| 26-06-2009 12:33 PM |
| on the fence |
I got my first hands-on of the N97 recently and almost paid on the spot. Who knows maybe this weekend. Could someone tell me what sort of performance gains, in terms of RAM optimisations, I can reasonably expect with newer firmwares. I am quite concerned with the small amount of free ram available even when there are no active widgets or programs in use. Have owners noticed slowdown because of number of active widgets on the home screen? how long does it take to get used to the slider action for me it was more easy to open the keyboard with my left hand, I currently use the classic slider.
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| 26-06-2009 01:14 AM |
| viipottaja |
And isn't one of the "apologists" quite heavily involved in AllAboutiPhone, and has a lot of time stated the many good things about iPhone?
He seems to be apologizing left and right and up and down the place! 
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| 25-06-2009 11:53 PM |
| RogerPodacter |
Arthur, you come to a site called "all about symbian", what the hell do you think of course the owners are partial to symbian. You sound pretty silly expecting anything otherwise! Of course they like symbian!
And to be quite honest they do a dam good job of still being objective with their reviews even in spite of their loyalty. It seems the opposite with you, all you can do is bash s60 with no objectivity giving it credit where it is due. And you're always predictable negative comments are quite mundane. We get it.
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| 25-06-2009 03:23 PM |
| Lord Dextro |
Well that was certainly an intelligently stated rebuke. Well said!
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| 25-06-2009 01:32 PM |
| Ewan |
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Originally Posted by Arthur
The three AAS guys in my opinion are. I have owned nothing but Nokia phones. I don't have any Apple products nor am I interested in them.
It is my right to say that N97 is a colossal failure. But who am I to talk? Read the majority of reviews and you will start to get the picture. Can they all be wrong?
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Arthur yoru commetns are always noted, but let me address that last point by pointing out a multitude of consumer electronic devices that have been deried in print and turned out really nice, and countless others that have glowing reviews and been rubbish in use. I could list some but I'm sure people will see whatever bias you wish to see in any list I make.
And I've been in this game long enough to be called a fanboy on many issues. With a site called All About *Symbian* I'm sure listeners will be able to listen to the cast and realise where we stand. But I do think there's a long way between "people who like the products" and "apologists" so I'd refute the "here come the apologists" line as being far from a reasoned statement.
;-)
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| 25-06-2009 01:32 PM |
| Unregistered |
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthur
You really don't grasp it do you? The difference is I am NOT a fan boy of Apple or, for that matter, of any manufacturer. The three AAS guys in my opinion are. I have owned nothing but Nokia phones. I don't have any Apple products nor am I interested in them.
It is my right to say that N97 is a colossal failure. But who am I to talk? Read the majority of reviews and you will start to get the picture. Can they all be wrong?
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Yes I know you're not an 'Apple fanboy', that's been very obvious for a long time. And yes you have a right to call the N97 a "COLLOSAL FAILURE". But what right do you have in calling others 'Nokia Apologists' or 'Nokia Employee'? It's their right if they decide they like the N97. I for one don't like it but I don't go around insulting others who do. You're not the only "POWER USER" around here.
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| 25-06-2009 12:18 PM |
| Arthur |
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered
And here comes Arthur! Forever whining about everything. 'Nokia apoligist' eh? Funny how he doesnt like people labeling others 'apple fanboys' yet he goes around labeling people whatever the hell he fancies.
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You really don't grasp it do you? The difference is I am NOT a fan boy of Apple or, for that matter, of any manufacturer. The three AAS guys in my opinion are. I have owned nothing but Nokia phones. I don't have any Apple products nor am I interested in them.
It is my right to say that N97 is a colossal failure. But who am I to talk? Read the majority of reviews and you will start to get the picture. Can they all be wrong?
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| 25-06-2009 10:11 AM |
| celios |
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthur
Here come the three musketeers, the Nokia apologists.
Of course they fail to mention that it's not only Fry that is critical of the N97. How about all the countless other "non fan boy" reviews ?
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If you don't like it, don't buy it Arthur! But for pity's sake, stop telling everyone else how much you don't like it, and content yourself with waiting for your precious internet tablet. 
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| 25-06-2009 03:29 AM |
| Unregistered |
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arthur
Here come the three musketeers, the Nokia apologists.
Of course they fail to mention that it's not only Fry that is critical of the N97. How about all the countless other "non fan boy" reviews ?
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And here comes Arthur! Forever whining about everything. 'Nokia apoligist' eh? Funny how he doesnt like people labeling others 'apple fanboys' yet he goes around labeling people whatever the hell he fancies.
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| 24-06-2009 11:48 PM |
| Unregistered |
Nokia N97 Woes: Contacts: Not Enough Memory!!! (it has 32Gb!)
I've just bought an N97 - upgrade for me from E61i.
I have 4200+ contacts.
This phone, with 32M RAM firstly cannot sync all the contacts (gets to 3000+) and fails (not enough memory), and then when you try to run ANY application - including Nokia messaging - the phone keeps hanging with the not enough memory error - close some applications and try again.
It seems our Symbian friends have not stayed in sync with the hardware designers - yes it has 32G memory, but only a small amount addressable by the Contacts application.
Logged a support call with Nokia - no sensible answer - at all.
I was about to buy an iPhone 3Gs - but love the bullet proof phone capabilities of Nokia - however, when I arrive back in London on Friday, the N97 goes back to Nokia and i'm buying an iPhone from an unlocked country!
Unless anyone has a work-around...
Ta
Mike
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| 24-06-2009 10:42 PM |
| brendan |
just wanted to say that i really enjoy listening to the podcasts - thanks!
even though I haven't owned a nokia phone since my n95/e90 days i still really enjoy the site.
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| 24-06-2009 08:11 PM |
| RogerPodacter |
Thank you guys for bringing up the topic of all this "s60v5 touch is outdated and rubbish" that i hear everywhere. i just dont agree with those viewpoints. personally i find 5th edition very usable and i honestly prefer the way the OS functions. the ONLY thing i do agree with is the scrolling thru long lists. sure they can and they WILL implement kinetic scrolling (we all saw the video of the newest touch s60v5 phone with kinetic scrolling).
when i use my roommates iphone i actually feel like the OS is too "static", or just not dynamic. err i dunno how to quantify what i'm saying. but the double tap in s60v5 i find useful. often times i look thru my music library, and might single tap a song as i'm sitting deciding what to play. or sometimes you might want to single click something and perform another option, like send it to someone or change a setting. quite frankly i think nokia struck the perfect balance with this thru the entire OS. single click for all apps and menus, and double clicks in long lists.
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| 24-06-2009 07:47 PM |
| rvirga |
The iPhone is not based on Linux!
It's based on Mach BSD, that is BSD running on top of a Mach kernel.
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| 24-06-2009 06:05 PM |
| Arthur |
Here come the three musketeers, the Nokia apologists.
Of course they fail to mention that it's not only Fry that is critical of the N97. How about all the countless other "non fan boy" reviews ?
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| 24-06-2009 04:03 PM |
| slitchfield |
Sander - I thought I said that Mac OS X was built on "Unix"? I know Linux is much more recent etc.
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