Originally Posted by bartmanekul

I am not protective, I simply think Symbian is here to stay. Its had a huge boom, and the fact it might be entering a downturn doesn't make me think its 'had its run'.

I still think that comment is bordering on the stupid, since Symbian is the OS used by the company with the biggest market share in mobile phones. And a few others.

So what about SE (who are not doing wonderfully at the moment I understand)?

What about samsung?

Lets wait for the next set of results, but its going to take a lot more than just falling figures to convince me its on the way out.

Perhaps the fall of Nokia?

Originally Posted by jpilomia

Hi all,

There will be two webinar sessions tomorrow hosted by Forum Nokia on S60 5th edition, the first at 9 a.m. London / 11 a.m. Helsinki / 4 p.m. Beijing - this one more technical - and another one at 11 a.m. San Francisco / 2 p.m. New York, this one with an introductory part. Good opportunity to check out what's new and get quick answers to your questions.

I'll also take on the EMEA (Helsinki) session with some news on the marketing side for those of you who join in. Information and registration at http://www.forum.nokia.com/main/tech.../webinars.html -> Oct. 16th.

See you there!

Originally Posted by bartmanekul

So symbian is not in decline, like you made out.

It merely has less growth.

In the current climbate I would be impressed if the next result shows it still increasing on last years sales.

For someone to say that symbian has 'run its course' when its still improving on previous years sales, and has the market share is quite baffling.

As for googling, I feel that if someone makes up silly, off the cuff claims, its them who should do the googling.

And even the results you turned up give no backing to your 'run the course' claim.

Originally Posted by bartmanekul

Perhaps you could supply the figures?

All I can find is that the sale of Nokia handsets going up by a fair amount, and retaining a large amount of the marketshare.

Originally Posted by bartmanekul

So you have used Andriod a lot then? On what device was this, and where?

Your comments have absolutly nothing to support them other than your guesses. Its the most prevailent smartphone OS and its suddenly run its course because you dont think it can scale up?




Duanting and expensive Nokia can do, they are a very large company with a lot of resources.

But your comparisions are laughable. How on earth can you say Symbian cannot match Android (which has not even been out in the wild for consumers yet) or OS X (which is only on one phone which has a LOT of features and functions missing)?

I think it would be wise to see what happens before making such sweeping, definate statements.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

It is no doubt that Symbian works, it has a very long feature list, and it's probably even the best smartphone OS available. But that was in 2007. Now with OS X and Android, Symbian looks pathetic in comparison. It has about run its course...

Originally Posted by Unregistered

It is daunting and expensive task for Nokia to merge S60, UIQ and MOAP into a cohesive platform running on top of Symbian and ship it for free next year. Even though Nokia has a slim chance of making Symbian Foundation successful but the underlying technology of the new Symbian will not be able to match that of Android or OS X. It may be better for Nokia to check out Android and leave Symbian as it is.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I guess you know it all, therefore you probably know that Symbian comes from Epoc32 and that Epoc32 supported already "internet tablets", with Psion.

And by the way, the Symbian Foundation, that's only couple months old, compared to the N770 that released in 2005...

In the end, Symbian is far from dying and it's still a pretty good operating system

Originally Posted by Unregistered

My question is why did Nokia wants to get into Linux at all if Symbian is so powerful? Aren't Linux and Symbian competiting OS for the mobile phones? Nokia could have focused on its Symbian Foundation to bring out an integrated and powerful OS for the future smartphones.

The truth is Nokia was forced to develop Maemo, an unrelated Linux distribution based on Debian, in order to deliver the company’s Internet Tablet simply because Symbian wasn’t up to the task!

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Guess you missed the point on Maemo and Trolltech.

Maemo was created by Nokia, based on a debian linux, to provide an alternative view on Mobile devices. It was R&D and from there came the Internet Tablets.

Trolltech, know as Qt since September 30th, doesn't provide "linux" software, it provides software development platforms and frameworks.

Maybe the reason Nokia bought Qt is that it provides Cross Platform application and UI framework.
Qt on windows, Qt on Mac, Qt on Linux...
How about Qt on Symbian?
Wouldn't that make sense?

I'd be surprised if that wouldn't bring quite a boost to Nokia's devices UI...