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TomTom and n95 built in gps

38 replies · 142,695 views · Started 04 April 2007

Hi folks

New here have recently turn't my back on an XDA EXEC and gone for the more sportier looking N95.

Need some help though. is there any way of getting the tom tom software on the n95 to use the built in gps unit. When i use to use this on my XDA Exec it had plenty of options for gps units but in this version only has 2 bluetooth ones. I have done plenty of searching goolge (and the search function of the site not a noob in that way lol) and could not find much on this topic.

I have installed the tom tom software on the n95 and it works a treat runs pretty smoothly apart from the gps issue.

All help would be much appreicated.

Cheers

TomTom needs to release an updated version that does not assume an external Bluetooth GPS receiver. I don't know if TomTom has plans to address that, or not, but they can if they want to. Ask them.

I read on another forum that a guy had emailed tomtom and they said the were working on it a present.

I should be easy for them to do. The PPC version can auto detect and use internal GPS chips. With the Symbian version they obviously 'streamlined' it and did not leave that feature because there were no GPS embedded Symbian phones around when V6 came out.

With the other GPS enabled Symbian devices coming out, it will be a massive market for them.

Thanks for all your help.

Lets hope tomtom don't take to long with the patch/new version as i really can't get on with that maps software.

Cheers

Scott

Yeah, the built in map software is pretty pants when you compare it to whats already on the market. Such as View Ranger and TomTom for Symbian and all the amazing stuff for Pocket PC.

Technically it a fairly trivial process to enable support for the internal GPS. Developers can use the location api built into S60.

I'd agree that its not up to the standard of Tom Tom but I suspect its going to be actively developed, and I guess you can't argue with having the functionality read to go out of the box.

I imagine the same will be true for copilot, navicore, route 66 etc etc.

View Ranger is great, but then its not for car navigation (well not really). However I think it shows what you can do with a well written piece of software. If your in the UK and use OS maps you should check it out.

And to show how easy it is to use the internal GPS, ViewRanger already has a version that can do just that. In fact, it will let you choose whether to use the internal or an external receiver.

I continue to be impressed by ViewRanger support and how quickly they are on top of things.

"Technically it a fairly trivial process to enable support for the internal GPS. Developers can use the location api built into S60."

It's a very trivial process. The internal bluetooth will be connected to a serial port on the CPU.
On a bluetooth GPS, the bluetooth stack provides a virtual serial port.
So technically, it should be a simple case of getting the software to use a different serial port.

Has anyone heard of when tomtom will be releasing a patch for this

I emailed tomtom the other day but i have not yet had a reply.

Hi,

This is the feedback I got back from Tom Tom.

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Thank you for contacting TomTom Customer Support.

Please be advised that the Nokia N95 is not on the compatibility list for Navigator 6. This does not mean that it is not compatible with the device, as the N95 is a very recent model and may not have been tested yet, but in any case is has not been added to the compatibility list.

In regards to your query, we would recommend that you do the following:

1. Do a Soft Reset on your PDA
2. Go into Navigator 6 (Tom Tom)
3. Go to Main Menu
4. Select 'Change Preferences'
5. Select 'Show GPS Status'
6. Select 'Configure'
7. Select 'Other NMEA GPS Receiver'
8. Ensure your Bit rate is set at '4800'
9. Ensure port is set to 'GPS Output' (this is phone specific, so if you do not have this option, you can try others)

Once you have done the above steps, please go back to 'Show GPS Status' to see if you have now received GPS signal (you will see the black and yellow circle in top right hand circling).

I hope this has answered your question.

If you have any further queries, please do not hesitate to email us further

With Best Regards

The TomTom Customer Support Team

i don't know if the internal GPS unit on the N95 offers a serial (COM) port to other software or if its limited to only its API. the serial port would be the easiest way to get this working but i haven't got the software to try it out =/

Nothing. The option for aother NMEA GPS is not in the Symbian version, only Windows Mobile version has this.

sborovic wrote:What to do?? I really want TomTom on my N95.... Anyone has an idea?

It's quite simple - you install TomTom on to your N95 and use a bluetooth connection to an EXTERNAL GPS unit, just as you would do with any other N series phone.

At the moment, TomTom does NOT support the internal GPS in the N95, but will work fine with any external GPS unit.

Hallo,
I am also interested to use tomtom with the internal GPS from N95. What ist the last version of the maps? Can someone test it? Because I don’t have TomTom jet, but if it works I will by it.

neotm

As far as I know, TomTom has not released a version yet that works with the N95 built-in GPS.

I have a N95 and use Tom Tom v6.02 (8300)
(Map version 660.129) on it, via bluetooth to one of these in the car....

w w w.crownhill.co.uk/product.php?prod=1477

Works an absolute treat and lasts for at least 6 hours if not more.

Im happy with this. The things you mention about trying to get to use the built in GPS in my honest opinion, might be a little waste of time. "Personnally" I dont want to have to have the face slid open to be able to use the GPS which has to be if you want to use it. (which I dont have to at present using the above via BTooth). The other thing to consider is also the battery life would be considerably less too using the internal gps as well.

So for me its fine as is.

The only thing about the tomtom, is that it appears more laggy on the screen compared to perhaps actual tomtom kits. But its PERFECTLY fine and useable.

So 3 things to improve in my opinion are:

1, Battery life,
2, Internal GPS enableable without sliding open the num/keypad.
3, Smoother animation for Tom Tom.

IXL

I cant imagine batterylife being an issue for most, as it will be plugged in.

Its standard to have to plug any GPS device in, regardless of what it is (mobile, dedicated device etc). True, you can run it off battery but they all come with adaptors.

Many people on these forums run satnav software using the internal GPS, be it route66, navigon, navicore, or nokia maps.

As tomtom is the best out of these, there is great demand for it to work alongside the internal GPS.

Hi guys..why are you wasting time with tomtom...try route 66 which is quite similar to tomtom..and works fine with internal gps of n95.
if you want to install read through the instruction on

<link removed>

DO NOT GO TO THIS SITE

First its just a route66 hack (allegedly - I bet its not) and then it tries to install something 'divX' to your computer, which IMO is most likely a virus.

Nice... 😎

Anyway, you got me curious about that site (stupid, huh?) so I checked it through skweezer.net. It contains the following text:

TOMTOM FOR N95
Lot of people claim on the net that they have a working solution for N95 internal GPS. They are all fake.
try this.
CLICK HERE TO download.
This is the only working copy of route 66 (tomtom type) for N95 which i have tested myself.
It will work 100%. You just have to put in little effort to sign the sis though (inst included).

...and a picture of a N95 running Nokia Maps :con?

Wether it's a virus or not, there's nothing new or interesting, so why risk it?

Anyway, I bet gpsm is soon done 'amending the source code', right? :tongue:

vg279 wrote:Hi guys..why are you wasting time with tomtom...try route 66 which is quite similar to tomtom..and works fine with internal gps of n95.
if you want to install read through the instruction on

www . vg279 . blogspot . com


I gave up waiting for TomTom, screw them, they obviously do not want to support the N95

Route66 / N95 works G R E A T !!!

Screw TomTom? You wouldnt have paid for it anyway. Its not like they are losing out.

Of course, you know best with your advice to me in that GPSM was going to turn up with the goods. 'Scuse me while I try not to laugh.

it does work well with tt6 just needs the external gps receiver as stated above.

these good gps units with 42 channels etc can be hidden in glove boxes and work well and pick up signals, they are sirf3 standard and a far better than the inbuilt stuff,

i,ve been running tt6 on my last 4 nokias, n73, n80, e65 and n95 always worked a treat

cheers
wayne
[email][email protected][/email]

Yes, but the whole point is that people want something that uses the internal unit, hence the title.

On another note, do moderators ever check anything? I reported that post about being a potential virus (as well as a link to cracked software) and its still there.

bartmanekul wrote:Yes, but the whole point is that people want something that uses the internal unit, hence the title.

On another note, do moderators ever check anything? I reported that post about being a potential virus (as well as a link to cracked software) and its still there.

hi Bart, missed you !

thanks for looking out for us ! you are NUMBER 1 :tongue: :tongue: :tongue:

Well, I figured someone better protect the naive around here, even if they are after cracked software.

I assume you never got the fix from GPSM like you said you would?

where should i put the folder with the maps. i tried putting in the root folder for my memory card but it is saying "cant find any maps".