N95 Voip Being Disabled - Naughty Network Caught Lying

[Jurgen_Nokia]

http://www.snapdrive.net/files/397494/VOIP_LIBERTY.mp3

That audio is funny, you can just imagine the girl, thinking she was onto a nice little commision earner from this customer.

I think she pretty much shows, Orange are not to be trusted when it comes to the NOKIA N95 and its missing features !

http://www.mobilevoipforum.org/showt...p?t=515&page=2

Br,
Jurgen

[clive6630]

A good example of Orange customer services not knowing what they are talking about. If she understands the questions then clearly she's lying, if she doesn't understand the questions then she should have clarified first before answering and making herself look like an idiot.

Those tarriff prices were extremely high too! £52.88 for 400Mb, jeez, you get up to 1Gb on T-Mobile for £7.50 and their coverage over the UK is just as good as orange now, and continually improving. And, of course, VOIP can be used on T-Mobile, but they don't like you to use tmob internet to connect to voip. At least it's still available on the phone tho for Wifi hotspots.

[beerglass007]

Originally Posted by clive6630

A good example of Orange customer services not knowing what they are talking about. If she understands the questions then clearly she's lying, if she doesn't understand the questions then she should have clarified first before answering and making herself look like an idiot.

Those tarriff prices were extremely high too! £52.88 for 400Mb, jeez, you get up to 1Gb on T-Mobile for £7.50 and their coverage over the UK is just as good as orange now, and continually improving. And, of course, VOIP can be used on T-Mobile, but they don't like you to use tmob internet to connect to voip. At least it's still available on the phone tho for Wifi hotspots.

Yeah ive just sent my upgrade back to Orange
Thanks Orange

I've now got the N95 on T-mobile.
Why dont they allow us VOIP over 3G data network?

[dez_borders]

Originally Posted by beerglass007

Yeah ive just sent my upgrade back to Orange
Thanks Orange

I downloaded Phoenix2007 and the generic Euro firmware, and applied it last night, now my Orange N95 works fine with VOIP (tested with Truphone).

I agree though, Orange are naughty for turning off standard functions of the N95.

[Nigma]

Where did you obtain the Generic firmware files?

thanks,
Ap

[impulse1985]

Can you show me a URL to download Phoenix from please?

Regards,

[Jurgen_Nokia]

brand generic firmware on branded handset - invalidates warranty

on a nokia n95 and taking into account the problems so far with the handset, im not willing to invalidate the warranty on a £5-6oo handset.

cancel the contract and use a operator who isnt going to pillage your phone.

[dez_borders]

Originally Posted by Jurgen_Nokia

brand generic firmware on branded handset - invalidates warranty

on a nokia n95 and taking into account the problems so far with the handset, im not willing to invalidate the warranty on a £5-6oo handset.

cancel the contract and use a operator who isnt going to pillage your phone.

If the handset dies completely, then it's very difficult to detect the FW was changed.
If the handset develops a minor fault, it's easy to re-flash back to Orange branded FW before sending off for repair.
Also, provided you have proof of purchase/delivery note, Nokia Care Centres will usually honour the warranty, providing the handset does not appear to be physically damaged.

However, your advice is sound and N95 owners should be made aware of possible consequences before deciding whether to de-brand or not.

[Jurgen_Nokia]

the point is Orange disable features on the phone and that is NOT right.

the solution is not to invalidate your warranty.

the solution is to cancel your contract and go with a network that doesnt pillage the handset.

dont forget - when you change up on the firmware, you cannot change down. So you may be stuck with generic firmware whether you like it or not - THEN your in *bleep* creek ;0)

[dsbowskill]

Originally Posted by beerglass007

Yeah ive just sent my upgrade back to Orange
Thanks Orange

I've now got the N95 on T-mobile.
Why dont they allow us VOIP over 3G data network?

T-Mobile do allow VOIP, but only on the WebnWalk Max tariff. £12 a month I believe.

[dez_borders]

Originally Posted by Nigma

Where did you obtain the Generic firmware files?

The Euro N95 FW is available via BB5 Reaper 2006, on the gsmegypt.com link (link#1 on the BB5 S60 USB Flash page)

Originally Posted by impulse1985

Can you show me a URL to download Phoenix from please?

I found Phoenix 2007 on www.megaupload.com/?d=EPZ4HGQ7

You will also need Diego, Dongle Bypass and Crack. They are available via BB5 Reaper 2006, in the Install Phoenix 2006 section. (The 2006 dongle bypass and 2006 crack work fine with Phoenix 2007)

Disclaimer:
Please note I cannot be held responsible for any damage to your handset if you choose to de-brand your N95 using Phoenix 2007 and something goes wrong during the process!
Also note, I have no links to the author of BB5 Reaper program or to gsmegypt.com / megaupload.com

[dez_borders]

Originally Posted by Jurgen_Nokia

dont forget - when you change up on the firmware, you cannot change down. So you may be stuck with generic firmware whether you like it or not - THEN your in *bleep* creek ;0)

It is true that you cannot downgrade the FW.

However, you can re-install the same version of the FW using the original Product code, which usually also re-applies the original Branding - i.e. Network Branding, additional or disabled functions, etc.

[Jurgen_Nokia]

@ Dez_Borders

I will say it again, the real solution is to return your handset and go with a network operator who does not disembowl the handset.

Invalidating your warranty on such an expensive phone is NOT the way to go.

Nokia will NOT honour any warranty in these cases.

And it is possible to read firmware information from a dead phone -

DO NOT BE FOOLED AND DO NOT FOOL PEOPLE INTO THIS ASSUMPTION :

YOU MAY COST THEM ALOT OF MONEY WITH YOUR ADVICE

[dez_borders]

Originally Posted by Jurgen_Nokia

@ Dez_Borders

Do you work for Nokia or one of Orange's competitors?

[Jurgen_Nokia]

dez_borders - I am giving impartial advice, regarding hardware warranty - not siding with any party in relation to network price plans or tariffs etc.

I am only presenting FACT and not misguided assumptions.

I am not faulting you directly but it is important to note that invalidating your warranty means you could potentially be left with a very expensive brick for your desk draw or mantlepiece

If you have an issue with how your network has modified the handset AND can return the handset, then that is the BEST option to take as you then have the oppurtunity to purchase a handset free from any network interference and have a hardware unit that is covered by the applicable Nokia warranty.

Is the file you are linking to (Phoenix 2007) freeware ?

PS - Just to clarify, your disclaimer legally means nothing, as you have already infringed copyright ..

PPS - I do NOT work for one of Orange's competitors.;0)