"Memory full" error on E70

[gtti2000]

I've been fiddling with my E70 for more than a month now. Browsing the web is wonderful, with the exception of an error message popping up saying "Memory full... blahblahblah". Happens when I load up a page with lots of pics like blogs. I have a 1Gb memory card. Is there anyway to tell the phone to use that available space? I've searched the threads about this problem since I came across it 2 days after buying the phone. Decided to register and post for help as I have no idea what to do anymore.

[elp]

Originally Posted by gtti2000

I've been fiddling with my E70 for more than a month now. Browsing the web is wonderful, with the exception of an error message popping up saying "Memory full... blahblahblah". Happens when I load up a page with lots of pics like blogs. I have a 1Gb memory card. Is there anyway to tell the phone to use that available space? I've searched the threads about this problem since I came across it 2 days after buying the phone. Decided to register and post for help as I have no idea what to do anymore.

This error has nothing to do with the amount of storage space you have on your phone or memory card.

Just like PCs, smartphones have 2 kind of memory: storage memory used to store your files and programs (that's your memory card and there is also 64MB of storage memory in the phone itslef) and RAM memory in which programs are loaded when they start and used by these programs to store all the temporary data they need while they're running. There is approximately 20MB of free RAM when you start your phone on the E70. As you launch more and more applications, the amount of free RAM goes down (unless you exit the applications instead of letting them running in the background) until there isn't any free RAM available in which case you get this "Memory full" error. With the E70, there is another problem too: when you open the keyboard, it seems that 7MB of RAM or so disappear, leaving very little memory for the other programs to execute.

If you want to monitor the amount of free RAM left on your device at a particular point in time, use the BestTaskMan application (it's a commercial application). To avoid these "Memory Full" errors, close the keyboard and try not to let too many programs running in the background. Unfortunately, the web browser is quite memory hungry so you might still get these errors when loading large web pages even if there are no other applications running on your phone.

[gtti2000]

Thanks for the info. Would it help if I used Opera Mobile instead? I've been searching for alternative browsers and that seemed the best option so far. If I'm not mistaken, the Nokia browser is based on the Opera browser but with minor changes. Btw, is the 20Mb RAM allocated to the phone part of the 64Mb total or is it separate? I'm asking since I've installed most of my programs on the phone memory itself.

[elp]

Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Symbian OS; Series 60/0610.04.04; 7439) Opera 8.60 [en])

Opera mobile is expensive but far better than nokia's web browser in my opinion. I do not know whether it uses less memory though but there's a 30 days trial version so you can try.

Nokia's web browser is not based on opera but on Apple's Safari web browser, which is itself based on the KDE web browser.

And, no, the RAM is not part of your phone's storage memory. It's a different memory chip alltogether. But it's still a good idea to leave a few MB of memory free on your phone's storage memory as applications need to store data on it such as configuration files. If you fill up your phone's memory with applications and files, strange things might start to happen

[gtti2000]

Thanks again. I think I'll give it a try. Cheers!

[hehe1213]

I just tried "Opera Mobile", the E60 version is suitable for E70 and it is much better than the original Nokia web browser but it is too expensive

[gtti2000]

Yes, I agree. $30 for a mobile browser is too expensive. I'll just wait for another browser or for the price to drop. Until then, I'll enjoy my trial version!

[nj7]

What about Opera Mini? Free. Is a JAVA apllication... But like others JAVA, is a memory hungry!

[gtti2000]

Yeah, I've heard about that as well. According to another thread in the forum, it is not as powerful as Opera Mobile. Do you know the differences in performance?

[hehe1213]

Originally Posted by gtti2000

Yeah, I've heard about that as well. According to another thread in the forum, it is not as powerful as Opera Mobile. Do you know the differences in performance?

You are right
The Opera-mini is not powerful and not user friendly. I deleted it after I tried for a short period (a few minutes)

You may try it as it is a freeware~

[SQAwire]

Have anyone tried the Thunderhawk Symbian browser. It is a unique browser of it's kind for series 60 phone, needs less memory, desktop experience and very fast. But. it is not free.

[slitchfield]

Unfortunately, web browsing's simply very RAM-intensive. Even the Services WAP/HTML browser needs the best part of 6MB 8-(

If only Nokia had put more RAM in each device. Anyway, you simply have to recognise that if you run up a web browser then everything else will close in the background, and that if you want to run Web on an E70 then DON'T DO IT IN LANDSCAPE MODE 8-)

Steve

[nj7]

Originally Posted by slitchfield

E70 then DON'T DO IT IN LANDSCAPE MODE 8-)

Steve

The best way, useless because of little RAM.

[hehe1213]

Try many methods, finally the best way is to make use of "Opera Mobile" instead of the internal nokia browser.

Opera Mobile 8.85 is just announced. It works fine on my E70

[en_croute]

What about a Virtual memory App to create a swapfile?
Is there any software to allow this?

You could then use your SD card as RAM.
Anything out there ?