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07-06-2009 12:25 PM
Unregistered
Nokia 5800 v LG Viewty

Does anyone know how the Nokia 5800 stacks up against the LG Viewty?

I currenty own a Viewty but was thinking of replacing it with a 5800.
19-05-2009 09:06 PM
Unregistered
The best of the best

I have a nokia 5800XM and is gooood!!! size, battery life, screen, sensors, OS, the only thing that is not good at all is the ovi software that comes with the phone, I rather use it, I prefer to connect the phone directly and manage the files by myself, something that I love is the battery life awesome.
18-04-2009 06:01 PM
kool_john
nokia5800

Hi, actually i bought nokia 5800 from china but i have read somewhere that chinese nokia 5800 has not wi-fi system, is it true, but if its not, can anybody tell me how can i connect it on my set.
09-12-2008 12:22 AM
Unregistered
Nokia 5800

I have had mine for 3 days now, it's a good phone, has enough features to keep anyone busy. I was going to buy an N96 but when I saw the 5800 I changed my mine mind, it fits in my pocket without being uncomfortable. A few firmware quirks are evident when you use it, sometimes the full size QWERTY keyboard gets confused when typing out SMS's and gets stuck on caplock, other issue is that when watching youtube the picture is very pixellated, 3G or WIFI and surfing the net on it is not a great experience. Camera is not good unless under full light outdoor photos. Besides these few points I am happy with my purchase.
11-11-2008 09:39 AM
Unplugged
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Reading through some of the comments.. my inputs:
I don't think "Multi Touch" has been patented by apple, the first device to use it was Microsoft Surface which has been in development since 2001. The HTC Touch Diamond (which I own) has a bottom panel which supports multi touch (the circle can act like a ipod wheel on certain roms).
No but the hardware for multi touch is significantly more expensive and requires different driver support. Apple for instance use conductive screens that require actual touch and are more responsive ( in most situations ) as opposed to the resistive screen that nokia are using. A circular movement does not require multitouch as your finger is only ever in one place the screen simply tracks as you move. Multitouch is the ability to say touch two points on a photo and rotate pinch etc like surface and ipod touch/phone or have a keyboard style app which lets you play choords.

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As for texting etc. I hope Nokia will include a keypad like the one on the Diamond. It's a simple keypad which is the same as a button layout. EG:

1 2 3
4 5 6
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# 0 *

and you simply text as you would with buttons. I use predictive text so to type nokia i would press 66542 (or if not with T9, 66666553332)
If you mean a basic phone keypad layout which emulates one as such then yes. Have a look at the video that demonstrates the different methods of touch entry. They are Keypad, Qwerty, Full screen Qwerty and handwriting recognition.
10-11-2008 05:25 PM
Unregistered Reading through some of the comments.. my inputs:

I don't think "Multi Touch" has been patented by apple, the first device to use it was Microsoft Surface which has been in development since 2001. The HTC Touch Diamond (which I own) has a bottom panel which supports multi touch (the circle can act like a ipod wheel on certain roms).

As for texting etc. I hope Nokia will include a keypad like the one on the Diamond. It's a simple keypad which is the same as a button layout. EG:

1 2 3
4 5 6
7 8 9
# 0 *

and you simply text as you would with buttons. I use predictive text so to type nokia i would press 66542 (or if not with T9, 66666553332)
03-11-2008 09:39 AM
Rafe
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Also any news on whether S60 5th edition is finally bringing back Connection Groups ?
Yes you get destinations like you do in FP2 devices.

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There is no mention of hardware 3D accelerator, though there are two pre-installed 3D games (Global Race and Bounce). Are these games in software 3D?
Or maybe they just forgot to mention the presence of a hardware accelerator in 3D.
No 3D hardware.
03-11-2008 06:18 AM
Unregistered There is no mention of hardware 3D accelerator, though there are two pre-installed 3D games (Global Race and Bounce). Are these games in software 3D?
Or maybe they just forgot to mention the presence of a hardware accelerator in 3D.
23-10-2008 01:37 PM
RadicalSatDude
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Originally Posted by matchstick View Post
Hope Opera announce they'll be releasing a S60 5th edition beta of opera 9.5 for soon after the 5800s release or I won't be getting one of these for a while.
Maybe you'll get some answers there...

1. Opera for Series 60 Forum.
2. Opera Mini Forum.
23-10-2008 12:07 PM
matchstick I see from the draft manual that Nokia still aren't including features like Tab support in the browser.

Hope Opera announce they'll be releasing a S60 5th edition beta of opera 9.5 for soon after the 5800s release or I won't be getting one of these for a while.

Also any news on whether S60 5th edition is finally bringing back Connection Groups ?
23-10-2008 11:08 AM
RadicalSatDude
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Originally Posted by BlackN91 View Post
I don't know about any good reason either. I did beta-testing for PPTP client more then year ago, all works just fine there. Looks like that developer simply is not planning to distribute this software, my guess is that the probable reason is the amount of illegal software usage on unprotected S60 platform, so it is simply not profitable enough from development and consecutive support points of view.
Is there any way to get an offcial response from Nokia on this, or send this message across. Since they're already bundling a VPN client (Although a virtually useless one) they could just build on top of that or release different variants.

I'm really confused about why Nokia would release business class devices or apps that fall so short. It's not like we're talking about some usless kiddy accelerometer app, it's the almighty VPN!
23-10-2008 01:00 AM
BlackN91
RE: PPTP client for Nokia phones.

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Originally Posted by RadicalSatDude View Post
I’ve always been a Nokia user, but one of the one biggest holes which I’ve noticed in Nokia S60 devices is its VPN implementation.

Business users need proper VPN, even the crappy version 1 iPhone can do basic PPTP connections. Nokia can only do the horrible and expensive to implement 'IPsec'.

Eseries has been out for years, why isn’t Nokia covering PPTP and Open SSL/OpenVPN? It’s just softwares isn’t it?

This means a lot to those like me, who live in countries like UAE, China, & KSA where most of the cool sites/services like Last.FM, Flickr, SIP, Skype etc, have been blocked for years. This lack of proper VPN support hurts us financially, as much I like Nokia, they really suck at implementing proper VPN.
I'll echo that, its not even present on any E series devices. And I cannot think of any good reason why.
I don't know about any good reason either. I did beta-testing for PPTP client more then year ago, all works just fine there. Looks like that developer simply is not planning to distribute this software, my guess is that the probable reason is the amount of illegal software usage on unprotected S60 platform, so it is simply not profitable enough from development and consecutive support points of view.
21-10-2008 09:00 PM
Unplugged
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Originally Posted by RadicalSatDude View Post
Oh my fault, I was making the comparison to FM transmitters.
Ah I just found the front to my Bluetooth Radio and after 2 months of torture I can testify that bluetooth is a hell of a lot better than tape converters
21-10-2008 02:33 PM
RadicalSatDude
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That just made me spit coffee over my keyboard. If you think of that you might as well get a walkman their is a HUGE difference.
Oh my fault, I was making the comparison to FM transmitters.
21-10-2008 09:23 AM
bartmanekul
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Originally Posted by RadicalSatDude View Post
I’ve always been a Nokia user, but one of the one biggest holes which I’ve noticed in Nokia S60 devices is its VPN implementation.

Business users need proper VPN, even the crappy version 1 iPhone can do basic PPTP connections. Nokia can only do the horrible and expensive to implement 'IPsec'.

Eseries has been out for years, why isn’t Nokia covering PPTP and Open SSL/OpenVPN? It’s just softwares isn’t it?
I'll echo that, its not even present on any E series devices. And I cannot think of any good reason why.
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