All About Symbian - Nokia (S60) and Sony Ericsson (UIQ) smartphones unwrapped

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I still can't figure out whether or not it has a touch-screen. Anyone found something on that?
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I still can't figure out whether or not it has a touch-screen. Anyone found something on that?
Don't think so. "Input method: Phone keypad + full QWERTY keypad"

It will support MMC just like the old one, which is good.


But hey, there is no FM radio! :(

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Been checking out the specs and pics, one big question is -

Why isn't this Series 90?
It seems strange as this is meant to be Nokia's big push into the corporate market but they don't base it on the latest GUI?

I know the 7700 is a media centric consumer device and therefore not aimed at the same market but the it seems a step backward? (Preumably they have given the series 80 a backported facelift from series 90?)

I suppose it means there will be no touch screen, but will it also mean that media support (MP3, Mpeg4 etc) will not be as good and I will have to choose betweenthe 9500 for 'serious' office based applications or the consumer media friendly 7700 instead of having the best of both worlds?

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Jago,that is why Nokia phones are the best sellers.If they made the 9500 perfect,it would destroy the market.This is what the 9210i should've been in the first place.Series 90 and a touchscreen would've made it perfect.
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Thats what Im talking about Ghost!

way toooo goo babeh!@#$#%%^&


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vibrator?????

what about vibrator? any mention anywhere or did i miss it???

dont tell me they forgot to put in a vibrator?

outlide looks suck!!!

im not too imopressed with it.maybe i need for details.

maybe this would have been a better deal.
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The 9210 didn't have vibra,so i'm guessing this one won't have it either.

It wouldn't be a Communicator without a FULL QWERTY keyboard.
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im lovin it

it looks amazing and i love the screen

actully i love everything

now that its announced 2 questions pop im mind

1.when?
2.price?

i love that it has 2 screens 65000 colors and that it plays mp3

nokia say 4th quarter 2004

i ll be dead by that time

80 mb wwwwooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooww
now thats memory

lighter and smaller
comparsion
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1.Like you said,Q4 if its not delayed.
2.800 Euro Sim Free.

I love it too,i just wish it had a touchscreen but apparantly it has some sort of a mouse like pointing device that Nokia reffers to as the "rocker" key so i'm half pleased.

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can u confirm the price?

also its a shame they removved the antenna

i sorta liked it
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Hope the product goes into production soon and launches into market more sooner!

OMG! 800 Euros is predictably too much
for a product which hasnt been yet launched
into the market, 1000$ USD.

I will surely, and definately buy it and get rid
of this shitty 9210i since that is out.

I don't think that phone has a vibrator its
such a heavy phone 250gms anyway how
would it vibrate!

When will they introduce it into the market?
Most likely when is it gona be availiable in
ASIA, singapore, malaysia etc regions.

I hope it stands up to the mark of the P900.
The P900 has dual mmc slots by the way.
But still this new one would support more
than 256mb cards or likely anyway. So memory
is not to bother about.

The only thing is I don't like the outlook, I thought
it would be more stylish. The PDA interface looks
good but from the outside I don't like it.

First of all every company has replaced black color
by silver, as we can see old tv's were black now all
new electrical devices, tv's, cd players, portable cd
players, cell phones are in silver. The era for the black
color has ended. While nokia has introduced black color
again in the new commy.

Ismail:
The antenna was of no use anyway, so it's better they
removed it. It had no function on signal strength it was
just taking up space and, just used for a decoration
piece thats all!

I think its okay if there is no touch screen. Touch screens
are very delicate as well, and as this phone has a full
keyboard interface, there is no touch screen needed.

The sonyericssion phones such as p800 and p900 have
touchscreens because they don't have a fully navigational
keyboard.

Here are the key features, revived from the press release:

Key Functions and Features
Like its predecessors from the first Communicator family, the Nokia
9500 Communicator takes the most popular office solutions mobile by
bringing e-mail, personal information management, with PC
synchronization, browsing, vertical enterprise applications and even
document, spreadsheet and presentation creation into the pockets of
mobile professionals, allowing them to effectively utilize their time
while on the road. Other features of the sleek 222-gram (7.83 oz.)
device include:

Tri-band GSM capability (two variants: 900/1800/1900 MHz and
850/1800/1900 MHz)
GPRS/EGPRS (EDGE)
Wireless LAN IEEE 802.11b
Symbian Operating System 7.0S Platform with J2ME Personal Profile
environment
In-built VGA camera & Multimedia messaging
Bluetooth audio and data support
USB connectivity (Nokia Connectivity Cable DKU-2)
80 MB of free user memory
Two color (up to 65k colors) displays with
640x200 pixels, Series 80 User Interface
128x128 pixels, Series 40 User Interface
E-mail support: POP3, IMAP,
Email: IMAP4, POP3, SMTP, SyncML
Security: SSL/TLS, Ipsec VPN
Browsing: HTML/XHTML, HTML 4.01, JavaScript 1.3
Office tool support: documents, spreadsheet, presentations

Also unveiled were the Connectivity desk stand for convenient
charging and synchronization with a compatible PC, the Mobile Holder,
which firmly holds the Nokia 9500 communicator in place in the car,
and the Antenna Coupler, which provides a connection to an external
antenna. For personalization, optional color covers are expected to
be available.


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They also said colored covers would be availiable which I
think would be good as well, we can change black to any color we like then.

They didn't mention support of polyphonic ringtones I suppose it would be present.

Also USB connectivity would be quite alot faster than the previous com port.

Well I like the both phone and PDA have two seperate interfaces of symbian now 80 and 40 which would be good to see. Both are colored and 65k screens as we expected.

Rest other features as predicted are there as well.
Any other feature which is not included and we expected please do mention in the threads guys!


Anyway I would buy it, not surely the month in which it is released because the price would be damn high, I will after 5-6 months when the price will drop and some people would have started to purchase it. I will sell my 9210i and buy the 9500 for sure!



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Old 24-02-2004, 06:15 AM
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Thumbs up The Nokia 9500 Communicator

Announced February 23, 2004

The Nokia 9500 Communicator combines the features of a business PDA with multimedia, advanced messaging, and high-speed data capabilities. With its range of connectivity and security features, the device is particularly suited to enterprise applications. It offers a large color display – 640 x 200 pixels – and full keyboard when open. The integrated VGA camera provides users with the ability to capture and share images.

Messaging features of the Nokia 9500 Communicator include Multimedia Messaging Service (MMS), Synchronized Multimedia Integration Language (SMIL), instant messaging (IM), and e-mail. Connectivity options include EDGE, WLAN (802.11b), Bluetooth wireless technology, USB 2.0, and infrared. Among its security features are SSL/TLS, VPN, IPv6 and IPsec, file encryption, and MultiMedia Card (MMC) software locks. Digital Rights Management (DRM) support includes OMA forward-lock, with delivery via HTTP download or MMS.


Here are a few links I gathered around the web.
Some reviews and pictures.

The original nokia 9500 communicator website is up!
And the link is: http://www.nokia.com/nokia/0,,54106,00.html

Also High resolution Pictures of the 9500 communicator
are at: http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/gallery/Nokia-9500

A list of features/specifications of the nokia 9500 communicator:
http://www.forum.nokia.com/main/1,6566,015_91,00.html


Some useful links of the new communicator I found across the web are:

http://www.mobileburn.com/review.jsp...source=HOMETOP
http://asia.news.yahoo.com/040223/3/1d01m.html
http://www.brighthand.com/article/No...0_Communicator
http://www.electricnews.net/news.html?code=9395958
http://www.mobilemag.com/content/100/340/C2511/
http://www.edubourse.com/finance/act...?idActus=13656
http://www.infosyncworld.com/news/n/4636.html


ANSWERS TO SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS

1. When will the Nokia 9500 Communicator be available?
The Nokia 9500 Communicator will be available in 4th quarter of 2004.

Meaning in the last 3 months of 2004. Well thats alot of time, so start saving cash! You have to wait 8-10 months from today onwards to see the phone in the market I guess!


2. In what networks can I use the Nokia 9500 Communicator?
The Nokia 9500 Communicator can operate in GSM 900/1800/1900, EGPRS (EDGE) and WLAN networks, which essentially means that it can be used on all five continents where these networks are supported. Additionally, a separate variant with GSM 850/1800/1900 will be launched for the US market.

3. What are the new features of the Nokia 9500 Communicator?
- Two color displays supporting up to 65,536 colors
- WLAN
- EGPRS (EDGE) packet data support
- Tri-band operation on five continents
- Symbian 7.0 OS
- Bluetooth™ audio and data
- VGA camera
- Multimedia messaging support
- Enhanced product security with IPv6, OMA DRM lock
- MIDP2.0 and personal profile Java
- Nokia Pop-port™ connector supporting a variety of Nokia enhancements


4. What are the key features of the Nokia 9500 Communicator?
- Flexible and fast network connections with integrated WLAN and EGPRS (EDGE)
- Full set of business-critical applications like email, Personal Information Management (PIM), office tools, and Web browsing
- 80 MB built-in memory and memory card support for additional data and application storing
- Wide compatibility with most popular existing IT systems (Microsoft and Lotus)
- Easy terminal management and administration with configuration tools and device management solutions (OTA, PC tools)
- Robust and open Symbian platform for company specific applications and flexibility
- Security solutions for different usage levels in the device and data connections


5. What are the key applications for the Nokia 9500 Communicator?

Phone with enhanced voice features
Messaging and browsing with both GPRS and WLAN
Mobile email
PIM and Office tools (Document, Sheet, Presentations)
Enriched communication with camera


6. Can I listen to music with my Nokia 9500 Communicator?
The Nokia 9500 Communicator has an integrated music player that supports the following audio formats: MP3, MPEG-4 (AAC), Real Audio, and MIDI.


7. What languages does the Nokia 9500 Communicator support?
The Nokia 9500 Communicator supports the following languages:
UK English, German, French, Italian, Spanish, Dutch, Swedish, Finnish, Danish, Norwegian, Portuguese, Hungarian, Polish, Turkish, Czech, Greek, Russian, American English, Canadian French, American Spanish.


8. What are the color options of the Nokia 9500 Communicator?
The Nokia 9500 Communicator will be available in one color, Tin Grey, in all regions. In addition, user-changeable Xpress-on™ front covers are sold separately.


9. How many colors do the two displays of the Nokia 9500 Communicator support?
The Nokia 9500 Communicator has two 65,536-color displays with 128x128 and 640x200 pixels.



SOME PRODUCT REVIEWS/FEATURES AND SPECIFICATIONS

Band Functionality:
GSM

Operating Frequency:
850/900 / 1800 / 1900

Browser Version:
Opera 6.x Browser, XHTML over TCP/IP, HTML over TCP/IP

Enabling Technology:
Java MIDP 2.0, MMS, Personal Java™

Java APIs:
MIDP 2.0, Personal Profile (JSR-62), Nokia UI API, WMA (JSR-120), MMAPI (JSR-135), Bluetooth API (JSR-82 no OBEX), JTWI rel.1 (JSR-185), CDC (JSR-36), Foundation Profile (JSR-46)

Data Bearers:
CSD, HSCSD, GPRS, EGPRS

PC Connectivity:
Bluetooth, Infrared, USB, WLAN

Resolution:
640 x 200, 128 x 128

Color Depth:
65536 Colors (16 bit), 65536 Colors (16 bit)

Messaging:
MMS w/ SMIL, SMS

Digital Rights Mgmt:
OMA DRM forward lock

Video Support:
H.263, MPEG-4, 3GPP streaming video, Real Video 8
Music Support:

MIDI tones (poly 24), True Tones (WB-AMR), AAC/MP3, MPEG-4, WAV

Dimensions:
148 x 56 x 23.6 mm
Weight:
222 g

Navigation Key:
Grid and Qwerty key mat, 3 labeled softkey, 5 way scrolling

Extra Features:
VGA camera, SMTP/POP3/IMAP4 email, WLAN (802.11b), Word compatibility, Excel compatibility, Powerpoint compatibility, Handsfree speaker, SyncML, MMC



The 9500 communicator device provides a full range of applications, including:

Opera 6.x Web browser with HTML and XHTML support
E-mail client (SMTP/POP3/IMAP4)
Contacts, Calendar, and other PIM applications
Video and image viewers (MPEG-4, 3GPP, RealMedia formats)
Word processing with Microsoft Word compatibility
Spreadsheets with Microsoft Excel compatibility
Presentation viewer with Microsoft PowerPoint compatibility
The Nokia 9500 Communicator is a tri-band device for markets in Europe, Africa, the Asia-Pacific region, and the Americas. Audio and ring tone formats include AAC, AMR, MIDI (poly 24), MP3, and WAV; audio output is also available via Bluetooth connection. Note that messaging functions, Java™ application downloads, browsing, and high-speed access all require operator and network support.

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I also compared the P900 and Nokia 9500 Communicator according to their specs and features.

The P900 is the top #1 and A-1 phone in the market upto day and the communicator is going to be the new one after it so here are the comparisions.

SonyEricssion P900
-115 x 57 x 24mm, 150g
-12MB internal memory, MS Duo slot (hotswap)
-65 536 colour TFT screen, 208 x 320 (208 x 208 with flip closed) pixels
-input device: touch screen and stylus
-connectivity: CSD, HSCSD (28,8 kbps + 14,4 kbps), GPRS (85,6 kbps + 21,4 kbps with CS-4 coding scheme)
-ringtones: MP3, AMR, MIDI (poly 16), WAV, RMF, AU, iMelody
-data transfer: IrDA, Bluetooth
-email: POP3, IMAP4, SMTP
-internet browsing: HTML 3.2 (excluding features such as frames and Javascript that are not revelant to a small screen device), WML 1.3, WBXML, xHTML Basic, xHTML Mobile Profile, cHTML
-extras: camera (VGA + video recording), games, MP3 player, themes


Nokia 9500 Communicator
-148 x 56 x 23.6mm, 220g
-80MB internal memory, MMC slot (hotswap)
-Two 65 536 colour TFT screens, 640 x 200 (PDA) and 128 x 128 (phone) pixels
-input device: grid keypad and qwerty keyboard
-connectivity: CSD, HSCSD, GPRS (53, 6 kbps), EDGE (236,8 kbps), WLAN (11 Mbit/s)
-ringtones: MP3, AMR, MIDI (poly 24), WAV, AAC
-data transfer: IrDA, Bluetooth, USB 2.0, Pop-port interface
-email: POP3, IMAP4. SMTP, SyncML, always-online, SSL/TLS, SMTP authentication
-internet browsing (Opera 6.x): HTML, XHTML, JavaScript™, file upload, WML 1.3 support, audio-video plug-in, DRM plug-in, OMA download plug-in, Flash Player plug-in, multiple windows (10)
-extras: camera (VGA + video recording), games, MP3 player, RealOne Player, XpressOn covers


As we can clearly see the Nokia 9500 Communicator beats the SonyEricssion P900 with its features and specifications.

Therefore I conclude this phone would be much better than the P900, incase if sony decide to release a newer model than the P900 because it is already one year old and the communicator will reach the market by the end of this year and would be common by the start of 2005.


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I love it too,i just wish it had a touchscreen but apparantly it has some sort of a mouse like pointing device that Nokia reffers to as the "rocker" key so i'm half pleased.

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I'd like to know more about the'rocker'. The cursor that appears in 9210 internet browser is not working too well. A mouse in Commi sounds interesting

And if the decision to stay with series 80 means that all the 3rd party apps for the old Commi are still compatible, it may be a justifiable decision.

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Somes pics and vidéo here

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Someone nicked my 9210 two days ago. I wish the prat waited until the end of the year to do it coz having to spend money buying a 9210i just a few days after announcing the 9500 feels like a sick joke. Maybe then, it may not be such a bad thing. At least I'll be a wee bit better prepared to wait a few months after availabilty to buy the 9500 so that any bugs will hopefully by then be ironed out.

Anyway whatever the reservations the new model got me drooling. Flashes of the Psion 5 are coming back to me. If Nokia cant give us both keyboard and touch screen, at least give us better software.
 

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