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Old 04-11-2008, 12:38 PM
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Question Touch Communicator

Rafe

Great Review - Even though I'm not interested in this phone specifically you can get a feel for the Touch GUI!

How do you think it could be implemented on a Touch Communicator?

Similar small external screen with a numeric keypad out with internal touchscreen and physical keyboard
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Large external touchscreen, no physical keypad and non touch internal screen with physical keyboard
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Large external touchscreen no keypad and internal touch screen (with physical keyboard as well)

I guess some of the Sensor APIs would need to be changed so the movement of opening the internal screen didn't trigger them (like turning off alarms etc?)

Only trouble is well have to wait until probably Q4 2009 (at the earliest!) to find out!

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browser perfromance

Hi rafe, how's the browser -- any better or worse than a regular N-Series?

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Old 04-11-2008, 12:46 PM
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Back on topic...

Rafe -

Back to the point - how integrated is the touch in the GUI?

One of the things that bugged me when I mad a small diversion to the WM MDA Vario III/TyTN before my current E90 was that a mixture of keyboard/menu keys and stylus/screen was needed to navigate around.

I know WM is not the most constent in this aspect and wondered how Touch compared?

Can you navigate around and enter everthing with just the screen/stylus/finger and similarily with just the menu keys and keyboard/D-pad (if it had one!)

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no usb charging

Hello guys,
Do I read there is still no possibility to charge on USB? I gave up my 6210 classic partly because of this for a Motorola. I was fed up of having to carry around a charger when I work in front of a PC and can charge my phone whenever needed. I can even charge it in the train using my laptop. Now, if the 5800 does not charge via USB, it's going to be a problem for me. Isn't it for other folks? Does Nokia have an official reason why they don't use USB for charging the phones?
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Thumbs up Awesome review.

This review is on top along the Russian mobile website. Awesome, can't wait for the next part.

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Old 04-11-2008, 04:19 PM
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Can you put up some screenshots of the web browser ? Is it any different from the N series browser ?
Most importantly, will it be possible to copy text from an open web page and paste it elsewhere; say in notes or somethin ? Wonder if images can be saved by touching them as well.
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Old 04-11-2008, 04:27 PM
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Hello guys,
Do I read there is still no possibility to charge on USB? I gave up my 6210 classic partly because of this for a Motorola. I was fed up of having to carry around a charger when I work in front of a PC and can charge my phone whenever needed. I can even charge it in the train using my laptop. Now, if the 5800 does not charge via USB, it's going to be a problem for me. Isn't it for other folks? Does Nokia have an official reason why they don't use USB for charging the phones?
Thanks. -Mich
Nokia does use USB charging for their S60 now since N85. However development of the 5800 started prior to N85, which is probably why it missed out on USB charging. I feel its a safe bet that the N-series touch phone (or simply the next nokia touch) will have the usb charge option. Hence, if it is that important for you, suggest waiting out until the next wave of nokias.

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To all of you moaning about USB charging - you know that you can get a usb charging cable on Ebay for ANY Nokia for years?
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Phone Handset Great review

Thanks for the review Rafe, what's the GPS like?....and what (if any) navigation software is installed?

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To all of you moaning about USB charging - you know that you can get a usb charging cable on Ebay for ANY Nokia for years?
i know, but the one you are referring to does only that - charge. You still need a different cable for the data transfer. N85 can do both in one common cable. Thats what is ideal and what we are looking for...

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Since the review is so extensive (Thanks for that AAS), the big question for me is does it offer overal better value than the mighty Nokia E71.
I have serious concerns about the 5800's screen getting scratched pretty quickly and start to look banged up after a while, with all that touching.

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Radicaletc.,

I think you really are comparing apples and oranges.. i.e. two very differently targeted devices.

Anyway, a great first part of a preview! In my mind, to an existing S60 user the UI is very intuitive etc. However, there are obviously a few billion people out there that have not used the S60 and I gather Nokia must be in the process of developing something for them as well - whether its simply an "eye candy" layer on top of this, or something more fundamental remains to be seen.

ps. Anyone else having problems accessing Mobile-Review.com forum?

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@BOC

Sound is subjective. When you say, sounds better. What are the criteria to compare against? What sounds good to me will surely sound better or different to someone else.
There are objective technical criteria that can be used to compare audio quality. For example, how flat is the frequency response being output from the 3.5 mm jack in the frequency band that is audible to the human ear? This is one component that will affect how your music will sound that can be measured numerically. I believe that such data was provided for at least one of the N-series phone reviews on this site.

The thing is though, of course, that no matter how perfect the signal coming out of the 3.5 mm jack is, you will need a pair of headphones with a good frequency response anyway.

That and as you grow older, your own hearing's frequency response begins to perform less than ideally... in which case, a good equalizer on the Nokia 5800 would help to begin to address these situations.

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The most interesting question I can think of, is how does it handle old (S60 3rd) software? I'm guessing some of them that are entirely based on native UI elements should be fine - but what about other software, such as full-screen (non-Ngage) games?

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