All About Symbian - Nokia (S60) and Sony Ericsson (UIQ) smartphones unwrapped

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Old 13-02-2007, 05:49 AM
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Why Does S60 not sync Outlook Categories?

Can someone explain why S60 3rd phones do not sync the categories you have in Outlook, despite supporting categories within the phone itself? The built in PIM doesnt do sync it and neither do Acquacalendar nor Papyrus.

Is this yet another basic feature being "saved" for a feature pack or something?

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Old 13-02-2007, 09:08 AM
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There's no categories support in the Calendar on S60 3rd Ed. devices as far as I can see. How do you figure there is?

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Old 13-02-2007, 11:52 PM
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As far as I know you can have categories in Papyrus at least. Whatver the case, its is a pretty obvious omission if Nokia claims to be able to sync Outlook in full.

Hell even my alarms do not sync properly either.

This is the kind of basic things that will let Apple come around and eath their lunch.

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Old 14-02-2007, 08:00 AM
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So, Apple syncs perfectly with MS Outlook?

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Old 14-02-2007, 03:35 PM
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So, Apple syncs perfectly with MS Outlook?

I will sync perfiectly with something ie an Apple. Meanwhile Nokia is dicking around and people will go buy other stuff. I wont be shedding any tears when they lose customers.

For a supposedly "business-oriented" phone to not be able sync Outlook categories or calendars fully is just a big joke.
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Old 18-02-2007, 02:36 AM
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There was a press release this Friday that Nokia's Enterprise group designing E Series phones is to lay of 300 people because it isnt doing well.

Lets just say I wasnt surprised - they are not taking care of basics even. This syncing stuff is not sorted and the phones dont sync with OneNote or Outlook Business Contact Manager. If Nokia isnt supporting Macs then they lest they could have done was support PC's properly!

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Where exactly is the limitation? Is it Symbian? Is it S60? Or just the calendar- and sync application?

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Old 15-05-2008, 11:20 AM
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Both calendar engine/database (Symbian) and the sync engines/interfaces on both device and PC.

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Old 15-05-2008, 09:47 PM
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Both calendar engine/database (Symbian) and the sync engines/interfaces on both device and PC.
So this is not primarily a Nokia or S60, but a Symbian issue?
Has anyone already tried an enhancement request or a petition for calendar categories to symbian? (I am new to this and have no idea how responsive Symbian is to enhancement requests)?
Coming from Palm and Windows mobile, losing calendar categories is the main issue for me.

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Old 15-05-2008, 10:07 PM
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Vote for calendar categories!

Found one at S60.com:
http://www.s60.com/life/wishlist/dis...31&activeCat=7
Dont know if it helps. This one has 25 votes now, for 1st place we would need more than 745 votes, but need only rise to 76 for 2nd place.
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Old 15-05-2008, 10:35 PM
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Sorry for discussing this issue with myself, but I just checked the information on the Symbian Developer Network. When searching for 'calendar categories', the first document I get is called 'Using the new Symbian OS v9 Calendar API', see
http://developer.symbian.com/main/do...ndar%20API.pdf
There you will find the following:
"The Calendar API replaces the Agenda API that was present in versions of Symbian OS prior to v9.1,
and provides functionality according to the standard RFC 2445, which defines the iCalendar standard,
a common format for openly exchanging calendar and scheduling information across the internet.
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"3.3.5.6 Categories
One or more category types, defined in TCalCategoryType, can be associated with calendar entries.
The predefined types include: ECalAppointment, ECalBusiness, ECalHoliday, ECalMeeting, ECalMiscellaneous, ECalPersonal, ECalPhoneCall, ECalSickDay, ECalSpecialOccasion, ECalTravel and ECalVacation. The type is specified when the category object is created.
Categories are used similarly to attendee lists, with a CCalCategory object and AddCategoryL() and CategoryListL() methods.
The CCalCategoryManager object can be used to add or delete user-defined categories and to filter calendar entries by category asynchronously."

For me, this sounds much like the Symbian OS calendar database does support calendar categories from V 9.1. So this would mean, that just the S60 calendar app is ignoring it.
But I am not a Symbian programmer, maybe someone more into this could double check this?

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Old 16-05-2008, 03:01 PM
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Got some news on this from PocketTorch, the makers of AquaCalendar. They already use native Symbian categories. For syncing them with Outlook, they offer AquaSync.

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Hi everybody,
We finally have a solution for the elusive category syncing between Outlook and your S60 phone!

We are looking for beta testers to test this out, and I know many of you out there were waiting for this.

It is not our original solution but one that we hope will be satisfactory to your category syncing needs.

To sign up for the beta please sign up here:
http://www.sbsh.net/assembly.php?id=...67ce51561d8702
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Good to hear there is an attempt, but my God - it has taken two years to even come up with an attempt at this?

And in any case, shouldnt this be part of the core capability of the any S60 phone, rather than an add-on? Anyone who has a windows mobile phone has this capability, whether they use the built-in PM or 3rd party ones sucha s Pocket Informant. And they have had that capability for years.

One starts to see why Nokia's "business" division has not exactly done great, and been forced to go after mass market consumers....

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Old 18-03-2009, 04:20 PM
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Good to hear there is an attempt, but my God - it has taken two years to even come up with an attempt at this?

And in any case, shouldnt this be part of the core capability of the any S60 phone, rather than an add-on? Anyone who has a windows mobile phone has this capability, whether they use the built-in PM or 3rd party ones sucha s Pocket Informant. And they have had that capability for years.

One starts to see why Nokia's "business" division has not exactly done great, and been forced to go after mass market consumers....
Hi skagen,
Did you at least try our solution?
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