All About Symbian - Nokia (S60) and Sony Ericsson (UIQ) smartphones unwrapped

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Old 28-11-2010, 10:29 AM
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I've moved from an iPhone 3G to N8.

What I like about the N8
+ Full multitasking
+ The camera
+ Navigation
+ I don't have to use iTunes syncing just to transfer a file
+ Sound quality and strength (speaker and phone, headphones I have not tested)
+ Video playback
+ Widgets

What I miss from my iPhone
- Internet browser
(Hopefully this will change with the new Nokia browser. Opera mobile/mini is ok for now.)


Now I've temporarily changed back to my iPhone since my N8 has the power management problem and is at Nokia service.

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Old 29-11-2010, 11:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nilsrock View Post
I've moved from an iPhone 3G to N8.

What I like about the N8
+ Full multitasking
+ The camera
+ Navigation
+ I don't have to use iTunes syncing just to transfer a file
+ Sound quality and strength (speaker and phone, headphones I have not tested)
+ Video playback
+ Widgets

What I miss from my iPhone
- Internet browser
(Hopefully this will change with the new Nokia browser. Opera mobile/mini is ok for now.)


Now I've temporarily changed back to my iPhone since my N8 has the power management problem and is at Nokia service.
Generally I no longer post on AAS. I really see no point in it, however I feel a bit forced to answer some of the misconceptions floating around this thread.

+Full Mutli-tasking. The iPhone has had multi-tasking since version 1.0. What it did not have was 3rd party multi-tasking because in Apple's view it was not suitable to the way Apple felt it would be as energy efficient as possible. Second, ask the average person on the street which phones can multi-task and they would not have a clue. Thanks to sites like AAS, people are clamoring about things that they have no idea about.
+Camera. No brainer here. The N8 camera is great. When the OS is not up to par, the hardware better be.
+Navigation. Great. Nokia has pretty good navigation and it's free. The 3rd party nave solutions for the iPhone are equally as good. As this is not Apple's core business why get in the navigation area. Simply supply a platform for developers to develop for. Pretty simple.
+iTunes is pretty ubiquitous and common place. Some people like it, some don't. I like the fact that I can buy a movie, and download it in less than 5 mins (I have 200 Mbps at home) and I am out the door. No ripping or encoding. Putting a file on the iPhone is pretty simple even with iTunes, so the argument is a matter of taste rather than that of function.
+Sound quality. I concede this as I am not quite sure what you mean but the speaker on the iPhone is not mean to provide stereo quality. This is what headphones are phone I guess.
+Vid playback. Are you kidding? The iPhone is a media device that happens to make phone calls.
+Widgets. Agreed, but again unless they can be used unintrusively or a drain on battery, Apple will not see fit to allow them. It is all about the end user experience.

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Old 30-11-2010, 12:06 AM
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I went from an iPhone 4 to an N8 and do not regret it. I just couldn't stand the iPhone. Apart from a few standout apps I just couldn't get used to it. It was too square and awkward to hold, loudspeaker was poor, reception issues, absolute lack of customization other than wallpaper (my main reason for getting rid of it) and I couldn't stand the itunes reliance. The battery life was excellent though and the screen rather nice.

It felt like more of a 'gadget' or a small tablet to me than a phone so I hopped on Android for a bit then back to Symbian. Haven't yet regretted it.

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Old 30-11-2010, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by sapporobaby View Post
Generally I no longer post on AAS. I really see no point in it, however I feel a bit forced to answer some of the misconceptions floating around this thread.

+Full Mutli-tasking. The iPhone has had multi-tasking since version 1.0. What it did not have was 3rd party multi-tasking because in Apple's view it was not suitable to the way Apple felt it would be as energy efficient as possible. Second, ask the average person on the street which phones can multi-task and they would not have a clue. Thanks to sites like AAS, people are clamoring about things that they have no idea about.
+Camera. No brainer here. The N8 camera is great. When the OS is not up to par, the hardware better be.
+Navigation. Great. Nokia has pretty good navigation and it's free. The 3rd party nave solutions for the iPhone are equally as good. As this is not Apple's core business why get in the navigation area. Simply supply a platform for developers to develop for. Pretty simple.
+iTunes is pretty ubiquitous and common place. Some people like it, some don't. I like the fact that I can buy a movie, and download it in less than 5 mins (I have 200 Mbps at home) and I am out the door. No ripping or encoding. Putting a file on the iPhone is pretty simple even with iTunes, so the argument is a matter of taste rather than that of function.
+Sound quality. I concede this as I am not quite sure what you mean but the speaker on the iPhone is not mean to provide stereo quality. This is what headphones are phone I guess.
+Vid playback. Are you kidding? The iPhone is a media device that happens to make phone calls.
+Widgets. Agreed, but again unless they can be used unintrusively or a drain on battery, Apple will not see fit to allow them. It is all about the end user experience.

I started this thread because I wanted to know if anyone had moved from an iPhone to an N8 and what their experiences might have been. I made it plain that I am a current iPhone user and have been for the last 18 months.

Assuming that the people who post on this thread are all current or ex-iPhone users we are all aware of the device's strengths as well as its numerous weaknesses. What I, and presumably the majority of others who frequent a Symbian oriented site, want to know is whether the shortcomings of the new Symbian platform are easier to live with than the shortcomings of the iOS platform (on the iPhone - the iPad is beyond question the best tablet on the market right now). Because that's all a smartphone buying decision is or should be - deciding which set of compromises is easiest to live with.

Nobody ever sees any value in this "I must leap to the defence of my device" type of response so, with respect, unless you have at least tried moving from your iPhone to an N8 I would agree with your earlier comment - there is no point in you posting in this thread.
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Old 30-11-2010, 03:28 PM
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I went from an iPhone 4 to an N8 and do not regret it. I just couldn't stand the iPhone. Apart from a few standout apps I just couldn't get used to it. It was too square and awkward to hold, loudspeaker was poor, reception issues, absolute lack of customization other than wallpaper (my main reason for getting rid of it) and I couldn't stand the itunes reliance. The battery life was excellent though and the screen rather nice.

It felt like more of a 'gadget' or a small tablet to me than a phone so I hopped on Android for a bit then back to Symbian. Haven't yet regretted it.
Thanks for the response. I have decided to hang fire for a while to see whether the power management issue is resolved after Christmas.

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Old 06-12-2010, 11:14 AM
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Yea i think everyone has moved from an iphone to the n8.
n8 is really amazing cellphone its provide us every type of software or every think in it.that is why every has moved from iphone to n8.

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Old 06-12-2010, 11:43 AM
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How many own iOS devices.

A tangential thread hijack.
I am still using an N95 and joikuspot for computer & ipad action when needed.

How many people are using a Nokia handset and an iOS device for the stuff that isn't telephony?

What do people think of the call reception and call making qualities of the iPhone 4 compared to say my N95 or the more recent N97?

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Old 06-12-2010, 12:06 PM
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Me! I use my N8 with my iPad most days.

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Old 10-12-2010, 01:57 PM
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I have just got the N8 and was an Iphone 4 user.

After a week of N8 use here is my view

N8

So nice to be able to bluetooth something
Solid device and good screen
Email client seems slower than the Iphone opening up but good none the less
Email seems to have difficulty in downloading all images in emails
Just one Exchange account option (
Love the widgets
FM transmitter is way cool (Car use)
Calendar is ok but not as visual as iphone
Doesn't support Caldav unless you import through Beta Labs calendar (OVI)
Apps but guess this should pick up with time
TV out is a godsend in HDMI 720p
Camera is excellent
Social interaction is in very early stages but good
Menus oh and more menus and customisation is all down to you not dictated by Nokia ( I like this )
Web browser is hmmm a little under par with not just the iphone (Apparently to be updated)
Reception is excellent ---- EVERYWHERE !
Plays just about any format of video or music format
Free Navigation GPS ( FREE !!!! ) and it works
Supports Java apps


Iphone ( What I miss)

Notifications
Web browser
Email client ( Exchange )
Calendar ( Support for Google etc)

Iphone ( What I dont miss)

It works how Apple tell you it works and thats it , no customisation etc or very limited

Am I happy with the N8 . Yes I am . Its a new device so I am not expecting it to be a 100 % straight out the box but I think now is the time to skip back to Symbian . With all the interest in getting the platform back up there it should see some good updates

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Old 10-12-2010, 10:10 PM
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@wardy
Thanks for your response.

How would you rate the call reception/ signal strength compared to the iphone 4?

Also how is the quality of the voice calls compared to the iPhone 4? I mean the voice of someone calling you, doe it sound natural and clear for example.

Thanks again.

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Old 12-12-2010, 11:04 AM
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Reception as usual being a Nokia is best in class . The call quality as usual with Nokia is crisp and clear. You need to remember that Nokia are the best phones on the market in this area .

I never have dropped calls , transition between 3g and 2g is flawless, you'd be hard pushed to find a phone on par with Nokia in this area .

Alas though I am having battery problems and not the run times others are reporting . Mine is going flat at 8 hours just standby . I have just removed the sd card to see if this is causing the issue .

I don't want to turn the phone onto power save mode as I need internet connection and mail all day

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Old 12-12-2010, 01:04 PM
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Thanks for your reply Wardy.

That was the answer I was hoping to hear. I am not quite ready yet to change my N95. I am keeping abreast of things in case something happens to it.

I increased my useable battery life by turning off bluetooth and only using it as required.

I prefer to connect a USB cable to my computer to sync data for example.

With laptops display brightness is one of the main battery life users, perhaps you could turn the brightness down if you have not already done so.

Also Mr Litchfield has talked about mobile battery packs to top up a handset battery or replacing the battery with a second charged battery when needed.

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Old 12-12-2010, 08:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wardy View Post
I have just got the N8 and was an Iphone 4 user.

After a week of N8 use here is my view

N8

So nice to be able to bluetooth something
Solid device and good screen
Email client seems slower than the Iphone opening up but good none the less
Email seems to have difficulty in downloading all images in emails
Just one Exchange account option (
Love the widgets
FM transmitter is way cool (Car use)
Calendar is ok but not as visual as iphone
Doesn't support Caldav unless you import through Beta Labs calendar (OVI)
Apps but guess this should pick up with time
TV out is a godsend in HDMI 720p
Camera is excellent
Social interaction is in very early stages but good
Menus oh and more menus and customisation is all down to you not dictated by Nokia ( I like this )
Web browser is hmmm a little under par with not just the iphone (Apparently to be updated)
Reception is excellent ---- EVERYWHERE !
Plays just about any format of video or music format
Free Navigation GPS ( FREE !!!! ) and it works
Supports Java apps


Iphone ( What I miss)

Notifications
Web browser
Email client ( Exchange )
Calendar ( Support for Google etc)

Iphone ( What I dont miss)

It works how Apple tell you it works and thats it , no customisation etc or very limited

Am I happy with the N8 . Yes I am . Its a new device so I am not expecting it to be a 100 % straight out the box but I think now is the time to skip back to Symbian . With all the interest in getting the platform back up there it should see some good updates
Thanks for your response Wardy. This is exactly the sort of info I was looking for. So the N8 looks pretty positive overall but the power management problem and the battery problems that we sometimes hear about are a bit off-putting.

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Old 12-12-2010, 09:14 PM
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@Wardy again.

If you purchase another battery and it is better than the one that shipped with it you then can get the original replaced as a warranty repair.

If both batteries have the same life then you know there is not much you can do apart from changing the way you use your phone.

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Old 15-12-2010, 01:33 AM
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I completely agree with Wardy above - had a 3gs for 6months now had my n8 since release day and although im disappointed on several fronts compared to the 3gs, I am very optimistic for the future of the phone and the platform.

-I find the email very slow and clunky
-Web browser is soooo slow - even opera is slower than the iphone
-Apps - i just feel that 80% of the ones currently available are pointless blogs (I really miss iphone apps which seem better presented - trainline app is the best we have so far)
-small annoyances to remind you that the os is for use with proper buttons i.e. there are so many times where you have to press what you want and then press again to select as if ive had to move a dpad to my option and then press the button to select)
-the battery on the n8 is pants
The iphone is just so much more easier to use and the slightly wider screen gives a much more comfortable keyboard in landscape. I miss being able to plug it into the speaker dock.
I feel Nokia could have got it a little better knowing the competition they are facing.
I know I probably sound like i hate the n8 but i don`t, I just really want nokia to pull their finger out. I am really looking forward to the coming months no though.
 

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