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| 15-11-2008 04:10 PM |
| emerher |
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Originally Posted by N/A
For that there's menu > Tools > Settings > General > Date and time > Network operator time > On.
This from a N95 8GB.
The network time support has been in all phones for many, many years. Some networks might still not support it, though (might not provide the time at all, or they provide the wrong time).
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thanks but i've been using this option since i got my n95;-) yet it somehow is not supported by vodafone germany...
couldn't the mobile just be synched like a radio controlled clock? this little implementation would be really nice because it would be operator-independent
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| 14-11-2008 07:46 AM |
| N/A |
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Originally Posted by emerher
[BTW I never understood why the time in mobiles could not be synched with a cell tower]
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For that there's menu > Tools > Settings > General > Date and time > Network operator time > On.
This from a N95 8GB.
The network time support has been in all phones for many, many years. Some networks might still not support it, though (might not provide the time at all, or they provide the wrong time).
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| 14-11-2008 03:17 AM |
| Unregistered |
secondary camera
i don't care about the rest, but i'd like it if they kept the secondary front camera around.
the only reason its not used so much is coz 3g is still so damn expensive in most places especially americas... otherwise i would've been using it day/night for video calls.
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| 13-11-2008 10:17 PM |
| emerher |
You forgot to mention something that noone ever uses or never has used: the cell broadcast function in the messaging application. If this cell broadcast was used properly by any operator, it could be quite useful (e.g. latest newsfeeds without the need of going online, time synching [BTW I never understood why the time in mobiles could not be synched with a cell tower], maybe even advertising) but as it seems, no operator cares.
Maybe you should also write an article about the functions that were removed in newer phones; why has e.g. the wallet app been removed? Instead, we got a bunch of useless apps such as "activation keys" or "chat" which are never used anyway
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| 13-11-2008 09:57 AM |
| Unregistered |
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
Please lets ignore ALL comments from people who say "I just want my phone to be a phone, I don't want all this camera/GPS/internet/etc [delete as appropriate] nonsense!". This is just sheer idiocy. I don't want my car to have the features of a space shuttle, but a.) I still see some people would want a space shuttle and b.) No one's making me go and buy a space shuttle.
If you don't want a feature on a phone, DON'T BUY A PHONE WITH THAT FEATURE ON ! (Duh).
Thank you.
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This has to win stupid post of the year by a good distance.
Unless the poster can name the phones that come with discrete features only.
PS, NASA are retiring the space shuttle in 2010. Seems even they don't need one.
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| 13-11-2008 09:15 AM |
| Unplugged |
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Originally Posted by Mark_au
Video call is VERY good if you happen to be out of town. It gives new meaning to phone sex with your partner.
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Yes but at 50p per minute ill stick to 30s videos that cost nothing to send. Video Calling doesent get used because it comes at such a highly insane cost.
All the UK Networks originally had it coming out of your free/inclusive minutes and being a gimmick thing people used it to try it. Then they ended thier promotions the mooing began and they put outrageously high charges to use it so nobody does.
If I get a video call its nearly always in an inconveniate time when im getting out of the car etc and I don't particually want the caller to see my work swept face so you end up "arranging" video calls which beats the whole point of calling someone.
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| 13-11-2008 01:27 AM |
| Tzer2 |
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Most of my gripes about unnecessary gubbins relate to the OS and UI.
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Just to make clear, this isn't meant to be a "what's wrong with S60" article.
This article is actually about mobile phones in general, regarding features which used to serve a purpose but are now no longer useful. Even Visual Radio isn't an S60 topic really, it's available on cheap Series 40 models too and is platform independent.
Discussing which apps belong in S60 is something for a totally different article, and I think it's been covered quite a lot on AAS anyway.
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mainly the fact that USB ampere is too low to be really "decent" in charging anything (you cannot fast charge through USB in comparison to a proper dedicated charger). Yes its good to have a standard "one size fits all", but
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Actually you CAN use a dedicated charger with USB ports, the phone I mentioned in the article (the 8600 Luna) comes with a standard Nokia charger that has a microUSB plug on the end instead of the usual 2mm plug. Here's a photo of it:
If you switch to USB charging, you could charge through a computer or a normal mains socket, you would have the option of both. Without USB charging, people are forced to use mains sockets only.
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That feature is the camera, I work with many companies who have corporate policies against cameras due to security concerns and you'd be hard pressed to find a good and feature laden smart phone that doesn't have a camera and that includes the Nokia E-series phones.
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Most of the Eseries devices do come in non-camera versions for precisely the reasons you specify.
The E61 was only available without a camera, and the E60, E50 and E51 all have cameraless variants, so the devices are out there if people want to buy them.
The variants don't get advertised much though as they don't sell as well as the camera versions.
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(Wi-Fi video is a) Brilliant idea, amazed Nokia hasnt seen this yet.
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It is a really good idea, and Nokia do actually have it on their internet tablets, but officially it only works with Google Talk (and unofficially with Gizmo, but that's a tiny bit trickier to get working for the average user). Anyway, I've used it with GT and it is really great, I had some relatives in another country show me round their house which was pretty much the next best thing to being there. But alas it's only tablet-to-tablet, which severely limits its audience.
If they could put an easy to use wi-fi Skype video client on S60, including compatibility with Skype webcams on PCs and other devices, that would be a killer app right there. The hardware to use it would already be present on many many Nokia devices, all they'd have to do is offer it as a download and start integrating it into firmware.
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| 13-11-2008 12:21 AM |
| Mark_au |
Video call is VERY good if you happen to be out of town. It gives new meaning to phone sex with your partner.
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| 12-11-2008 07:37 PM |
| Unregistered |
Visual radio really belongs to a separate topic, one about useless software instead of physical features like other four. There are SO MANY bundled apps that I wish Nokia would just ditch already.
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| 12-11-2008 06:18 PM |
| neilhoskins |
@ Ricky:
1. Nah, I like 3D tones. I just had to change my ringtone yesterday because my PHB has bought an iPhoney and set it to one that was very similar to mine. So I chose a really freaky one and set it in 3D ringones to sound like it's in a forest. I'm such an ageing hippy.
2. Hell yes. And you can't get rid of them.
3. Yes, I use streaming RealPlayer links but I don't know what they're doing in Gallery; why not in 'Music'? I have all the BBC live radio feeds (not available in shoutcast atm) set up there, and NASA TV: sometimes I sit in bed watching a live feed of an astronaut fumbling around with a spanner - brilliant.
4. Aren't "sound clips" the ones that you make with "recorder" and "tracks" opens the music app?
Basically, the whole UI needs rationalising, but I didn't go into it in too much depth because the theme of Steve's feature was about old, redundant things. We could spend a week pointing out how S60 needs to be simplified and rationalised.
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| 12-11-2008 06:02 PM |
| Sergey Zak |
LifeBlog is best thing happened to Nokia software in years!
It's just terribly under-marketed. No box stickers, no online ads, no softbutton assignments for quick and direct access.
On PC: How can anyone deny a usefulness to see all the phone's content in one go? Even when the phone is lost (I mean the PC Lifeblog app)? Searchable? Backed-up? No?
On Phone: How can people endure thru tons of clicking to look up thru all new SMS first, then new calls, then new photos taken etc?
LifeBlog is also under-integrated.
Left out are Notes, Sound Recordings, Calls.
If it was developed further it would have been possible to fully backup, transplant, upload, maintain whole digital life of the phone, with help of a PC.
PC Suite vanes in comparison with such possibilities.
PC Lifeblog provides a way for two-way sync of media, for instance - many geeks still crave about that, unknowing.
Heck, this have become a part of Ovi, how can you people denounce it?  even if the removed on-the-phone app, the PC part and sync profiles would still be needed for Ovi Photos. And Photos is just a name change with more featuritis instead of tighter integration.
For more thoughts related pls see my blog http://cubeover.blogspot.com.
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| 12-11-2008 04:46 PM |
| rcadden |
If we're going to delve into the UI, There are a TON of things that need to be removed:
1. 3D tones
2. The default bookmarks in the browser (the folders). They're seldom filled with anything, and when they are, it's a single link (I've checked across multiple devices). Why put one link into a folder?
3. Streaming links in the Gallery - does anyone use this, and for what? With Nokia Internet Radio built-in to the newer phones, and Mobbler available, what on earth is this for?
4. What's the difference in 'Music Tracks' and 'Sound Clips'?
just to name a few
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| 12-11-2008 04:01 PM |
| Unregistered |
How about features you CANNOT have
This is certainly an interesting discussion on features of a phone but one factor that is rarely addressed is the problem with one feature that many enterprise users CANNOT have and the fact that there aren't many smart phones designs that are sensitive to that.
That feature is the camera, I work with many companies who have corporate policies against cameras due to security concerns and you'd be hard pressed to find a good and feature laden smart phone that doesn't have a camera and that includes the Nokia E-series phones. Even the "venerable" enterprise mainstay Blackberry's now all have cameras!
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| 12-11-2008 03:58 PM |
| carrotmadman6 |
Remove IR?
Have you never used IrRemote? That's so incredibly useful!!! 
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| 12-11-2008 02:57 PM |
| neilhoskins |
Most of my gripes about unnecessary gubbins relate to the OS and UI.
I've never really figured out what that IM app is doing there, because I've never managed to set it up for any of the common IM services, which all seem to have their own mobile clients anyway. Then, of course, there's the ones that could be good but aren't implemented in most countries, like PTT. The GSM interactive services are also expensive old hat; I don't know anybody who uses them, and certainly not on a smartphone where there are better alternatives, so what's it doing there in S60? "My Nokia" was also half-baked from the very start but can't be uninstalled. And yes, Lifeblog was somebody's 'two-point-oh' wet dream and should be removed. I once looked at that 'Presentations' thing that's in Gallery; it seems to be a clever idea but I've never once actually come across standalone .svg files, except as examples; shouldn't it be (/isn't it) just part of the browser?
The general clutter and confusion of S60 is one thing I can't and won't defend from criticism by iPhone fanboys.
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