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The Official Video Conversion Guide For N80/N73

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[SIZE="5"][CENTER]Video Conversion Guide For N80/N73[/CENTER][/SIZE]

[SIZE="3"]Part 1: Information
Part 2: Conversion Guide
Part 3: Disk Space Usage
Part 4: Hints and Tips[/SIZE]

[SIZE="4"]PART 1: INFORMATION[/SIZE]

A lot of people are being misinformed and mislead into using inferior quality codecs when converting videos for using on their NSeries phones.

There are two big issues. Firstly people are being advised to use a third party applications/programs like SmartMovie or DivX Player to use with their AVI format videos...

*FAMILY FORTUNES INCORRECT SOUND EFFECT*
WRONG!!!

Even lower end laptops struggle to smoothly play full screen AVI format videos so expecting this from a phone that has a hundred other features fighting for resources is a completely wrong way of thinking. Yea sure all them original state AVIs on your computer will play using these apps but unless you like stuttering audio and unwatchable frame rates of something like 2 frames per second, these files need to be converted into a more mobile friendly state and here in lies the issue. If CONVERSION IS MANDATORY why not use the standard built in video player and put less pressure on the ever unstable resources of your NSeries phone� QUALITY!! I HEAR YOU SCREAM.

*FAMILY FORTUNES INCORRECT SOUND EFFECT*
�AGAIN

This is where people make the 2nd mistake. People confuse formats and conversion codecs. The NSeries out of the box player for videos is the Real Player which supports Real Media formats (confusing and difficult conversion), 3GPP (crap quality), MP4 STANDARD (file size and quality issues) and MP4 AVC. People who I have seen in video conversion topics on this board have not always been been able to distinguish between the various formats. The Mp4 AVC is a high quality / low bandwith / low file size format that�s been made the Official Standard for Digital Video which means from now on it will be used in almost everything to do with digital media (unless a megalomaniac behemoth is involved *cough* Microsoft *cough*). The advantages of this format are obvious, amazing quality video, low file size. I�ve noticed people using the lower quality 3GPP and MP4 Standard codecs to convert files which is like your NSeries phone being a DVD player but you choosing to play VCDs on it only.

Unless your struggling for disk space there is only one logical choice. Converting your videos into a format that�s high quality, playable as standard on your NSeries phone.


[SIZE="4"]Part 2: CONVERSION GUIDE[/SIZE]

To convert your video files into the best format playable out of the box on your NSeries phone you need three things.

- eRight Super
(Advanced Video Converter, Freeware, LINK: http://updat1.free.fr/AD93AFC6A3D0FD9DBA9FDE/SUPERsetup.exe)

- The Super NSeries AVC Profile
(Created By Yours Truly, Attached To This Post, LINK AT BOTTOM OF POST)

- Video You Wish To Convert
(obviously lol)

1) Once you�ve installed Super and extracted the profile to somewhere on your hard drive start up Super.

2) Import the Profile (which tells Super what settings to use) by right clicking anywhere on Super�s Main Window and select "Import (Load) An External Super � Profile" and directing Super to where you extracted the Profile and selecting it.

3) Select the video file to be converted, right click anywhere on Super�s Main Window and select "Add Multimedia File(s)� then direct Super to the video file you wish to use and select it.

4) Click on the �Encode� button and wait until Super finishes the task (PLEASE NOTE: The Progress bar which shows up is for display purposes only it does not function so it will keep restarting)

5) Transfer the file from the �Output Folder Destination� (usually �c:\Program Files\eRightSoft\SUPER\OutPut�) to your phone using your usual method.

6) HEY PRESTO. You should now be able to play the video file in Gallery under Images & Videos.

[SIZE="4"]Part 3: Disk Space Usage[/SIZE]

An hour episode of something like Lost or Prison Break is about 140mb with the original settings from the profile. With a fast 2GB memory card goin for around �30-40 its worth getting one if you aint got one cause the quality is really comparable with lower end portable DVD players.

You can reduce the sound quality to mono by selecting "Channels" as "1" instead of "2" this usually reduces the file size by about 15% without much reduction on quality.

You can also set the "Bitrate kbps" to "228" instead of "336" this reduces the file size between 10-20% without any apparent quality loss.

[SIZE="4"]Part 4: TINTS & TIPS[/SIZE]

I've come across a bug in Super thats unrelated to the settings above. Sometimes the program randomly produces a corrupt file that will not be deteced on your phone in the Gallery. When this happens it lets u kno there was an error in red text under the audio section just delete the the file produced and start encoding again. Its a software bug which will get fixed next release seems this happens if a screen saver starts up or the computer goes into stand by mode so disabling these before conversion for larger files such as movies is recommended.
When playing videos back on your phone try not to have a lot of apps running at the same time as this reduces performance.

If you spot any mistakes, have any problems or wanna make a comment feel free to post them here.

Enjoy.

Attachments: Super_NSeries_AVC_Profile.zip (728 B)

Yea that's a pretty good guide. Maybe someone will sticky it. I like how it's very comprehensive. I actually haven't tried converting anything in terms of video to play on my n73 so Ill give this method a shot instead of doing it the normal way I usually do. Btw, does anyone know if the iPod Video plays mp4 AVC? I'm lazy to search.

Yea i know it plays mp4 standard but not too sure bout the AVC.

Trust me the above settings make your N73 a better video player than the ipod video i got both and the quality and clarity of the screen on the n73 definitely makes it watchable. Try it you will be suprised.

I tried it but I'm getting errors when it tries to encode, all the times. It says to use DirectShow, but that's not working either. Weird huh

Great guide! I've just successfully put a movie on my n73 to your instructions and it works great. I have to admit though playing encoded avi's on my avi player work just as well and the program is slightly more comfortable than realplayer. Its only a pity all movies are made in a way that they are very narrow so never fill up the screen. I don't suppose there's some way of fixing that is there?

Play around with the "Stretch It" option under the Video "Options" section.

Lemme know how you get on

hey, i've tried out the software... it works very well... and i've got to say the prints are amazing guys... it's cool...

Ok I've been using your settings and its been great. The only problem is that with mp4's they go into the gallery and make everything go really slow. With an avi player obviously I don't have this problem.
Could you please tell me how to use super to do the same thing only on avi format? Thanx!

I use a program called M3. Its simply the best. It is primarily for SE handsets, but you can create your own profile to match your phones capability's, as i did with my n73. I copied the k800i's, but changed the framerate, and changed the resolution to 352x288..stereo sound at 128kbps..full screen..

It gives the best quality films/tv etc, ive ever seen...used those settings with snakes on a plane, and it looks awesome.

MartinC#1 wrote:This is the Profile I am using.

It produces about 60MB files for a 45 minute TV show with good quality.

The codec your using is the H.263 in the 3GP container format.
Trust me if you use the profile I've provided the quality of the video you've converted will be on a whole another level.

Super has a few bugs in it and the developers seem to be dragging their feet regarding updates.

If checking different programs at the moment to see if any do the job well once something suits our needs i'll update the guide.

Hey 4site,

I have no doubt your profile will produce better quality video.

The profile I posted produces much more compact files & the quality when played back with the N73 hardware (in reference to its display, sound) is good.

So what I'm trying to do is get the file size as low as possible while maintaining acceptable quality. I'm not trying to produce files with the highest possible quality just a good compromise between quality/size.

I have some files that would playback fine on my N73 expect they need to be reduced from 25fps to 15fps.

Is there any software that can do this?

Hey Martin
Agree with your views about the whole issue of quality versus file size totally but a 1gb memory card is pretty much the standard nowadays and with the price of 2GB SD cards shooting down all the time there's no point having a phone with the capability to act on par with most personal media player (AS WELL as everything else it can manage to a exceedingly high standard) and not taking full advantage of it.

ROLL ON 4GB cards i say.

4Site wrote:Hey Martin
Agree with your views about the whole issue of quality versus file size totally but a 1gb memory card is pretty much the standard nowadays and with the price of 2GB SD cards shooting down all the time there's no point having a phone with the capability to act on par with most personal media player (AS WELL as everything else it can manage to a exceedingly high standard) and not taking full advantage of it.

ROLL ON 4GB cards i say.


4Site,

Even so I think your Profile is overkill,

I have some TV shows encoded in the following way,

320x240 180kbps mp4v + 64kbps-2ch mp4a (25fps)

The files are only 80mb for a 45 minute TV show. I watch these on my 80cm Tv & would rate them as VHS quality. On a 2.4" screen these look flawless.

The Video is 25fps, it's encoded in MPEG-4 ASP & the bitrate is only 180kbps!. We have only 15fps to encode & use AVC/H.264 which is even more efficient so anything more than 180kbps is overkill.

You might be right to keep the guide as useful as possible I'm gonna try lower bitrates to compare the quality/file size issue.

I'll post my findings in the next update of the guide.

Any1 aware of any AVC/H.264 encoders that have worked on the NSeries phones?

4Site wrote:You might be right to keep the guide as useful as possible I'm gonna try lower bitrates to compare the quality/file size issue.

I'll post my findings in the next update of the guide.


Keep up the good work.

after upgrading to the new bulid SUPER Version 2007 build 21... the option "stretch it" is gone...anybody know how can i stretch the widescreen movie in the new version?

hi ive saved the profile attached to this thread. i load up super. i import the profile and

(1) under "select output container" it says mp3 (audio only) . do i need to change this to mp4?

(2) under "select output video codec" its blank. what do i do?

(3) under "select output audio codec" it says mp3 is that right?

(4) under video bitrate kbps i see the option for 336 but not 228 which you recommend that we select to reduce file size. do you mean 288?

apologies if i sound a bit dense. im new to this conversion lark. any help would be greatly appreciated!!

thanks

The profile that you've downloaded is not valid anymore. That is only for the old version of Super. But don't worry, the programm is not as complicated as it may seem. So you going to start from a scratch.

1. Select Output Container - mp4 ( I used this container as it can be play with Realplayer and it is the best container for video rather than 3gp)

2. Output Video Codec - H.264/AVC ( This is the newest codec that can be played by N73 and the video is surely better than 3gp)

3. Output Audio Codec - AAC

4. Video Scale Size - 320x240 ( for N73; depends on your mobile resolutions)

5. Aspect Ratio - 4:3

6. Frame/Sec - 15 - (if you want better picture you can select 23.98 or higher, but than the file size would be bigger)

7. Bitrates - 240 - ( you can choose from range 192 - 336 for better picture)

8. Sampling Freq - normally 44100 - or you still can lower the freq but it effects the quality of sound

9. Channel - 2 - for stereo

10. Bitrates - 32 or higher

11. Then add your input/original file using right click options or just drag it into Super

12. Encode! - this going to take a while

that was it! Enjoy then.😊

thanks pnqiu!! top man! and also thanks to MartinC#1 and 4Site!

4Site produces great quality but ive found that the files cant be shared with my mates via bluetooth. they play fine on my phone but the icon is of a broken file for some reason

martinc#1 good quality and the videos can be shared!!

cheers people

Hi, guys.

I have an N73 ME (very thrilled 'bout it :biggrin😊 and since for now my home PC is busted really bad I only have my iMac at work.

So, any of you know how I can convert some videos using OS X software ?
Thanks.

Here are my SUPERv2007.build.21 Settings for my N73 w/c produces the least frameskip among other tested settings

Output Container - MP4

Output Video CODEC - H.264/AVC

Output Audio Codec - AAC

Video Scale Size - 320x240

Aspect - 4:3

Frame/Sec - 14.985 (has less frameskip than 15fps)

Bitrate Kbps - 384 (192 - 384 its up to you really)

H264 Profile - Baseline 1.2 (needed to be selected otherwise won't work with your phone)

Sampling Frequency - 44100

Channels - 2

Bitrate Kbps - 128

** Uncheck 'Use Direct Draw' **

** Uncheck 'Hi Quality' **

** Uncheck 'Top Quality' **

Attachments: N73_Best Quality.zip (794 B)

Appreciation to all the people who helped people with the new release of Super (about time) while i was away.

Please note within the next week or so I will update the guide

but i'm fed up of Super's unreliability so the next edition of the guide will be using M3 Mobile Music Video Encoder (freeware again) and will be as easy to follow as this version (if not easier).

Advantages of using M3 will include automatic variable levels of encoding to help people with limited disk space, more robust and reliable encoding, and (hopefully) thumbnails working in the Gallery for H.264 video.

Keep Fresh and Stay Active

S.I.T.E.

I followed your instructions perfectly, made a 180MB movie file and put it onto my 256MB miniSD. Went to play it on my N73 and got the message that there was not enough memory...please close some applications. There are no applications open that I know of... What do you think is going on here? Please advise. Thanks.
-Sam 😊

Hi!
I've got an N73, but when i convert my files in the mp4 AVC format they doesn't work on the phone.
Have you got a guess about it?:con? :con?

Well, ive been using M3 since it's inital version and it's come along way. Ive used super!!, nero etc etc, but m3 is simply the best by far.

Recent addition's allow for creating your own profile, for mobiles that aren't listed.

I use these settings for the best output ive ever seen from a converter...

Screen res - 320 x240 or 352 x 288

Video bitrate - 325

Sound bitrate 96 or 128 kbps (LC AAC)

Frames Per Sec - 15 (anything upward produces skipping..especially at 25fps)

Quality - Best

Did rocky iv tonight under these settings..and it came in at a reasonable 263mb.
Quite sufficient if you have a gig card or even a 512 card.

enterthemax wrote:Hi!
I've got an N73, but when i convert my files in the mp4 AVC format they doesn't work on the phone.
Have you got a guess about it?:con? :con?

More than likely the avc file is not in the right format

Is there sound or video or does nothing happen at all?

Video

Should use the H.264 / AVC codec
Resolution should be 320 x 240
Framerate should be 15 frames per second
Bitrate should be less than 384kbs
H.264/AVC Profile should be Baseline profile 1.2 (below should work too)

Audio

Should be in AAC format
Should be 44100
Stereo or Mono (means 1 or 2 channels)
Bitrate should be 128kbps or below

The audio settings are pretty flexible so can be adjusted to suit needs such as disk space and etc. The video settings however are pretty much set in stone so be careful they are not incorrectly set as this would make the file unplayable.

Watch out for the new guide being posted this weekend or early next week.