Bluetooth Internet with 6600

[jw]

My dongle is a Trust BT120 adapter (USB). As far as I know, it does not actually have a LAN access point profile, as it certainly doesn't show in the list of profiles (dial up networking, headset etc).

Cheers

[davidf]

Thanks j2k. A Trust BT120 USB dongle eh? Snap.
Hmm. So a 6600 can be made to work with gnubox and a USB dongle then.

I guess I'd better go and have another look at my PC settings cos I've tried and failed with this setup thus far. Did you follow Mike Raento's instructions for setting this up or did you figure it out yourself?

Cheers, David

Originally Posted by davidf

Similar question to my post above... which make/model of dongle are you using? The reason I ask is this...

The bluegiga newsserver had a message saying that to work with their free/demo OfficeAgent s/w you need an access point providing the "LAN Access Point profile with the LAN Access Point role. Typically PC dongles and similar devices only provide the Data Terminal (DT) role... To my understanding some dongles have the possibility to acts as LAN Access Points and with these the Office Agent should work just fine." (Hence my question about which dongle you have).

Now I'm unclear as to whether these profile/role issues are relevent when using the gnubox approach - so perhaps that's a red herring in this scenario. Maybe someone can educate me. In case it isn't clear: I'm happy to go with gnubox or OfficeAgent - whatever works for me!

Cheers, David

For the OfficeAgent application you need the Dial-Up Networking Profile. The Red-M access point I use has both, LAN Access Profile and Dial-Up Networking Profile.

The LAN Access Profile is available for most Bluetooth dongles, but with no use for phones. For the TDK USB BT Dongle, with Widcomm drivers, it creates even a Bluetooth Access Server virtual network adapter, which you can use to perform Internet Connection Sharing with your main connection. This is not useful though for OfficeAgent, nor for gnubox.

gnubox uses a standard serial port profile and PPP conectivity over it. It's like connecting two computers using a serial (RS-232) cable.

OfficeAgent uses the Dial-Up Networking Profile, which is equivalent to using a "modem" on another system (the BT access point) over Bluetooth. Think of using the phone as a modem... the situation is exactly the opposite - the phone uses the other device as a modem. Of course, within the BT access point the modem is virtual, so, as soon as you dial any number, it authenticates you and routes the connection to the LAN.

I hope this clarifies how things work.

[joolsvern]

i have a belkin which has dial up and I cant get it working - SO STUPID AM I.

[jw]

Originally Posted by davidf

Thanks j2k. A Trust BT120 USB dongle eh? Snap.
Hmm. So a 6600 can be made to work with gnubox and a USB dongle then.

I guess I'd better go and have another look at my PC settings cos I've tried and failed with this setup thus far. Did you follow Mike Raento's instructions for setting this up or did you figure it out yourself?

Cheers, David

Hi,

I followed the instructions posted here: http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/mraento/symbian/bt-ap.html

If you're still really stuck, you can add me to MSN and I'll try to guide you through what I did.

Cheers

how would i go about connecting my laptop to the internet using nokia 6600 AND infared???

[N/A]

On the PC, configure an infrared modem and use the 6600 as one.

Dial up to your ISP, or if you have a GPRS Internet plan, then dial *99#.

[Sofadoof]

Originally Posted by j2k

Hi,

I followed the instructions posted here: http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/mraento/symbian/bt-ap.html

If you're still really stuck, you can add me to MSN and I'll try to guide you through what I did.

Cheers

Well, I'm stuck. (so I've added you on MSN).

This are the problems I have run into so far using the following instructions:http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/mraento/symbian/bt-ap.html

My bluetooth device is an MSI PC2PC (BTOes) USB device.

Problem:
1. Set up an Incoming Connection for Bluetooth as described by Troy Fontaine.
1.1 Step 2 of this tutorial is: "Go into Client Applications in the configuration software, and delete Bluetooth Serial Port." Well, I can't delete it. The "remove" button is grey'ed out.

2. Section: On the phone->Use the following settings for it:
2.1
"Gateway IP Address: 169.254.1.68"
There is no option anywhere to set the gateway address. I know this is possible on the 7650, but I have never seen it on the 6600.
2.2
"Username: a username that can log in on your Windows box"
No option anywhere to enter a second username (the first beeing RasUser)

So, I'm basically missing some configurations. However, I proceeded with the instructions. Phone->gnubox->2box Direct->Bluetooth.
The "the bgcolor of the gnubox information text goes blue".

I now try to connect with the Bt connection in Opera. The bluetooth trayicon goes green (meaning there's action)....and nothing happens. Opera reports that there was an error connection.

Any help would be GREATLY apprechiated!

By the way...i think I might know what the problem might be (other than the fact that I haven't been able to enter some data since there's been no where to enter it). Under local services of my bluetooth device, the bluetooth serial connection is set to com port 7. Under Network Connections->incomming connections the option selected says: "Communicationcable between 2 machines (COM 8)." COM 8 is assigned CLIENT applications->bluetooth serial port. (the one I could not delete).

UPDATE: I have now managed to delete Client applications->bluetooth serial port (COM8)...so I'm testing again.

[twinkerz]

Juz wanted to share how i did it, hope this works...

ok... so far i only manage to get 6600 to surf net but not connect to icq or msn thru agilemessenger... the following should work for win2k or winXP or any other machine...

1. Download proxy from www.analogx.com and install it, just setup everything using default, and run it thru start -->programs-->analogx-->proxy-->proxy

2. Determine which COM port your bluetooth is using by right-clicking on your bluetooth tray icon (where the time is displayed) and select Advance Configuration, then go to Local Services tab, EVERYTHING in there EXCEPT Bluetooth Serial Port should be made manual. i.e, ONLY Bluetooth Serial Port is automatic startup, and make sure that Secure Connection is not required. Do take note of the COM port in use, for me, mine is COM9.

3. Next, goto Control Panel -->Phone and Modem Options -->Modem(tabs) and do a ADD, remember to check Don't detect my modem;I will select it from List. and click next. Out pops a window, under manufacturers, select [Standard Modem Types], under Models select [Communications cable between two computers], click NEXT, selected ports should now point to the COM port you have found in step 2. For mi, i choose COM9. Then next next next till you are done. You will see an entry in the Modem(tab). Double-click on the Communication cable between two computers, and set maximum port speed to 115200.

4. Now right-click on your network neighbourhood, Make New Connection. Choose Accept Incoming Connections, Check the Communication cable between two computers(COM9-->again my own port no), click next, select Do not allow virtual private network connections and under users allowed to connect, to make things simple, juz check everything.. heehee.. next again, double-click on Internet Protocol, make sure the Allow callers to access my local area network is CHECKED, Specify TCP/IP Addresses from 10.0.0.1 to 10.0.0.254. Click OK, then click next, then click Finish.

ok, we're done for the setting up on our pc portion... 6600 portion coming right up..

[twinkerz]

6600 setup..

1. install the gnubox into your 6600 (fone memory or card is up to individual's preference)
2. go to tools-->settings-->connection-->access points-->options-->new access point-->use default settings. Ensure that the connection name=Bt, data bearer=High speed (GSM), dial-up number=any 3 digit, user name = a valid username in your pc, in my case, demouser1, prompt password=No, Password= (password for demouser1), Authentication=normal, Homepage=none, Data call type=Analogue, Maximum data speed=Automatic
3. Then select options-->Advance settings. Phone IP Address=Automatic, Primary Name server=0.0.0.0, Second.name server=0.0.0.0, Proxy serv.address (your pc's ip address, which can be gotten by start-->run-->command prompt-->ipconfig), proxy port number=6588 (the port used by analogx proxy server),Use callback=No, callback type=use server no., callback number=none,user PPP compression=YES,use login script=YES, Login Script=(Pls follow instruction in http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/mraento/symbian/bt-ap.html EXACTLY),Modem initialisation=None. Then back back back till you get back to your main menu.

4. What i have found out is, you need to pair up your 6600 with your bluetooth dongle, and set it as authorized. After that, launch gnubox-->options-->2box Direct-->Infrared (Stay with me here.. important step). then options-->2box Direct-->Bluetooth-->select your pc. Then press on your menu button, and fireup your browser, mayb say Doris browser.

5. in Doris Browser, go to options-->preference-->proxy IP Address =(your pc ip),
proxy port=6588, the rest of the options set as default.

6. then try to go to a url, mayb say www.google.com or whichever you prefer... and happy surfing

Many thanks to Mika Raento for his instructions and findings, he is the one who made this possible.

[sick_7650]

tks a lot twinkerz, worked for me at last!

In the modem part for computers, my bluetooth COM port isn't shopwing up. It's COM3. I'm running WInXP with a IOGear USB bluetooth dongle.

[Rafe]

Twinkerz - Do you mind if I use your post as a basis to write something up at some point (probably to go in the supprt section here or as a feature). Obviously will credit you and the original source, but it just might get more attention and would be easier for other to find and link to.

Rafe

Hallo!
First of all, thanks for the great forum, I found many usefull tips here

Now i want to use my pc's dsl-internet connection for my 6600 and so I followed this manual http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/mraento/symbian/bt-ap.html
I should add that I'm well into computers but am a comlete newbee in terms of networking. I managed to get a communication cable connection and I can see the 'user' logged in in the network control window. But thats it, as soon as this connection is established my phone (opera) brings up an error message (Connection to server couldn't be established). Since my bluetooth connection seems to work, I guess it has something to do with NAT and the Internet relaying. The manual says:

netsh routing ip nat install
netsh routing ip nat add interface "YOUR LAN INTERFACE NAME" full
netsh routing ip nat add interface Internal private

What am I doing here? I've no idea what these parameters are for. How can I reverse them in case I did something wrong? Where can I see what is routet where?
What is 'MY LAN INTERFACE NAME'? I use a lan-network adapter for my dsl connection, in the network control window it is seen under lan&highspeedinternet as 'LAN-Connection'. Is this the name I have to insert?
What is 'internal private'? Where can I found the name I have to use? I tried 'Internal private', which resulted in an error message. Then I guessed 'intern' and it seems to work. Is this correct?
What else can be wrong?


Reading my own post, I'm afraid I sound really stupid. Usually I lough about ppl using commands and parameters without knowing what they are doing. This time it's me

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[twinkerz]

Originally Posted by Rafe

Twinkerz - Do you mind if I use your post as a basis to write something up at some point (probably to go in the supprt section here or as a feature). Obviously will credit you and the original source, but it just might get more attention and would be easier for other to find and link to.

Rafe

Not at all, posted the info for sharing purpose. without the article from the original poster.. this wouldn't have been made possible, so i dun tink i deserve all the credit

sorry for the late reply. been too busy to even come to this site..