All About Symbian - Nokia (S60) and Sony Ericsson (UIQ) smartphones unwrapped

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Old 16-06-2003, 10:21 PM
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6600 release moved forward!

Nokia marketing in the UK have said that the release date for the 6600 will actually be moved forward. It will be available in Q3 and not Q4 as has been quoted in some places.

The 6600 is really a great looking device. MIDP 2.0 and all the API's to go with it will make it an awsome device, and it's S60 v2.0 UI with OS 7.0s is going to put it well ahead of the rest of the field. I wonder what Siemens are going to do with all those SX1's that poeple won't want anymore? hehe... SX1 going cheap, anyway?
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Old 16-06-2003, 11:01 PM
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I wish that was true. This phone seems flawless...
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Old 16-06-2003, 11:51 PM
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Re: 6600 release moved forward!

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I wonder what Siemens are going to do with all those SX1's that poeple won't want anymore?
I think this is BAD behaviour from Nokia

first, they sell the Series60 UI version 1.x to other phone manufacturers (siemens, sendo, samsung, etc.) ... then when the other producers are about to launch their phones...

BANG!

nokia shots them from behind their shoulders and PRE-announces (MONTHS before the real launch) that they will launch new phone(s) with a completely renewed release of Series60 UI!

I'd like to hear your opinions on this.

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Old 17-06-2003, 12:24 AM
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hell yeah, that was what i actually gonna say

how shitty nokia is they sell the license for the Series 60 v1.0 to other manfactures and they trick it with new models with more powerful OS

and now i;m wodnering if a company such as Siemens already licensed the series 60 v1.0 and do Siemens need kind of upgrade the license to v2.0 and pay more money to Nokia

or they got the free upgrade to V2.0

Later on Nokia is just like M$

but until now i still like Nokia phones
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Old 17-06-2003, 07:29 AM
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how shitty nokia is they sell the license for the Series 60 v1.0 to other manfactures and they trick it with new models with more powerful OS

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so what, i love nokia, even though there are better phones than the 7650, i'm not getting an upgrade untill it's a 3g phone from nokia, otherwise i would have gotten SEp800 which is much more powerful than the 7650,
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Old 17-06-2003, 07:33 AM
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S60 is Nokia's UI product. Why should they not get some advantage from this? After all, it's only a UI that sits on top of Symbian 7.0s. The other makers should have done there own UI or used UIQ if they want to get one up on Nokia. The best there are ever going to get using S60 is even.
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@faquick:
RE:Backstabbing or clever business? :-?
Business is Business i'm afraid and while it may not be ethical for Nokia to do this, it's a 'dog eat dog' world.
At least they're showing that they're one step ahead of the game all the time.

I'm sure it's clever business. And at the end of the day the phone looks awesome and i am sure that (student finance permitting!) i'll be getting one. Couple of points i've picked up though.
Where are the X-Press on covers? :(
and secondly, how are they gonna protect that camera in the back so that we don't experience 'phone-in-pocket-with-keys' problems a la 3650? :-?

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Old 17-06-2003, 10:39 AM
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@yourmanlee

from the picture i see there is a little plastic raised up to protect the lens from hitting the ground

i mean when the phone lay down there is a little step for the lens so it's not touuching the ground

but this is just when we put our phone down

not for when in the pocket
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they rulez!!!!
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I'm not saying moamoa is wrong, but I find that hard to believe. We are 10 days to Q3 and the phone isn't even tested. Than it still has to be shipped, supplied to the operators, etc...

So........... I don't see a blue sky ahead of us.
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Nokia is not backstabbing, they are just being smart!! sell version 1.0 to the other manufactors (they are not so smart, you should know that Nokia always has something up their sleeves ), and then walk over them again with a newer version. Nokia was, is and will be on top. Nokia has always made the best phones, with easy to use UI. Thats why most people stay with nokia. 6600 looks way better then th SX1,thats for sure. and i just know its gonna sell much better too.
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Nokia is not backstabbing, they are just being smart!! sell version 1.0 to the other manufactors (they are not so smart, you should know that Nokia always has something up their sleeves ), and then walk over them again with a newer version. Nokia was, is and will be on top. Nokia has always made the best phones, with easy to use UI. Thats why most people stay with nokia. 6600 looks way better then th SX1,thats for sure. and i just know its gonna sell much better too.
I don't think that other vendors bought only v1.x. I think the license agreement includes the whole S60 platform, also future versions of it.
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Old 17-06-2003, 12:27 PM
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Although,we shouldnt buy 6600 as soon as it will appear,coz for example N3650 has the FW 1.7(or 1.4 i dony remember),and there were a lot of bugs in this FW.
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I think that we are entering some non visible fields in this "did nokia backstabbed other companies" discussion. What can we know?

Does anybody saw the contract? They may have bought only v1.0, maybe they bought all the series. Maybe they bought all the series but can only release their phones after nokia... Maybe they were stupid. Maybe not. Don't you think that those business men that bought series 60 from Nokia didn't thought in this situation? What if they develop another software? They have surely think.

And all the companies that bought Series 60 from Nokia... Well.. they saved a lot by not developing their own software, so they can't complaint. It was a risk. Nokia is doing what anybody would do. Should Nokia stop developing just because somebody bought some software?? I really don't think so. As I don't think that the companies that bought series 60 didn't ask for certain clauses in their contracts. This is just pure speculation...

And it doesn't make nokia 6600 arrive sooner!
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Although,we shouldnt buy 6600 as soon as it will appear,coz for example N3650 has the FW 1.7(or 1.4 i dony remember),and there were a lot of bugs in this FW.
You are fortune telling now jimmy?Anyways,i don't think i'll go for the 6600,like i've said many times before,i need a more PDA'ish device like the p800 or maybe a new Communicator
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