Bluetooth Internet with 6600

mat.phillips · #1 19-12-2003, 03:05 PM

Ok, after failing to get a net connection in the way the 7650 and 3650 do. I decided to phone Nokia about it

After a while I got them to work out what I was talking about and they informed me that; yes the 6600 will not do this, and no, it's not something they will be looking into.

This is bad news for all I think.

So, we need one of the more tallented programmers out there to do something about this. It must be possible.

I remain hopeful !

sirox · #2 21-12-2003, 09:16 AM

It is not totally clear what you are talking about.
If it is about using the 6600 as a bluetooth modem to the Internet, that is of course possible and fully supported by Nokia. Just install Nokia Modem Options (which is on the 6600 CD) and you will be able to use the 6600 to browse the web.
If you are talking about using the 6600 as a bluetooth modem from a handheld, I know that this is no problem from PocketPC handhelds, as long as you use the correct init strings.
From Palm handhelds it is a bit more complex, but there is a very recent thread that explains how to do it.
Regards.

GhostDog · #3 21-12-2003, 12:37 PM

He is talking about sharing his PC's internet connection via BT with the 6600.It was is trick/tweak/hack that works on every other Series 60 and even UIQ Symbian smartphones but not the 6600,yet.

mat.phillips · #4 21-12-2003, 01:21 PM

Ghostdog is right. It is possible to connect the phone via bluetooth the a PC which has an active internet connection; the phone would be able to access the internet via the PC.

Nokia have removed this function from the new 6600, I was informed that this is something that they would not be supporting. I assume the networks have pressured nokia about it, because with the ability to do this, users were able to have mobile (ok limited to 10 meters mobility) with no airtime charges.

I assume that the change made by nokia is just some small tweak to the communications stack or protocol, It may be possible to install a small app onto the phone to ressurect the feature. Or it may be necssary to run something on both the phone and the PC.

Either way, I think that if someone could get this working and working well, the app could be sold for a small fee to almost every user of these phones..... a nice potential for some profit

Come on programmers..... you know you like a challenge !

sirox · #5 21-12-2003, 05:15 PM

I cannot see what good there is in doing that. Since you need to stay within a few meters from your own PC, it so much better to just use the PC for browsing... why use the phone?
Anyway, I hope someone will come with a solution for you.

trickyt · #6 24-12-2003, 09:56 PM

I for one would pay money for a fix that would let me use my 6600 to connect via Bluetooth to my PC and then surf the internet from the PC Broadband connection.

There is a good reason for doing that: The kids are on the pc, (and I would like to do it in the bathroom!)

sirox · #7 25-12-2003, 09:33 AM

Agreed. That could be a possibility.
However, I doubt that the bluetooth connection could allow you to do that with a wall (or bathroom's door) between you and the PC. A bluetooth headset, for example, would not be able to keep you in a conversation under such conditions...

jw · #8 25-12-2003, 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sirox
Agreed. That could be a possibility.
However, I doubt that the bluetooth connection could allow you to do that with a wall (or bathroom's door) between you and the PC.

The connection would be maintained.

GhostDog · #9 25-12-2003, 10:11 AM

It certainly will,i remember the old days,when AAS had a IRC channel on undernet.I used to IRC from my bathroom which was on the 1rst floor.The Bluetooth equiped PC was on the second

sirox · #10 25-12-2003, 12:10 PM

Oh, that's surprising.
Considering that bluetooth class 2 goes maximum to 10 meters of free air, and that in practical tests bluetooth headsets start breaking up the conversation beyond 5 meters of free air, I find it really surprising that you can get a bluetooth signal between two floors, unless the PC is exactly above your head.
Could be different if we talk about class 1 devices, which go up to 100 meters, but the 6600, like all phones, is class 2.
Anyway, if you can make it work, I am happy for you.

GhostDog · #11 25-12-2003, 03:09 PM

I've even tried it from my kitchen which is about 8 meters away from my PC and behind three doors and one wall.IRC is fine but transfering files takes really long but yes,it works.I'm using a MSI Bluetooth adapter and a Nokia 7650.

jw · #12 25-12-2003, 10:22 PM

Yep my HDW-2 headset cannot work properly if I leave the room where the phone is, however when I work with bluetooth data, the signal goes much further.

Maybe data broadcasts use some sort of data correction technique whereas audio doesn't? Data = digital, audio = analogue perhaps?

BTW - as you may or may not have read in a previous thread, I officially got my 6600 today (although I've had it a few days, today is the first day I've used it), so I'll be looking for ways to regain "bluetooth internet" support for the 6600.

Cheers

jw · #13 25-12-2003, 11:45 PM

Just an idea - have we determined if the "fault" lies with the phone itself or the mRouter? If it's the latter, has anyone tried using the 7650/3650 PC Suite (and mRouter) with the 6600? Any success?

mat.phillips · #14 26-12-2003, 09:32 AM

j2k: I have tried to connect the 6600 to the 7650 datasuite with no success.

The root of the problem is in the handset itself. From my conversations with nokia I got the idea they had made a change to the way in which the phone recognises it has a connection to the net.

If you have used the Wireless IRC app on the 7650 you may know that for it to work over the bluetooth for internet, you tell it 'none' for the access point. But the 6600 seems to only enable it's DNS or perhaps IP stack once a listed connection has been established.

This is conjecture of course. Still I'm happy people are interested enough to think about this and hopefully discover a workaround or patch.

Cheers