Topic Review (Newest First)
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| 11-06-2008 09:00 AM |
| 2more |
Scrolling should be changeable, or down down, up up only.
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| 10-06-2008 09:08 AM |
| Serious 60 |
Paradox of choice
viipottaja - have you not heard of the paradox of choice : Why more is less?
http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/93
Choice throughout can be pretty damaging to user experience. one of the nasty pig of phones I ever used was the SE m600i which had rocker keys, touchable screen and stylus. it covered all bases, but unfortunately the resulting user experience was akin to drinking vinyl paint and vomiting.
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| 10-06-2008 08:29 AM |
| Unregistered |
OK guys, but it's not an official video, right? It's just some fun project, isn't it?
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| 09-06-2008 09:12 PM |
| viipottaja |
Lol.. how many times does it have to be said: its a demo, and Nokia has said many times the UI will be usable with both fingers and stylus. Probably your choise throughout.
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| 09-06-2008 05:29 PM |
| Serious 60 |
What horrifict chimera is this
I feel sorry for the poor animal, part touch, part pen, part buttons. Nokia have shown before that these creatures are usually infertile and bear no further offspring. Lets hope the suffering ends soon.
That woman looks like such a knob when she stabs her handset repeatedly with the stylus, i think maybe it wasn't a working device.
Flat thing with stylus = anal factory floor manager with clipboard (not sexy).
I love how the goldfish is innovative. It's a fish in a bowl.
Man i'm depressed about mobile now.
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| 08-06-2008 06:26 PM |
| snoyt |
T-9 on a rotated mini-qwerty
No doubt a Nokia touch will see a mini-qwerty version. Current 'fashion' for smartdevices seems to be a touchscreen with mini-qwerty (HTC-Touch pro, Xperia X1, N810 etc...) . If they let the qwerty slide out to the right of the phone you might still use the center part of the qwerty keyboard righthanded when holding it in portrait mode (another smart use of the accellerator). It'd allow us to still use T9 with real buttons on the phone! For lefthanded people the accellerator will sense the phone is upside down ;-) Or perhaps a real lefthanded version might be sold!
I do hope Nokia reads this!
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| 08-06-2008 04:24 PM |
| Unregistered |
Another link please . ..
The video is not available. .. ..!!!
Please reload it ..... !!!
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| 08-06-2008 07:51 AM |
| bartmanekul |
Quote:
Originally Posted by ajck
(Macboy's a troll, why hasn't he had his account deleted yet?)
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He doesnt have an account, you dont need one to write in this section. He doesnt realise though that hes doing apple harm, since hes helping along the rabid fanboy image quite nicely. I'll just delete his posts when i see them, hes hurting no-one but his beloved apple.
I dont think anyone is going to win a touchscreen argument, unless they bring out a number of phones with different methods.
Look at the iphone, its obviously got a touch screen interface that very good, but theres still a huge amount of people that dont like it.
I dont want a touch screen, because it will mean getting rid of my keypad, which Im quicker on. And if you just have keypad and touch screen, it means the screen isnt as tough, and your still using keys some of the time anyway.
Whatever they bring out, they are not going to please everyone. Even though I wont be having a touchscreen phone for many years, Im still very interested to see what nokia come up with, and put it side by side to some of the best other touch screen devices.
The only way to find out which will have the better interface is to try them both yourself.
Because even if the person reviewing them is unbiased, they are quite possibly going to have different preferances to you. This is the same situation for any phone/feature, but for some reason a lot of people dont realise that with touchscreen.
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| 08-06-2008 02:23 AM |
| Hardeep1singh |
Apple = Hype and Hot Air
Nokia = Sales and Satisfaction
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| 07-06-2008 08:09 PM |
| Aurial |
I have to say that I'm not overly impressed with what I've seen of the new S60 interface. I'm sort of torn at the moment trying to decide what to get now that my contract is due an upgrade. I considered holding onto my N95 until April(ish) when the rumoured Touch UI NSeries should be hitting the shelves, but that's a long time to wait.
Apple are meant to be anouncing the 3G iPhone on Monday so I'll see what that has to offer. I think a lot of the turn off for people about the iPhone has been due to the lack of 3G/not too good camera and the hefty price for both the phone and the O2 exclusive contracts. Well apparently the new chipset they've included can support up to 5MP cameras and GPS so we'll see what they can come up with. They're also rumoured to be cutting the price and in some countries no longer taking a cut from the networks each month. With a few of these hurdles out of the way I think the only way is up for Apple.
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| 07-06-2008 03:37 PM |
| Unregistered |
It's a prototype, could change a lot between now and release.
I won't be wanting a touchscreen interface though, I'm glad Nokia continue to offer a variety of options.
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| 07-06-2008 02:00 PM |
| jah |
Nokia makes phones in all from factors for different input preferences. Apple only supports, at the moment, one form factor and one input method. Apple have therefore limited their market by this decision. I know a few people with iPhones and some have a Nokia as well! Like Blackberry users tend to have two phones as well. This is because form factor and real life usability (e.g. one handed) are important to real people with real functional needs, not just fashion fulfilment.
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| 07-06-2008 01:30 PM |
| snoyt |
pen versus fingers
Quote:
Originally Posted by krisse
Thirdly, there's nothing wrong with a stylus!
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It is in my book, if you use it for navigation or text entry. I prefere a mobile phone that I can use one handed and blind on touch too. One handed allows to keep hold of something which is very practical. Blind on touch means those functions are quick to access, at least things like accepting calls, redial, incoming message viewing, agenda/task/memo check etc... the same is valid for two hand mini-qwerty keyboards.
In my book one handed finger touching is a good compromis when trading a T9 pad for extra screensize. Few people realize the speed of a keypad for navigating:
Reconfiguring the Symbian Menu on my N95 I can actually start any of 144 applications within 3 button clicks. The menu has 12 positions mapped to the 12 keys of the T9-keypad. The menu button is one click, 12 folders at the first level (2nd click) x12 applications (3rd click) per folder allows for 144 different applications to be accessed by 3 button clicks and there are currently only 84 apps on my phone. Now once your motor memory has stored how to start a certain application blindly you can time that against getting your pen out, locating tiny fields to touch and navigate to start a application.
If Symbian applications and the native configuration menus would support this kind of navigation throughout the OS. Navigating would be a lot faster.
I'v owned and used Palm OS, UIQ and Windows Mobile 5 and mini-qwerty devices as my main mobile PIM/Phone thingy.
Quote:
Originally Posted by krisse
so you think people shouldn't be able to take notes or draw pictures on their phones? You want to dump those features completely?
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No that is not what I said. I said a pen is nice for writing, sketching and note taking. Not meaning crummy handwriting recognition. Still those functions are below par on my N800 and the Dell Axim X51v. The digitization is still too course and slow. In that quality I could just as well do without. They don't really add for better text input.
I say it again. Pen input sucks for menu/application navigation or text entry. We need nice big finger sized menu touchfields to navigate touchscreens!
Logical rant ended...
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| 07-06-2008 12:10 PM |
| ajck |
Well, as a mobile software developer and heavy S60 user (and being familiar with the iPhone), I'd say that looks like a great improvement on S60 (which is already good). I'm really looking forward to that handset, or something like it. The only difference with iPhone is multitouch. Quite how Apple got patents for that I'll never know when there was/is so much prior art about, but then the US patent office is as corrupt and useless as they come, so it's no real surprise. Still, it shouldn't be that difficult to engineer around it and still effectively give users multitouch. Also you could kind of offer it without being blatant about it, and let individual users activate it - then let Apple try and sue millions of separate people if they want.
Anyway, it's a good interface. I hope people realise a.) It's an alpha or beta, and b.) if you don't like the scroll direction I'm sure it can be reversed - it's known as software, remember? This isn't a mechanical object that's been engineered a certain way.
Krisse's right, Apple and iPhone pale into insignificance compared with Nokia handset sales (and always will). Let's not even bother arguing. Still, Apple have the occasional nice design idea that is worth stealing.
(Macboy's a troll, why hasn't he had his account deleted yet?)
Alex
phonething.com
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| 07-06-2008 10:14 AM |
| Unregistered |
bad
It's a seriously bad user interface. I agree that Nokia is completely clueless about user interface design.
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