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| 05-10-2009 03:41 PM |
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Originally Posted by tramfan
I have had the N86 for about two weeks. The shutter sound and focus sound can be disabled in any profile by turning the warning tones off. The silent profile as supplied already has the warning tones turned off. Silent mode can be activated by holding down the hash # key.
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Can any body conform what tramfan claims. Pl. any body help, coz I m seriously thinking to buy N86. Otherwise (if the sounds in N86 can't be silenced) then somebody pl. suggest an alternative Brand/Model 8 MP phone where these sounds can be stopped. What about in Sony Ericsson C905?
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| 14-08-2009 09:32 PM |
| tramfan |
I have had the N86 for about two weeks. The shutter sound and focus sound can be disabled in any profile by turning the warning tones off. The silent profile as supplied already has the warning tones turned off. Silent mode can be activated by holding down the hash # key.
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| 15-06-2009 08:49 AM |
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Originally Posted by Hirudin
I don't know if this works on all Nokia phones, but on the N95-3 you can switch between Normal and Silent modes by holding the # (pound) key. Switching to Silent does indeed turn off the shutter sound when taking pictures.
There's some kind of hack out there that lets you get into the protected portion of the memory on some Nokia phones. I haven't tried it, but I guess it lets you change settings that would normally not be accessible. It also lets you access files that normally don't show up (like text messages I guess).
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Judging by some of the experiences others are having, I'd say that the newer the firmware, the less likely the silent or 'turning off warning tones' is to work. If they ever come out with another firmware update for the N95-3, I'd be willing to bet the shutter sounds even in silent mode. An added Nokia bonus - beware of updating firmware, unlike other companies, Nokia phones seem to get worse with every update.
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| 14-06-2009 02:52 PM |
| Hirudin |
I don't know if this works on all Nokia phones, but on the N95-3 you can switch between Normal and Silent modes by holding the # (pound) key. Switching to Silent does indeed turn off the shutter sound when taking pictures.
There's some kind of hack out there that lets you get into the protected portion of the memory on some Nokia phones. I haven't tried it, but I guess it lets you change settings that would normally not be accessible. It also lets you access files that normally don't show up (like text messages I guess).
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| 12-06-2009 12:54 PM |
| unregistered |
my shutter sound cant be deactivated even on silent mood and with 'warning tones' off.
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| 12-06-2009 08:11 AM |
| malerocks |
Can anyone who has the n86 confirm that setting the phone to silent deactivates the shutter sound?
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| 12-06-2009 07:25 AM |
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5800xm silent mode has no shutter noise. The flash LEDs light red for about 200ms instead.
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| 12-06-2009 07:08 AM |
| mcpezza |
"Silent" profile on the N95 8Gb stops the shutter sound.
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| 12-06-2009 05:34 AM |
| ashu |
Silent mode slicences the camera sound??? This is the first time I have heard of it!!
I use Nokia N79 and there is no way you can silent the shutter sound. I know some guys have done it but then they have hacked it. I only wish, I knew how to hack into my system files and silent that darn thing
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| 12-06-2009 03:00 AM |
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Isn't the solution to the annoying shutter noises a hack? That's what I'd like to see. I'm not a programmer, but how hard can it be? One line of code?
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| 11-06-2009 10:46 AM |
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
Silent mode on my Nokia is two buttons (power button briefly then profile selection). Then there is no noise at all when taking a photo. The LED flash still illuminates red briefly though.
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Just curious, what phone do you use? Silent mode on the E-71 unfortunately has no effect on camera shutter sounds. I suspect it's an E-series vs N-series thing, but really don't have access to any other phones to be sure.
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
I wonder what people did before silent cameras. A Leica M6 with a cloth shutter was supposed to be the discrete candid weapon but it still made noise. A modern DSLR still has mirror flap noise and AF whirr.
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Fair point; old film and dedicated cameras do have the advantage of being able to take shots at a distance where sound is not an obstacle though. I also wouldn't compare the natural sound of a mechanical shutter to the artificial, high pitched, poorly designed, and incredibly loud (at least on my E71) shutter sounds that Nokia forces - without access to a dB meter, my friend and I subjectively felt my E71 was at very least twice as loud as his iPhone shutter sound. As much as I hate all sounds on camera shutters, Nokia's are especially egregious for being so awful. At a minimum, could they not afford a sound engineer?
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
If people are really seriously into photography that these details need addressing, then I would suggest that a tiny CCD sensor behind a plastic fixed lens followed by aggressive .jpg processing is probably not the tool they are looking for. A camera might be a better option, along with a pile of release forms.
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Well, I guess it depends on your definition of "seriously into photography." I think the best camera is the one you have on you - and the more camera-like my phone gets, the happier I am. To me, being able to get great shots of friends at BBQ's, birthday parties, travel photos (and yes, museum visits while traveling), etc is something I'd buy a good camera phone for, and something that's hindered by the forced focus and shutter sounds.
I don't think there has to be a certain quality of camera phone that needs to be met before manufacturers like Nokia provide a more camera-like experience (ie, glass removable lens + raw should not be pre-requirements for being able to use your phone as a camera without artificial and senseless limitations being imposed)
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| 11-06-2009 10:28 AM |
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i got the N86 for a couple of days already. I think it is the most beautiful Nseries phone to day: the front is line a dark gemstone framed by a dark metallic rim; the back has a soft 'talcum' like cover that is similar to the N95 classic's. The slide is fine but can be better -- wish it could be as sharp as the E66's slide.
The soft keys are good and the Dpad is fantastic -- one of the best from Nokia. It is interesting that i cannot really see the Confirm key but yet the press feels so right. The number pad is good by N series standards (read: N79/N85/96) and is almost as good as N95 in terms of travel. In its favour is that the buttons are distinctly separated.
My big gripe: to remove the microsd card, you need to remove the back cover. And removing the back cover is just a pain: there is no release button like on N79/N85 but you have pry it open like some cheap phone.
Camera: the wide angle lens is great!
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| 11-06-2009 10:23 AM |
| malerocks |
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
Oh, I know. I really, really want to like Nokia and I'm very tempted by the N86, that doesn't mean I can't get very frustrated and disappointed when I see them doing things that make it harder to be proud about owning a Nokia.
Even with all the things I hate about Nokia, like the abused girlfriend, I keep going back for more - but there'll be a point where I give up - but I still want to hope Nokia gets it's s**t together before I reach that point.
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I know what you are talking about man and I do agree with you on this one. Fortunately, all markets today are such that it is the customers that determine which companies work and what works. And people are more willing to shift loyalties. Nokia is stubborn today because they have the largest market share. Once they start losing customers to better phones been offered by others (may take time to happen, but will happen.), they will definitely have to get their a** straightened up and bring about some major changes.
Just look at the lovely phones offered by others - the Samsung i8910 and the SE Satio. More will come. Everyone wants business. Either Nokia will have to straighten up or we simply shift to these guys for good (and satisfactory) phones... Cheers to that!!! 
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| 11-06-2009 10:06 AM |
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Silent mode on my Nokia is two buttons (power button briefly then profile selection). Then there is no noise at all when taking a photo. The LED flash still illuminates red briefly though.
I wonder what people did before silent cameras. A Leica M6 with a cloth shutter was supposed to be the discrete candid weapon but it still made noise. A modern DSLR still has mirror flap noise and AF whirr.
If people are really seriously into photography that these details need addressing, then I would suggest that a tiny CCD sensor behind a plastic fixed lens followed by aggressive .jpg processing is probably not the tool they are looking for. A camera might be a better option, along with a pile of release forms.
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| 11-06-2009 09:49 AM |
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Please explain to me how a shutter sound indicating that a snap has been clicked "cripples" your device? Do your photos come out bad because of it? Does the screen blank out? Are you not able to do some specific task on your phone? HOW?
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Sure. It makes it virtually impossible to take candid shots of people. The sounds are early enough (seriously, a focus sound?!) that trying to get candid shots of friends ends up with them looking directly at the camera (often with the odd facial expression) instead of natural shots of people engaging in whatever activity they were engaging in. BTW, if you do manage to get that one candid shot off, you sure as hell aren't getting any more after the first one - and that goes for anybody within earshot range. It's also really hard to use a loud camera in certain situations - it sucks really hard in museums and even in restaurants.
Neither of those may matter to you, but they sure suck for me.
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Plus all manufacturers have that shutter sound on their phones. AND all standalone cameras (except the professional ones) have it too. Dont go about blaming just Nokia for it. Everybody's to blame!!!
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Maybe, still waiting to see if the SE Satio lets you turn it off. Hoping for the best. The iPhone doesn't have the shutter sound in silent mode - a quick flip of a switch - and even when active is much, much more quiet and can even be easily muffled by just covering the speaker. I'm waiting to see how quality improves on the new version to see if that's even a viable alternative as a good camera phone.
BTW, the E71-2 did not have these sounds forced upon me when I bought it - they stuck them in a firmware update, else I probably would have returned it. Also, I've never in my life owned a point and shoot - and I've owned just under a dozen - that forced a camera shutter sound without the option to turn it off.
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So whose forcing you to buy Nokia phones? I have my complaints with Nokia too, but I can always (believe me you can too!!!) switch over to any other manufacturer that satisfies my needs.
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Oh, I know. I really, really want to like Nokia and I'm very tempted by the N86, that doesn't mean I can't get very frustrated and disappointed when I see them doing things that make it harder to be proud about owning a Nokia.
I've had at least a dozen arguments w/ all my iPhone carrying friends where I point out all the good things Nokia has an edge up on Apple over - consideration for their customers is not one of those things. I know that if I get an iPhone, it gets better over time - great upgrades, really easy customer service, really useful and mostly free apps - I would love for that to be true of Nokia too and wish that Nokia cared enough about its customers to even provide some sort of feedback mechanism.
Even with all the things I hate about Nokia, like the abused girlfriend, I keep going back for more - but there'll be a point where I give up - but I still want to hope Nokia gets it's s**t together before I reach that point.
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