All About Symbian - Nokia (S60) and Sony Ericsson (UIQ) smartphones unwrapped

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Old 10-02-2007, 12:39 PM
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N80 Vs. N95

I am wondering other than the obvious (camera, GPS) is there any difference between the two?

I am not a big fan of GPS. Sure, its cool that it is embedded, but if I wanted, I could just get TomTom + external receiver -- its not a must-have for me.

So far I have found out that both have:

1. WiFi
3. Bluetooth
4. USB
5. EDGE + 3G
6. Similar form factor
7. Radio

What is else does the N95 have that the N80 doesn't? I'm thinking about getting an N80 and just wanted to know if I overlooked any major drawbacks (other than the two major hardware differences of GPS and 5MP camera).

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I am wondering other than the obvious (camera, GPS) is there any difference between the two?

I am not a big fan of GPS. Sure, its cool that it is embedded, but if I wanted, I could just get TomTom + external receiver -- its not a must-have for me.

So far I have found out that both have:

1. WiFi
3. Bluetooth
4. USB
5. EDGE + 3G
6. Similar form factor
7. Radio

What is else does the N95 have that the N80 doesn't? I'm thinking about getting an N80 and just wanted to know if I overlooked any major drawbacks (other than the two major hardware differences of GPS and 5MP camera).

Thanks!
The only thing at the moment that would make me change is that it has a bigger capacity battery, but I will wait for a few months to see what people are saying about it, if the battery life is extended by a reasonable amount then I will probably change just for that reason.
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Is it not possible to get a higher capacity battery for the N80?

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Old 10-02-2007, 01:41 PM
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Is it not possible to get a higher capacity battery for the N80?
No, you will see on ebay, or online websites bigger capacity batteries, but these are fake and either dont last long, or are no better than the battery that comes with the N80..

Trust me if there was a higher capacity battery that was any good I would know about it and have one ..
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well the N95 is larger but thinner.

Its got a TV out.

Its got a larger internal memory.

2 extra Megapixels on the pics and the video should be better... (like thats hard)

Its HSPDA too.. so supposed to be quicker than 3G

And... it'll be newer.

If none of that floats your boat, buy an N80

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Old 10-02-2007, 02:15 PM
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oh, and RE the battery, Id think that any decent use on this phone, like the N80 will mean a newar daily charge

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yeh thats one major prob with the n80

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Old 10-02-2007, 06:49 PM
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The only thing at the moment that would make me change is that it has a bigger capacity battery, but I will wait for a few months to see what people are saying about it, if the battery life is extended by a reasonable amount then I will probably change just for that reason.
Agree! But I think the only real improvement is the camera, more even on video mode.

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well the N95 is larger but thinner.

Its got a TV out.

Its got a larger internal memory.

2 extra Megapixels on the pics and the video should be better... (like thats hard)

Its HSPDA too.. so supposed to be quicker than 3G

And... it'll be newer.

If none of that floats your boat, buy an N80
I guess I'm buying an N80 since neither of those are a big concern of mine.

I don't envision ever

* Hooking my cellphone to a TV
* Taking anything other than "hobby" photos with it
* HSDPA is not available on cellphones where I live
* Newer just means more expensive to me

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The N95 will have a significantly superior camera (with Carl Zeiss lens and autofocus as well as the extra 2MP) and a much better video capture. Even with the 3MP of the N80, I find it very difficult to get anything other than a blurry mess as the software is so unresponsive.

Speaking of which, the N95 is rumored to have a faster onboard CPU, which begs the question: why have they given the N95 a 320x240 res screen? I know that this will make things shift along a lot faster on the performance front, but that lovely screen is still one of the features that sets the N80 apart from the other full-ons. Internet browsing in particular benefits from this.

I suppose you have already answered your own question. If you don't need blistering performance and in-built GPS (what are the details of this anyway? Is routing software built-in? Will it be a 'Pay-as-you-drive' like Wayfinder?) and would appreciate the improved day to day experience that the N80's screen offers, then go for it and buy a bluetooth GPS and TomTom. I can highly recommend it.

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Yes I agree about the N80`s screen best in its class are far as i`m aware, and was what made me pick the N80...higher res than any other phone that I know off and crystal clear.....why the N95 has a lesser screen has put me off straight away...Intergrated GPS is a good idea and any improvement on the camera pic quality is a bonus, auto focus for one is a plus for the N95.
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Old 11-02-2007, 06:50 AM
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I can tell you a few things about the GPS:

* Its integrated and (so far) can only be used by the software that comes with the phone -- which, it just so happens, is also available as a free download
* Routing is not built in -- this is a pay-as-you-go service (which I assume incurrs data charges as the route information has to be downloaded). In addtion, POI information is not included, just basic location information.
* Voice guidance is a pay option

I think I'll purchase the N80. The only thing I don't like about the N80 is that I'm spoiled by my M600's keyboard and find going back to the 12 key arrangement a bit of a headache :(

Can anyone give some insight between the camera qualities of the N80 and the K750?

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I know this isnt relevant, but u might want to consider an O2 phone, (if you can get one in your country)

As much as i love my N80 and it has been a great phone (especially since i updated it to IE), when i come to upgrade in June im going to be going for either an O2 XDA Orbit http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=628 or an O2 XDA Atom Life http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=677

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I can tell you a few things about the GPS:

* Its integrated and (so far) can only be used by the software that comes with the phone -- which, it just so happens, is also available as a free download
* Routing is not built in -- this is a pay-as-you-go service (which I assume incurrs data charges as the route information has to be downloaded). In addtion, POI information is not included, just basic location information.
* Voice guidance is a pay option

I think I'll purchase the N80. The only thing I don't like about the N80 is that I'm spoiled by my M600's keyboard and find going back to the 12 key arrangement a bit of a headache :(

Can anyone give some insight between the camera qualities of the N80 and the K750?
Very briefly,

You can forget about using the N80 camera at night, or to get quick snaps, it relatively good in daylight with good light.

Video quality is crap.full stop.

one reason I bought the N80 was because it was supposed to have a great camera, so I didn't have to take my phone and camera out with me, but sadly I still have to take out my camera, its an 8 year old 3MP sony and takes superior photo's compared to the N80.

If you just want the odd snap now and then in good light then its ok, if like me you expect to take most photo's at night, then forget it as a camera phone.....go for the N95 instead if this is very important to you.
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OK - so you can't use the built in GPS with TomTom - but can you use Bluetooth ? I want it purely for the camera, plus a few other smaller tweaks such as the ability to play more video formats (I love podcasts, I commute daily). The GPS (built in) would be incredibly useful for me as a guy in London who often finds himself lost (I know buildings, slow accuracy etc.. but its a pointer!). Also, I think that it will have that newer o/s in it symbian 3 feature pack two ? ? ? And the other major feature that I will love is the headphone out!

I know the battery life is a bit of an issue with the N80 - but frankly, the way I use it I know I am going to have to charge it - Fring'ing in the evening, mp3 player during the commute, games, Gmail, and although the pics aren't great - with global warming the summers are going to be brighter and I have found it quite useful!

Personally I find it entertaining when people on trains get out there Ipod, blackberry, and mobile phone ... then get out the laptop...

Anyhow the ONE single thing I find annoying - the changing memory card settings - I mean why with 3 phones in as many years have I had to go from SD (Motorola A925), RMMC (6630) MiniSD (N80) and the N95 will be MicroSD. Shops are making a killing at the moment!!! I keep thinking I should buy a load cheap and sell them on the market!
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