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Old 04-12-2006, 03:05 PM
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what's so special about N80 IE?

What's so special about the N80 Internet Edition?
why do people risk bricking their phone to get this edition?
i don't have phoenix or any software... should I upgrade?

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Old 04-12-2006, 03:07 PM
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What's so special about the N80 Internet Edition?
why do people risk bricking their phone to get this edition?
i don't have phoenix or any software... should I upgrade?

Jeff
depends what you want .. if you want to make free sip calls to other free sip users (like skype) from your N80 then yes you need to upgrade,

Otherwise if you are happy as you are then you dont need to upgrade.
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Old 04-12-2006, 04:03 PM
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Has any1 noticed that the vid quality is better? The noise in the vid wen its in bad lighting isnt as bad as it used to be, also it isnt as bad when taking a image, the N80IE firmware change log did say it fixed this but i didnt think it wud, weldone to nokia!

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Old 04-12-2006, 10:15 PM
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Any other advantages apart from SIP and the improved video quality?

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Old 04-12-2006, 10:20 PM
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Changes/improvements made MCU SW v 4.0623.0.41 to v 4.0632.0.38:
- Additional applications (market dependent)
- Adobe PDF reader (Already in N80 standard)
- QuickOffice (Already in N80 standard)
- Lifeblog (Already in N80 standard)
- Kodak (Already in N80 standard)
- Search (Already in N80 standard)
- Catalogs (Replaced with Download!)
- Anti-Virus (Already in N80 standard but moved to Download! server)
- Download! (New for Internet Edition)
- Internet Telephone (New for Internet Edition)
- Yahoo GO! (New for Internet Edition)
- Additional Services
- Online Album (market dependent)
- Menu structure
- New "internet" folder created and the following applications are
moved/added to "Internet" folder.
- WEB
- Internet Telephone
- Download!
- Search
- New Support
- HS-69 enhancement is now supported
- Important changes in Video Sharing
- The addition of SIP VoIP means some changes in the SIP
provisioning. The following provisioning information is needed in the
OTA message otherwise Video Sharing will not work:

- Important information when using Backup and restore when moving to the
new Software.
- When restoring a backup image from a previous release of software
the 'Internet' Folder is lost and the applications are moved to the 'My
Own' folder.
- FOTA
- (Pull) is now enabled in most variants
- Audio
- Music Player fails to play .M4A HE-AAC file
- bass boost in equaliser
- Bluetooth
- Improved sniff mode
- fixes audio problems with BT headsets and carkits
- Browser
- Update UA Header for PR2.1
- Browser rendering and wrapping correction for Chinese characters
- Calendar
- Symbian Calendar Interim API does not accept Microsoft's
Recurrence IDs
- Camera
- Improvements in mains frequency compensation in video mode
- Burst mode can take different jpeg quality
- Audio/video missync in recorded video
- Update Noise filter to improve low light handling in still images
- Contacts
- Voice tag issue with phonebook when adding new contacts
- Data
- Phone cannot find other network if you have actived PDP context
- Display
- Correction for miss-read of ASIC version causing pink display
- FOTA
- Camera forward compatibility fix for FOTA update
- Sync agent forward compatibility fix for FOTA update
- UI notifications updated for APAC region
- Gallery
- Change low disk warning to 2.6mb and critical threshold to 600k.
- Gallery crash with slide show and invalid objects
- Icons
- Add new Internet folder icons
- Localisation
- Character conversion methods work incorrectly with some Chinese
characters.
- Memory card
- Error when encountering an unknown media with a password
- Cannot boot up with 2GB miniSD which formatted FAT 16 by PC
- Messaging
- Potential crash when re-connecting to POP3 mailbox
- SMS sending delay
- Potential crash when using always online with IMAP mailbox
- Operator
- Indication of the length of the MNC on a SIM - Requirement based on
EarlyIMS with a SIM reads IMSI from SIM but builds the private identity
with wrong domain
- Refresh notification is not received when EF-subscribed-LAC/CI is
updated on the SIM
- Homezone indication must not be shown during 3G PS
connection/download is active
- Operator naming list updated to version 89
- Call diverts not correctly shown for line1 line2 subscription
- RealPlayer
- Audio Streaming problem in UAE
- SIM
- The SIM Server's fetch control is reset when a refresh is executed
- Startup
- Change default date to 1st Sept 06
- Video Sharing
- Change Video Sharing SIP profile default setting. (See important
notes on Video Sharing at the start of this document)
- UPnP
- Fixes Turning Home network content sharing off forces WLAN
disconnect.
- Fix for UPnP localisation missing strings
- WLAN
- Offline WLAN notification fix
- Registration attempt in weak WLAN fails but WLAN stays up
Needed equipment for software update:
- Phoenix Service Software version 2006.34.2.156 or later
- Product Data Package v15.0
- PKD-1 Dongle & Flash Prommer FPS-10 or
DKU-2 USB Cable
- Product specific service devices
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Any other advantages apart from SIP and the improved video quality?

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I can't see any improvment in the video quality in low light, still cack for me but the stills camera images in low light are loads better now.

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I can't see any improvment in the video quality in low light, still cack for me but the stills camera images in low light are loads better now.
same here video is still sh*t, but stills are really quite good now....
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Old 05-12-2006, 01:31 PM
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Someone mentioned above that one needs to upgrade to IE version for using SIP applications, such as Skype. Is this also applicable to the Skype software (when they finally release it) that will communicate directly with the Wi-Fi router, and not via a PC. When Skype release this software, will I need to upgrade to IE for this to work?

I am very new to N80/Smartphone/Symbian, so go easy on me.

Thanks for any reply.

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Old 05-12-2006, 01:52 PM
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hi meirionwyllt, skype (allthough a form of voip) does not use sip so it wont make any difference (n80 or ie) for skype (and skype will have its own front end anyway and its the sip front end thats missing off the n80).

other voip providers use sip, the n80ie is sip compatible out of the box so you can put in your sip settings for any provider (if they supply them) or some providers (truphone) send a set up wizard that puts the setting on for you.

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Old 05-12-2006, 03:13 PM
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sm1thson, thank you for clearing it up for me.

So, specifically to do with VoIP-to-VoIP calls - if I convert to IE, then use a VoIP service that uses sip, will I then be able to talk to anyone that uses VoIP, or only ones that are subscribed to the same VoIP service that I am?

Also, when you say "get the sip settings from the provider", do you mean the VoIP provider (e.g. Skype), or do you mean the ISP that our broadband is connected to?

Thanks again.

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Old 05-12-2006, 03:54 PM
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sm1thson, thank you for clearing it up for me.

So, specifically to do with VoIP-to-VoIP calls - if I convert to IE, then use a VoIP service that uses sip, will I then be able to talk to anyone that uses VoIP, or only ones that are subscribed to the same VoIP service that I am?

Also, when you say "get the sip settings from the provider", do you mean the VoIP provider (e.g. Skype), or do you mean the ISP that our broadband is connected to?

Thanks again.
If you use a SIP service (such as sipgate, truphone etc..) You will be able to call any other person on any SIP provider for free.... e.g. a sipgate customer can call a truphone customer for free. You will not be able to call a skype user as they use their own propriotory network. You can however use your SIP providers call-out facility to call any landline, mobile or even a skype call-in number, but this will normallynot be free.

When it refers to settings, this will be from your sip provider.

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Old 05-12-2006, 04:38 PM
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but note, not all sip providers allow free calls to people using other sip providers.

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Old 06-12-2006, 02:11 PM
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Thank you both for the above replies.

I have one last question - does anyone know of any websites that compare "calling out" rates of different SIP providers, and Skype?

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so... is there a safe way to upgrade to IE without bricking my phone?
just got this N80... don't want to make it a paper weight.
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