All About Symbian - Nokia (S60) and Sony Ericsson (UIQ) smartphones unwrapped

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Old 19-02-2008, 11:14 AM
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Nokia talks 3D hardware (finally!)

Nokia has finally given a clear statement that there WILL be enhanced versions of N-Gage games for phones with 3D acceleration chips. Phones without the chips will get the same games, but because they use software to generate 3D their graphics will be less snazzy-looking.

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Old 19-02-2008, 11:22 AM
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Im getting 404 errors on some links your posting today.

Is it true the N96 and other upcoming phones dont have these 3d chips the N95/N81 etc has?

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Old 19-02-2008, 11:44 AM
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Can you give some examples of links with 404 errors so we can fix them? Thanks for letting us know by the way.

As far as I know the N96 does have a 3D chip. All of Nokia's smartphones with TV Out have a 3D chip, because the 3D chip also provides the TV Out feature.

The N81 does NOT have a 3D chip.

Nokia has just given a big speech on using 3D hardware in phone games, and it's extremely unlikely they'd do that if they were going to stop making phones with 3D hardware.
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Old 19-02-2008, 11:51 AM
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Im reading so many things in so many places on the net its hard to keep a track on whats true and whats not.

The N81 was my mistake though, I just assumed it had one due to it being for gaming.

The 404's, the link in your initial post on this thread: http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/news/...are_finall.php

And one from the 'One' website: http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/news/...e_launches.php

Both return a 404, its possible its my connection but I havent had any trouble with anything else this morning.

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Old 19-02-2008, 11:55 AM
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The TV Out chip and 3D chip are the same thing, so if you want to know which S60 phones have a 3D chip, just look for ones that have TV Out support.

It is weird that the N81 doesn't have a 3D chip, like you say Nokia advertised it as having a lot of gaming capability.


Regarding the 404s, did you get those links from the forums?

They should have allaboutngage instead of allaboutsymbian in the middle of the URLs, there's a bug in the way the AAS system posts news items to the forum from All About N-Gage.

We'll try to get this fixed! :-)
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Old 19-02-2008, 11:58 AM
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Yup, the forums.

Nokias specs pages dont seem to say if theres a 3d chip or not, so I assume its only ones that have TV out.

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Old 19-02-2008, 12:16 PM
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Until we get the forum bug fixed, can you visit the links through AAN's main site?

http://www.allaboutngage.com/

Sorry about this, but the links do work if you navigate through the site itself.

I don't really understand why Forum Nokia doesn't mention the 3D chip, they mention practically all other specs!

But like I said, so far they've always used the same chip for 3D and TV Out so that's presumably the best guide to finding 3D chip phones.
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Old 19-02-2008, 12:21 PM
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Oh no worries, I was just pointing it out for referance.

Im finding it increasingly hard to find one place that gives a full spec list.

One has everything but screen size, another didnt mention the 6210N has an accelerometer, etc.
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Old 19-02-2008, 12:26 PM
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Forum Nokia is probably the best place, it's meant for developers so it tries to give as many technical details as possible:

http://www.forum.nokia.com/devices/matrix_all_1.html

...but even Forum Nokia doesn't mention the 3D chips directly, just the TV Out. Hopefully that will change once the 3D chip enhanced games start appearing.
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Old 19-02-2008, 12:30 PM
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Thats the one that misses screen sizes. Bizzarre that.

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Old 19-02-2008, 01:00 PM
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I think they leave out the physical screen size because it's not relevant to software developers (which is who Forum Nokia is aimed at). The only thing the developers have to know about a screen is its resolution and colour depth, though I agree it would be nice if they mentioned the size too as this can really affect how well some apps work.
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The E90 has 3d acceleration, but not TV out...

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Oh wow! i was beginning to think that including phones like the N73 would decrease the quality of games in average, but nice knowing they're doing this! woot!

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Nokia n96 has no 3D acceleration and that was asked from n96 product manager. Video acceleration and 3d acceleration are completely different things. Probably lack of 3d hw acceleration saves battery life.

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The E90 has 3d acceleration, but not TV out...
E90 is not N-Series...
 

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