flip to get in the way - it made the P990 soooo thick.

Steve

[w3rty]

I've seen it runnning and it's fast. Almost too fast

Nice in every way except....no 5 way navigation! Something like 90% of new phones have a 5 way navigator, usually a dpad, and from the m600 one of the obvious complaints was the awkward stretch from jogdial to *# due to the removal of the 5 way jogdial (to change tabs).
Given UIQ3, a joypad would be more useful, to go just above the keyboard in the same arrangement as the p990 (ie. with softkeys and home/back buttons).

On another issue, is the video QVGA 30fps for recording?

[Bassey]

11b WiFi?

You have GOT to be kidding! Surely this is some kind of a miss-print?

Krisse - I think hygiene features refers to terminology from motivation theory - Herzberg, I think it was, discerned between Hygiene factors and Motivation factors. Hygiene factors are those that, if you don't have them, decrease satisfaction. Motivation factors when added, increase satisfaction.

To cut the "bla" short -
Hygiene features are, I guess, the "must haves" - you'd be complaining if they weren't there. The stuff that really makes you happy are the other features.

Cheers

Jenny

[krisse]

"I think hygiene features refers to terminology from motivation theory - Herzberg, I think it was, discerned between Hygiene factors and Motivation factors. Hygiene factors are those that, if you don't have them, decrease satisfaction. Motivation factors when added, increase satisfaction."

Thank you for the explanation.

It seems a bit pretentious to use terms like that on a public press release. Something like "standard features" or "expected features" would be far more informative.

Most english-speakers probably wouldn't be familiar with the term "hygiene features", and I doubt most non-english speakers would find that definition under "hygiene" in their english dictionaries. Google has very few people actually using that phrase, only about 1600 references most of which are to do with actual hygiene in food production.

[jrmt]

> Comment: 11b WiFi?
> You have GOT to be kidding! Surely this is some kind of a miss-print?

No. See http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/05...ifi/page2.html

Quote: "Right now, every Wi-Fi phone in existence uses 11b, not the faster 11g. And there's a simple reason for that: battery power. The 11g technology gets its extra speed from a modulation system called orthogonal frequency division modulation, OFDM - a technology that applies to WiMAX too. It works, but there's no free lunch. To get more bandwidth, you have to use more power."

[Bassey]

I don't care HOW current phones support 11g WiFi. THe fact is that they do and that you don't need to run your WiFi router in mixed b/g mode in order to connect to them. 11b only is crazy, just as the world is going 11n.