| 16-08-2008 04:50 PM |
| Nikyzf |
Mac Discussion
I'll repeat my invitation in Part 1.
Rather than let this thread get involved with Macs and OS X in general, as opposed to just the Symbian aspects, why not join us at MacOSX-Support? We try to answer questions at all levels.
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| 15-08-2008 12:49 PM |
| Unregistered |
I got my macmini to access the internet via s60v3 device
I got the modem script and instructions from: http://www.taniwha.org.uk/
It was pretty easy to set up.
Not as easy as the WinXP setup but am up and running now nonetheless.
http://www.twitter.com/reyes
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| 15-08-2008 09:45 AM |
| Tzer2 |
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Oh, and there's no Linux series - you guys are putting words in my mouth now! It's a good idea, but my past experiments with Ubuntu have been disastrous. If a Linux user here wants to write such an article, I'm VERY happy to edit it and polish it for publication though....
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You should try Ubuntu nowadays, it's much easier to use and more stable. It's also got at least some measure of built-in S60 support now.
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| 14-08-2008 05:29 PM |
| sapporobaby |
@ashu,
I am the unregistered guy. I was too lazy to go back and sign in. 
Anyway, you can get MS Office for Mac, and I must say that it is a bit better than the Windows versions. MS has to write it to Mac standards only so they do not have to run through hoops to support different versions of Windows. There is also Open Office which is free. You might want to download this and try it first before you buy MS Office for Mac. If you need additional help drop me a PM with your email address or chat client address and I will set you up with what you need.
Cheers
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| 14-08-2008 08:47 AM |
| ashu |
Ok, Ok
Hey Steve,
Have gone through several articles of yours and I know you are not biased towards anything but ""Symbian""!
@unregistered,
Thank you for firming my mind up. The result of this two week of mac, symbian exploration has been a positive one for me. The procastination is out of the window and here I am, just out of an Apple store in my town holding the brochures and thumbing this post from the street from my soon to be married to mac nokia n 82!
Am sure it will work.
Thanks guys. this debate resulted in a $1000 buy. great..
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| 14-08-2008 08:26 AM |
| Unregistered |
@Steve,
Fair enough. Bias accusation withdrawn.
By the way, were you over on Appleinsder a few weeks to a month ago? Someone that sounds like you (the way you write) was posting over there defending Nokia against the "over the top" Apple Fanboys.
If you do manage to keep it, let me know and I can send you some good software links.
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| 14-08-2008 08:21 AM |
| slitchfield |
No, I *don't* have a bias against Mac. Really. I *love* this MacBook (it's gorgeous and very fast - and have been trying to get Apple PR to let me keep it!). And I *love* my iPod Touch (/iPhone/whatever).
But it's all down to the best tool for the job. As you'll see from parts 3 and 4 in this series....
Oh, and there's no Linux series - you guys are putting words in my mouth now! It's a good idea, but my past experiments with Ubuntu have been disastrous. If a Linux user here wants to write such an article, I'm VERY happy to edit it and polish it for publication though....
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| 14-08-2008 08:05 AM |
| Unregistered |
Bias
@ashu,
Forget about Steve and concentrate on your own opinion. Steve has a bias against Mac. You can almost see him looking for a reason for it to fail. I have been using Mac OS X and Nokia for quite a while and I can say simply that it works. No drama, not hesitation. It just does what it is supposed to do. You want to sync music (non DRM), it will do it. You want your contacts from teh Apple address book, on your phone? It will put them there, same with calendar. Hell, with my Mac, I even wrote a small script to do daily synchronizations at a certain time so I do not have to think about it. If you want viruses, maleware, and a security patck a week, stay with Windows. Not to say that Mac OS X is perfect, but it is the best OS out there right now. So, like I said, listen to yourself, not me nor Biased-Steve and go with what works for you.
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| 14-08-2008 04:38 AM |
| ashu |
@ tzer2
thanks tzer2.
I generally use my laptop and my phone, n 82 for following tasks. If these can be done on a mac os x, then i will be just fine.
1. Syncing pim. Very very imp.
2. Upload my vids and pics. Am getting jittery with all these talks of file corruption but will get more guidance on that once i come to that.
3. Installing various s60 apps which i download on my laptop and then install on my phone. Somehow not very comfortable with direct to phone mode.
4. Using my phone as a tethered modem for my laptop's internet connectivity.
5. Something not to do with phone, a general question. Am used to work on ms office for so long that have got used to them. Can i use ms office on mac?
I have got quickoffice 5 on my phone and often create documents on phone only. (silly me! But what to do, am a sales guy and always on the move. ). I often review my team's excel report on my phone. Will i be able to send to my mac? Very crucial. If it can not be done, then i will be done with mac!
Waiting eagerly for steve's 3 and 4. Would like to see, if his trial one is taken, would he fall in love with mac enough to buy one. That will be a very strong signal!!
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| 14-08-2008 03:15 AM |
| Unregistered |
Because Time Warner and a few other major labels will not allow Apple to publish DRM-free tracks.
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| 14-08-2008 12:35 AM |
| Tzer2 |
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With regard to the more expensive drm free comment this changed several months ago and now all iTunes tracks are the same price.
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If the DRM-free tracks are the same price, why do they still offer DRM versions?
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| 13-08-2008 06:54 PM |
| Mvan |
Yes Nokia media app does allow the iTunes plus (drm free) files to be synced to S60 phones. I think it modified the metadata as it's not standard. Ironic that the pc suite does not allow this, maybe nokia thinks that windows users only use media player or nokia music manager, both poor music apps. With regard to the more expensive drm free comment this changed several months ago and now all iTunes tracks are the same price. Another welcome article, looking forward to see the linux one and after that see if you can carry out the same operations over the air to so called cloud based sites.
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| 13-08-2008 04:27 PM |
| Tzer2 |
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I wonder what happens to songs bought from the iTunes Music Store....will the iTunes sync convert them (no way)? I'm pretty sure the Nokia one won't.
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If they're the cheaper DRMed tracks, Apple will never allow them to go onto non-Apple equipment. They're trying to use iTunes to encourage people to buy iPods and iPhones.
The more expensive DRM-free tracks should be fine on all devices though.
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| 13-08-2008 02:46 PM |
| davidmaxwaterma |
nice
I tried Mac OS X for a few years before ditching it for Linux (Ubuntu in my case) - I really couldn't get myself to like it (I already didn't like MS Windows) - but I do appreciate this series on using phones with OS X.
I wonder what happens to songs bought from the iTunes Music Store....will the iTunes sync convert them (no way)? I'm pretty sure the Nokia one won't.
In any case, I look forward to Steve's foray into the Linux world. I'm sure he'll have a lot more to criticize then 
Actually, it is surprising how much functionality is supported, at least in Ubuntu, though some functions require the obligatory hacking...maybe not long before it'll be usable, hopefully.
Max.
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| 13-08-2008 02:38 PM |
| Ratkat |
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You won't necessarily need Software Updater on future S60 models, the updates will go straight onto the phone over Wi-Fi or the phone network.
Music would still be a problem though as computers still tend to be better places to store tracks.
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On the 'Intel Mac' you can still run windows, either using the apple supplied bootcamp
http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/bootcamp.html
or a better way is to use a virtual machine like Vmware Fusion
http://www.vmware.com/products/fusion/
This allows you to install XP or Vista on you mac and then install programs like Nokia Software Update or Map Loader, and anything else you want, the Vmware Fusion allows you to have both Mac OSX and Windows running at the same time in near perfect unity with windows programs appearing on the Mac desktop and dock.
There is a great video showing a mac running windows through vmware fusion on youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIApJMzGzDQ
As a developer I have been using this format for nearly two years now with no problems, I will be interested to reads Steve's last two parts as I have yet to find a showstopper.
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