Can someone explain why S60 3rd phones do not sync the categories you have in Outlook, despite supporting categories within the phone itself? The built in PIM doesnt do sync it and neither do Acquacalendar nor Papyrus.
Is this yet another basic feature being "saved" for a feature pack or something?
There's no categories support in the Calendar on S60 3rd Ed. devices as far as I can see. How do you figure there is?
As far as I know you can have categories in Papyrus at least. Whatver the case, its is a pretty obvious omission if Nokia claims to be able to sync Outlook in full.
Hell even my alarms do not sync properly either.
This is the kind of basic things that will let Apple come around and eath their lunch.
So, Apple syncs perfectly with MS Outlook? 😉
N/A wrote:So, Apple syncs perfectly with MS Outlook? 😉
I will sync perfiectly with something ie an Apple. Meanwhile Nokia is dicking around and people will go buy other stuff. I wont be shedding any tears when they lose customers.
For a supposedly "business-oriented" phone to not be able sync Outlook categories or calendars fully is just a big joke.
There was a press release this Friday that Nokia's Enterprise group designing E Series phones is to lay of 300 people because it isnt doing well.
Lets just say I wasnt surprised - they are not taking care of basics even. This syncing stuff is not sorted and the phones dont sync with OneNote or Outlook Business Contact Manager. If Nokia isnt supporting Macs then they lest they could have done was support PC's properly!
Where exactly is the limitation? Is it Symbian? Is it S60? Or just the calendar- and sync application?
Both calendar engine/database (Symbian) and the sync engines/interfaces on both device and PC.
N/A wrote:Both calendar engine/database (Symbian) and the sync engines/interfaces on both device and PC.
So this is not primarily a Nokia or S60, but a Symbian issue?
Has anyone already tried an enhancement request or a petition for calendar categories to symbian? (I am new to this and have no idea how responsive Symbian is to enhancement requests)?
Coming from Palm and Windows mobile, losing calendar categories is the main issue for me.
Found one at S60.com:
[INDENT]http://www.s60.com/life/wishlist/displayWishDetails.do?wishId=731&activeCat=7[/INDENT]
Dont know if it helps. This one has 25 votes now, for 1st place we would need more than 745 votes, but need only rise to 76 for 2nd place.
Make YOUR opinion count!
Sorry for discussing this issue with myself, but I just checked the information on the Symbian Developer Network. When searching for 'calendar categories', the first document I get is called 'Using the new Symbian OS v9 Calendar API', see
[INDENT]http://developer.symbian.com/main/downloads/papers/Using%20the%20new%20v9%20Calendar%20API.pdf[/INDENT]
There you will find the following:
"The Calendar API replaces the Agenda API that was present in versions of Symbian OS prior to v9.1,
and provides functionality according to the standard RFC 2445, which defines the iCalendar standard,
a common format for openly exchanging calendar and scheduling information across the internet.
"
...
"3.3.5.6 Categories
One or more category types, defined in TCalCategoryType, can be associated with calendar entries.
The predefined types include: ECalAppointment, ECalBusiness, ECalHoliday, ECalMeeting, ECalMiscellaneous, ECalPersonal, ECalPhoneCall, ECalSickDay, ECalSpecialOccasion, ECalTravel and ECalVacation. The type is specified when the category object is created.
Categories are used similarly to attendee lists, with a CCalCategory object and AddCategoryL() and CategoryListL() methods.
The CCalCategoryManager object can be used to add or delete user-defined categories and to filter calendar entries by category asynchronously."
For me, this sounds much like the Symbian OS calendar database does support calendar categories from V 9.1. So this would mean, that just the S60 calendar app is ignoring it.
But I am not a Symbian programmer, maybe someone more into this could double check this?
Got some news on this from PocketTorch, the makers of AquaCalendar. They already use native Symbian categories. For syncing them with Outlook, they offer AquaSync.
Hi everybody,
We finally have a solution for the elusive category syncing between Outlook and your S60 phone!
We are looking for beta testers to test this out, and I know many of you out there were waiting for this.
It is not our original solution but one that we hope will be satisfactory to your category syncing needs.
To sign up for the beta please sign up here:
http://www.sbsh.net/assembly.php?id=...67ce51561d8702
Good to hear there is an attempt, but my God - it has taken two years to even come up with an attempt at this?
And in any case, shouldnt this be part of the core capability of the any S60 phone, rather than an add-on? Anyone who has a windows mobile phone has this capability, whether they use the built-in PM or 3rd party ones sucha s Pocket Informant. And they have had that capability for years.
One starts to see why Nokia's "business" division has not exactly done great, and been forced to go after mass market consumers....
skagen wrote:Good to hear there is an attempt, but my God - it has taken two years to even come up with an attempt at this?And in any case, shouldnt this be part of the core capability of the any S60 phone, rather than an add-on? Anyone who has a windows mobile phone has this capability, whether they use the built-in PM or 3rd party ones sucha s Pocket Informant. And they have had that capability for years.
One starts to see why Nokia's "business" division has not exactly done great, and been forced to go after mass market consumers....
Hi skagen,
Did you at least try our solution? 😊
skagen wrote:And in any case, shouldnt this be part of the core capability of the any S60 phone, rather than an add-on? Anyone who has a windows mobile phone has this capability, whether they use the built-in PM or 3rd party ones sucha s Pocket Informant. And they have had that capability for years.
You are quite right, it is a shame that the S60 calendar does not support categories, though S60 since Rel. 9.1 does. Try voting for calendar categories at
http://www.s60.com/life/application/wishlist/app/displayWishDetails.do?wishId=731&activeCat=7
m00gl3 wrote:Hi skagen,
Did you at least try our solution? 😊
Second it seems to require installing additonal plug-ins to Outlook as well as the phone, which seems more complicated that this should be.
Outlook supports categories. Symbian OS supports it. The syncing link supports it.
Why is this not a part of the basic functionality of the phone. Speaking for myself only, that is the only satisfacotry end point and the reason I raised this invitation. It was not a request to spend more money.
Hi Roy
I want to participate in this beta. But it seems like it's closed.
May I know if I can still participate ? When would it go into the product ? Thanks very much.
m00gl3 wrote:Hi everybody,
We finally have a solution for the elusive category syncing between Outlook and your S60 phone!We are looking for beta testers to test this out, and I know many of you out there were waiting for this.
It is not our original solution but one that we hope will be satisfactory to your category syncing needs.
To sign up for the beta please sign up here:
http://www.sbsh.net/assembly.php?id=...67ce51561d8702
Hi ! I'm new to Nokia phones. I previously used Windows Mobile which supports categories sync.
I really do need category synch for Outlook Task. From your comment below, does it mean that my N79 would support categories ? I don't seem to find it. Please help. Thanks very much.
abruenin wrote:You are quite right, it is a shame that the S60 calendar does not support categories, though S60 since Rel. 9.1 does. Try voting for calendar categories at
http://www.s60.com/life/application/wishlist/app/displayWishDetails.do?wishId=731&activeCat=7
I too am a new Nokia owner (5800), and desperately in need of the ability to synchronise Notes and Task categories with Outlook.
Has anyone tried the 3rd party software out there? I thought Roadsynch would do it, but there's no mention of Task Categories, and no mention at all of Notes.
I have a Palm Vx - a ten year-old device - which does all of this fine! I am stunned that it's not a standard feature, particularly as the Nokia marketing cr*p says that it 'synchs with Outlook'. Well it doesn't - not by any stretch of the word 'synch'.
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Can someone explain why S60 3rd phones do not sync the categories you have in Outlook, despite supporting categories within the phone itself? The built in PIM doesnt do sync it and neither do Acquacalendar nor Papyrus.
Is this yet another basic feature being "saved" for a feature pack or something?
Folks dont hold your breath - this thread is two years old. I have moved on to Windows Mobile instead. Nokia is clearly not serious about business users.