| 17-07-2008 12:33 AM |
| Unregistered |
ramzez said:
Number of Megapixels have nothing to do with picture quality. And c'mon the time takes for N95 making a picture is shocking. My 4 year old 4Mp Minolta outperforms Nokia in every aspect.
...that's why your minolta is a camera and your N95is a telephone...
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| 15-07-2008 09:04 AM |
| Jejoma |
That last post is spot on. Much as I would like the functions of the E90 for business use it is just too bulky. I also find a touch screen pretty vital for editing Word documents etc so my phone of choice is the Sony Ericsson P1i.
One bonus I have found is that the additional keys serve to create the impression I am using the phone for business or something serious when just playing games. This certainly applies when I get it out to kill time whilst shopping with my wife.
But back to the theme of the topic, how am I preceived. I suspect slightly geekily purely because I use my mobile for so much although others at work certainly use their mobiles for more than just SMS. So perhaps, Steve, you should have had a fourth heading on your chart for Geek!
As a final comment, I would agree that if someone takes out an iPhone at a meeting it is immediately perceived as an expensive toy and admired as such, not as a business tool.
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| 15-07-2008 04:56 AM |
| kflyer |
True, it is acceptable. But your mobile device isn't what your clients use to measure you. If you're proven in your work, no one would mind whether you use a Blackberry, a Nokia 1100 or an N95. I'd rather prefer to be a person like that. It only depends on your needs what you use the mobile for. For example, a good touch device from Nokia or probably the E75 will change this thinking. But presently, as a good executive doesn't have much time to spare with music, an E71, E66 should be fine. But I honestly don't think a good exec would prefer an E90, will be seen as too heavy.
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| 14-07-2008 11:50 PM |
| n14lad |
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And c'mon the time takes for N95 making a picture is shocking.
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If you've got firmware released in the past 8 months, it's as fast as any digital camera.
Granted, there's the option of focusing which takes a little longer than a cameraphone that can't focus at all, and red-eye reduction with flash also takes a little longer than a cameraphone without a flash.
But it's a damn sight quicker at making video than the iPhone, which unless you're doing freezeframe Wallace and Gromit style gif animations is, um, next to useless. But I'm sure the Apple Fanboys can tell me that "video is just something you don't need". Like I didn't need 3G. Or GPS. But now I do apparently. Amazing how quickly these things can change - anyone would think it was all smoke and mirrors!
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| 14-07-2008 11:24 PM |
| wampyre |
I do agree that people gets stereotyped after their phones.
Personally I find that I can mostly do the same on my N82 as on any other E-series devices when it comes to typing office documents or doing some own accounting on excel.
It will of course not look so nice as there is no querty keyboard there, but it works.
Taking this further I could have dragged out a Nokia SU-8W keyboard and then pressing away on that while looking on the screen of the N82.
There are indeed very much overlap, but the "lines" between the phones are advertising-based especially on how the manufacturers want us to see it.
What I do like about the N-series is in fact the multimedia properties, combined with the power of office working in one little package.
If I really need a big screen and more power I rather drag my laptop along with me.
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| 14-07-2008 04:16 PM |
| christexaport |
Steve, I loved this article. Excellent insight. Thank you.
Now let's discuss how I and other Nseries using Symbian Freaks perceive users of certain devices in certain places. I can go on forever about that!
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| 14-07-2008 01:58 PM |
| buster |
It's all very well saying that the E90 is a "passable music player", but if I'm not much mistaken, the music player app on the E90 is identical to that of the N-series devices; if that's the case, what's the difference? After all, many S60 devices do not have dedicated music controls. And anyway, if you use Bluetooth stereo headphones, which you can't yet do with an iPhone without using some kind of adapter, then you can avoid embarrassment by keeping you phone in your pocket... 
And to the guy who said that E90 owners use them as "look at me" symbols, I suspect that's not true in most cases. I got my E90 simply because I wanted a phone that could do the things that I wanted, had a QWERTY keyboard and was *not* WM powered. Am I pleased to have an E90? Yes. Do I like what it can do? Yes. Do I care what anyone else thinks? Couldn't give a s**t!
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| 14-07-2008 01:07 PM |
| Jaggz |
Of all the phones in recent years, I would say that the Nokia N95 has played least to stereotypes. Certainly here in the UK they seem to be used by just about anyone - from college students to tax advisors - the demographic is broad to say the least.
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| 14-07-2008 01:06 PM |
| bartmanekul |
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You have got to be joking, the 8800 costs a fortune!  |
They are nokias iphones, but even worse value for money.
Still, its not like your spoiled for choice if you want a nokia 
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| 14-07-2008 12:59 PM |
| doonit |
I work in the film industry and the beginning of last year I began working on a small, low budget movie. About the same time I had to send my laptop in for repairs. It was no big problem for me as I only need the laptop for working out my budgets with Excel, sending letters typed up with Word and generally sending and receiving emails. I made sure all my templates were loaded up with Quickoffice on my old E70 and went about my business as usual.
Other crew members saw me fiddling with my phone all the time and I was asked by a lot of people why I was always so busy with sms, or was I playing games? I felt I had to show everyone what I was actually doing and that it really was work. One or two people were impressed with what could be achieved on a little cell phone but most thought I was wasting my time and wrote it off as a "Loony-Toons" kind of show-off mission.
During that job I managed to drown my E70 in water and bought an E61 as a replacement. Immediately I found that people were taking what I was doing on the phone more seriously. The E61 (Nokiaberry) just looks more business-like than the E70 which, in closed mode, just looks like a regular phone. The funny thing about the E61 is that no-one ever asks me if I'm playing games or sending sms.
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| 14-07-2008 12:20 PM |
| Tzer2 |
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iPhone gives people ease of use, the price is ok, no more then Nokia 8800.
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You have got to be joking, the 8800 costs a fortune!
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| 14-07-2008 11:58 AM |
| slitchfield |
.... always fun to provoke debate on a Monday morning. 8-)
Personally, I couldn't care how I look or am perceived, but I thought Michael's observation was interesting and worth expanding....
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| 14-07-2008 11:45 AM |
| Unregistered |
This whole phone business is turning into a bizare circus. I am going to chuck away my N95 and get a Nokia 1208 and a Moleskine. I guarantee it won't adversely affect me in any way. On the contrary.
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| 14-07-2008 11:35 AM |
| BingoWasHisName |
Umm, so you are saying that I need a phone for meetings (to look professional) and a phone for the train (To not look an idiot).
So why have a 2 phone solution? In order to cover all the bases it would seem you need to look at a 3 box solution -
a Phone for looking professional and not an idiot
a generic MP3 player
an Asus Eee type Laptop (UMPC?) for the ability to send emails (as the dumb phone will not be comfortable enough to type and send emails)
Come on, if a phone is going to be the way you are perceived in meetings or on the train then
1. Don't get your phone out in the meeting, even turn it off or at least put it on vibrate! - you might be better respected and you will not be rude when you leave the room to answer it.
2. Don't get your phone out on the train so that no-one thinks you are an idiot listening to music on a huge brick.
At the end of the day, these iPhone people and those with E90's etc are using them a "look at me" symbols and I am sure not many could care a less about how they look as they think they look great to start with.
And in anycase look at the iPod everyone had theirs out at first, then stories spread about how they were a target for muggers looking for the earphones now almost everyone has theirs in their bag/pocket. The iPhone will go the same way, it will lose it's status and just become another consumer device stuffed into bags and pockets.
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| 14-07-2008 11:27 AM |
| ramzez |
Number of Megapixels have nothing to do with picture quality. And c'mon the time takes for N95 making a picture is shocking. My 4 year old 4Mp Minolta outperforms Nokia in every aspect.
iPhone gives people ease of use, the price is ok, no more then Nokia 8800.
But yes, there are stereotypes and for every device there is a market for surely, but i think people should be free to choose what they want and not be judged by others.
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