A Beginner's Guide - First steps with the Nokia 5800 XpressMusic

[slitchfield]

Bought a Nokia 5800 XpressMusic? Before you do anything, read All About Symbian's guide to your first steps with the phone. Tzer2 has written the article with ordinary people in mind and tried to keep jargon to a minimum, but hopefully even advanced phone users should find something useful in it.

Read on in the full article.

Nice guide. I almost have bought Nokia 5800 but lucky Nokia launched N97 before 5800 available in shop, so I wait as I mostly prefer phones with keyboard or at least keypad

[macwhu]

great article I've been blogging my ongoing findings at

http://hello5800.tumblr.com

my next task is to attempt to move over purchases I made on my E71 in the nokia music store to the 5800, and use my free voucher. All hopefully without the aid of a pc.

wish me luck

[Yvar]

Great! I just bought a red 5800, it's now in the box and will be released from its prison this evening. I am very very curious, because I have never used a Symbian device, only Palm and WinMo smartphones. I know 'touch', but not Symbian, so it's going to be an adventure. Great article that applies 100% to me.

[tym79m]

I kind of like the notion, being promoted by Jonathan Greene and Ricky Cadden, of being prompted on a new handset for your Ovi/Nokia credentials, after operator setup, and once authenticated having contacts and appointments automatically populated from Ovi Sync, and other Ovi services (Share and Chat/Contacts on Ovi for example) automatically configured if you've already subscribed to them.

If you didn't already have an Ovi/Nokia account, you could be asked if you want to create one (with, of course, the option to not create one).

All from the handset.

Ref:

Symbian-guru.com - "ovi account needs to be integrated into the phone"
Atmasphere.net - "What we can learn from Android - looking at YOU Nokia!"

[Tzer2]

It's a good idea and you are already prompted to do something similar when accessing some services (for example the e-mail section of messaging, or share online). Promoting Ovi like that might cause problems with competition laws though, especially as Nokia has such a vast market share compared to its competitors.

If they did have auto-prompting it might be best if it offered to sync with a range of similar services, which is what it already does with the Share Online app (it has Ovi, Flickr and Vox with the option of adding more).

[tym79m]

Originally Posted by Tzer2

Promoting Ovi like that might cause problems with competition laws though, especially as Nokia has such a vast market share compared to its competitors.

If they did have auto-prompting it might be best if it offered to sync with a range of similar services, which is what it already does with the Share Online app (it has Ovi, Flickr and Vox with the option of adding more).

Perhaps, yes, though Google's Android (at least T-Mobile's version) does a similar thing with Google's services on initial startup.

[Tzer2]

I thought Android was meant to be a neutral platform, rather than a way to advertise Google's services?

After all, S60 doesn't advertise Nokia's services when it's on non-Nokia phones...

[tonyn]

Originally Posted by Tzer2

I thought Android was meant to be a neutral platform, rather than a way to advertise Google's services?

Android is open source so if you want to take what has been released so far, write/buy add device drivers for your chosen hardware, etc... you can make a Yahoo! or Microsoft Live phone with it if you really want to.

However if you want to any support, e.g. marketing dollars, joint press releases or just using the Google logo in your promotional material, then dropping Google's services from your device seems unlikely to make you many friends in the Googleplex! (Just an observation from living in a capitalist regime.)

[bartmanekul]

And the step missing from the list?

Check to make sure you dont have a model thats got a gap in it.

Top right corner, on the side where the front and back join.

Mine was very snug, but after a week of use, its showing a gap like many others.

"Top right corner, on the side where the front and back join. "

This is caused by the stylus getting the wrong side of the catch that holds it in. Take the back off and bend the tiny piece of metal up a bit so the Stylus doesn't slide over and push the back out.

I had to show the Carphone Warehouse staff how to do this.

This phone is amazing, surpassed all my expectations, I only bought it to try it out, already I think it will be my main carry.

One thing that is really special about it, something very fundamental, it gets 4 bars of signal in places where my N95 was getting one or none. And its' small and light enough to pocket, unlike the Cupertino flagstone.

[bartmanekul]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

"Top right corner, on the side where the front and back join. "

This is caused by the stylus getting the wrong side of the catch that holds it in. Take the back off and bend the tiny piece of metal up a bit so the Stylus doesn't slide over and push the back out.

I had to show the Carphone Warehouse staff how to do this.

I'll try that, but Im almost certain thats not the problem. Others have taken it apart and found theres no catch anywhere near that point. It looks like its just coming apart.

Edit: Thats far away from the actual problem, and would not affect it. I cant see how the clip you mention could be out of place unless it was seriously bent.

[macwhu]

Sadly the 5800 doesn't support ovi contacts syncing - it was the first thing i tried.
after the positive set up on google/iphone. Though I had to get spanning sync to make my actual contacts / calendar work with google.

The 5800 feels like a testing ground for the 5th edition, with less demanding users - which is a wise strategy. It certainly the fastest S60 device I've used.

[Tzer2]

I think the 5800 is definitely trying a lot of things out, as you'd expect from the first device of a new generation.

But it is also an extremely low price for what you're getting, half the price of most other touchphones. It's a good value package and I suspect it will be the best-selling Symbian device of 2009.

Power users might want to wait for the N97 though, and of course there will be more S60v5 models after that.

I think auto Ovi setup would be a smart idea.

Is it true that the 5800 cannot sync with Ovi? Does it not support SyncML?