All About Symbian - Nokia (S60) and Sony Ericsson (UIQ) smartphones unwrapped

Old 06-02-2008, 01:51 PM
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Exclamation Thinking of W960i

Hi all
I'm new, so please bear with me (though I have had a bash at the Nokias N95 forum).

I'm thinking of going for the W960i - yes, I'm leaving the N95 8GB -
Can anyone tell me the advantages/diadvantages of this change (with regards the cnage from N95 8gb to the W960i 8GB) ?

Thank you - much appreciated

Old 06-02-2008, 06:37 PM
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Old 07-02-2008, 01:01 PM
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Well a lot of info is available about the 2 phones for people to decide for themselves but for me the biggest differences are :

1. W960 has a touch screen (great for running tomtom, web browsing etc)
2. Nokia uses the S60 GUI, SonyEricsson uses the UIQ GUI. (This is personal preference)
3. I would say the W950/W960 give the best sound quality of any music phone devices at the moment. (I have even seen reviews that suggest thanks to sonys heavy involvement in the walkman part of the phone the sound quality is better than an Ipod, again subjective).
4. Nokia have a dedicated standard 3.5mm headphone jack. (However I always use the wireless bluetooth headset with my W960)
5. Camera. W960 = 3.2megapixels, N95 5megapixels
6. Nokia has built in GPS. W960 will need a little external bluetooth GPS device.
7. weight : w960 = 119g, N95 = 129g

There are many other differences but the above are the main ones for me.

Old 07-02-2008, 03:00 PM
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Thank you, Gebbly.

I've never really been a Nokia fan, but have had a few Nokia phones over the years. Then again, I've had a few SE phones too.

My last SE phone was/is the W850i... absolutely fantastic!
The missus has possession of it now.

I've had the Nokia N95 8GB, as an upgrade option, for 2 weeks, but sent it back only yesterday as it was hopelessly disappointing...

I'm looking for a good upgrade... now maybe it's gonna be an SE ...

possible options are:
1. SE P1i
2. SE P990i
3. SE W960i
4. Nokia E90
5. O2 XDA Orbit 2

spoilt for choice? you bet!

What would you go for?

Old 08-02-2008, 10:42 AM
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[caveat, the following is merely my personal preferences, each to their own]

Well I recently got myself a new w960 and I am very happy with it so far.

Firstly I rather like the whole open OS (SymbianOS+ UIQ) thats on the high end SonyEricsson phones that lets me install from a mass of software on the web. Presently I have tomtom, a tool that lets me connect to internet and access my home PCs files from phone, some games and more to go Also a big fan of touchscreens. I've had a few phones with the little joystick type control in the middle and find over time dust and dirt get in there, jam them up and make them unresponsive.

For me the only advantage the P990 has over the W960 is the full keyboard if you prefer that to handwriting recognition. However this is more than made up for with 8GB of internal storage, smaller/lighter and a better camera.

The E90 has some nice features like a larger full keyboard, HSDPA and built in GPS but for my personal use I found the E90 just a bit too big. My standard test is to take a pair of jeans which have that small change pocket inside the main pocket and try and fit a phone in there. (The W960 just fits)

I dont have much experience of the orbit 2 but its spec has some nice features with in-built gps and hsdpa however for me its a touch bigger, a bit heavier and doesnt have the 8GB of inbuilt memory (which is good to install apps and mp3s to). It does have a SD card slot but that will be an extra expense.

The P1i seems to bridge the gap between the p990 and w960 with a semi-full keyboard and more memory than the p990 yet less than the w960.

Two of the biggest influencing factors for me were using tomtom which I found more intuitive on a touchscreen device and the fact that I like to use my phone as my mp3 player too and the w960 has very good sound quality.

Each phone has ups and downs making them suitable for people with varying requirements. I suggest you have a think about the sorts of things you want to do with your phone and then check out the specs. For me the w960 was the perfect choice.

Old 08-02-2008, 12:09 PM
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Hi all
Hi Gebbly

Thank you for your informative post

Regarding the W960's touch screen, doen't that make the phone vulnerable to some extent as there is nothing to protect it when dropped... I mean, I can drop it on a hard, rough surface, screen facing down... won't that affect the usability of the screen?

I have the P900, touchscreen, which is semi-protected by the keypad.

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again this all comes down to personal usage. The screen is bigger than some phones certainly and hitting the screen hard may damage it but that is the same as all phones.

There was some concern when I first bought a mobile phone abut protecting the screen. However given normal usage I have found I have never dropped a phone hard enough to damage it.

Just have a think if your lifestyle has caused you to ever seriously bash your phone. For example part of th p900s screen is still exposed, have you ever hit that hard and damaged it? Only problems I have ever encountered with phones is getting dust into the little joystick.

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Thanks again, gebbly

Will be in touch for software info. if/when I get the W960i

Thanks, once again

Old 12-03-2008, 02:28 PM
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I just got myself a w960i and I feel it was def a better choice. I am now a great fan of touch screen and to protect it I have ordered Martin Fields screen protectors, since they come according to the exact screen size per each phone.

I only got this phone 2 days back and since then I have been able to browse the net via WLAN (I have SKY bb and net gear router) with ease, watched a movie while travelling on the tube to work today, which I had converted using a very neat software.

The audio sound quality is amazing and the pics look great too.

Now I only need to figure out how to add the songs to playlist coz I have added diff music folders from my pc and all the tracks are showing up together which is very irritating. Also am looking for a something like a media player for managing and listening to my mp3s.

All in all a great phone.

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Old 13-03-2008, 02:37 AM
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w960i is pretty amazing

I had the w950i for about a year. At first I was a bit disappointed, but it was because I did not know how to properly use the phone. Once I became comfortable with it, I really liked it. It was a real head turner with friends as well.

The W960i is an incredible improvement. The WiFi and 3.2 MP Camera has made this phone 10X better than the W950i (although the internet browser is a bit limited) I'm having fun discovering all the new features of the W960I (like the capture business card feature I tried today).

So far the only negative I have found with the phone is the price. I had to buy an unlocked phone off of eBay for $600. If you can get it for free (or around $200) with a good provider contract: DO IT!

Old 01-04-2008, 12:39 PM
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Thumbs down Bad phone

This is undoubtedly the WORST phone I have ever used. There are so many things wrong with the design of it I don't know where to start. One example is that when a text comes in an alert comes onto the screen. This alert uses half the screen space & until you have answered it you cannot continue to do anything else. So if you are in the middle of writing a text or dialling a number you have to tell the phone you don't want to read the text in order to continue. If you agree to read the incoming text, the one you were mid writing is lost. Everything about this phone is clumsy. There is not one saving feature. If you fancy touch screen think again with this touch screen. It is inaccurate & often you need to do the same action 10 times to get the response you want. Horrendous.

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funny never had a single problem with mine

Old 16-05-2008, 07:30 AM
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also thinking of w960i - but GPS options?

The views here are very interesting. I would like to get the w960i instead of the N958Gb mainly due to the size and weight. However, I would like to use it as a satnav when in the car. I note that Gebbly says he runs TomTom on his.

Can you confirm that TomTom works and what version?

Can you let me know what GPS recievers are known to work well with it?

Many thanks

Old 12-06-2008, 07:45 AM
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W 960I is very interesting. Thank you much appreciated

Old 12-06-2008, 03:09 PM
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Yes, I also run Tomtom on my W960i - It works absolutely fine.

I use mine with a Holux bluetooth GPS receiver. From my observations, it connects quicker to the satellite than the built-in GPS receiver on an actual Tomtom unit!

Now, as for my personal opinion of the W960i, I've heard a lot of bad reports, mainly from people who seem comfortable with the standard symbian layout.

I'm not sure about Ricky Cadden's comments. He's entitled to an opinion, but from what I read, he's decided to trash the phone on the basis of a single aspect (and incorrectly too...if you recieve a text message while you're writing one out, the message you're writing gets automatically saved and placed into the 'Drafts' folder) - Also, with regular calibration (something that most touch screen phones & PDAs have), the accuracy can easily be improved!

Personally, I really like my phone. It's not perfect, but I've not looked at another phone since! - If I was to make a gripe about the phone, it is that the messaging function can be a little slow, and that Sony Ericsson's accompanying software needs some serious debugging!

For everything else, I believe my W960i can do anything almost any other phone can, and in some cases, it can do it better! It's got a very good sized screen, music playback is superb, pictures are very sharp, calendar functions are user-friendly, the layout is intuitive (especially for such a feature-rich phone!), and it crams a hell of a lot in there!

Biggest bonus - it's not a Nokia (sorry, after several bad experiences with Nokia phones, the W950i was my first Sony Ericsson, and the 960i is a phone that I will be using for a VERY long time!


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